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re: Bama fans....please be honest...no troll

Posted on 11/12/19 at 8:34 am to
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 11/12/19 at 8:34 am to
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why this is the worst defense of his tenure


You do realize we lost two key components to this defense before the season even started right? Or have you been living under a rock?
Posted by Palmetto08
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/12/19 at 8:37 am to
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It's been clear for a while that Saban is done. He's already been slipping on the recruiting trail which is why this is the worst defense of his tenure. That, and shitty coordinator hires like Golding and Sark.


Posted by TommyM
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Posted on 11/12/19 at 8:37 am to
And the depth is abysmal. That's recruiting, which is Saban's strength.

We need to be honest with ourselves. It's over. The fluke NC in 2017 pulled the wool over a lot of people's eyes.
Posted by MBclass83
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 11/12/19 at 8:38 am to
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Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
30264 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 8:38 am to
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Here are 2 hard facts you're not going to like.
1) With a healthy Tua we win that game.
2) If you're honest with yourself you know damn well you don't want a rematch. Tua will probably be 100% by PO time. That's why you guys are lobbying to keep us out.
3)Next year without Burrows LSU is back to losing 2-3 games per year. Bama will just reload and keep stomping arse as long as Saban is there.

Please point out one example of how Tuna's injured ankle hurt his performance.
Posted by biglego
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/12/19 at 8:40 am to
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Follow up - will you melt if he ends up as an OC at BAMA?


Absolutely
Posted by PT24-7
Member since Jul 2013
4368 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 8:41 am to
Not to side track the thread but bama had td plays of 80 (punt return), 65 (trick play to smith), and 85. Two of which will be nearly impossible to duplicate.

Posted by lovinLSU
lafayette
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/12/19 at 8:41 am to
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Here are 2 hard facts you're not going to like. 1) With a healthy Tua we win that game. 2) If you're honest with yourself you know damn well you don't want a rematch. Tua will probably be 100% by PO time. That's why you guys are lobbying to keep us out. So no, it doesn't feel different. Feels just like 2011 LSU, 2012 Tx A&M, or 2016 Ole Miss. If we a shot we're going to win the Natty this year.
...1st off, I hate to rain on your parade but 1) your team is not getting in but believe what you want , unicorns and whatever...2) After the game the other night Tua was practically walking on one leg... he won’t b ready this weekend against Miss. State and if he is one hard lick to that ankle and he might not ever play in the NFL ...3) even if Tua does heal up in the next few weeks, he will face Auburn on their home field, one if not the best defensive line in the country, see #2... I’m not trying to b a dick here but stating logic...it’s not going to be quite that easy...but hey, good luck with your assessment...
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20438 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 8:47 am to
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Dude will be an OC somewhere
Yeah, at LSU. Ensminger took the OC job as a favor to Coach O after the Matt Canada disaster. He begrudgingly took the job, but wanted to do Coach O a solid so as to not selfishly leave the program in a bind. You can watch his press conference that announces him as the Offensive Coordinator and pick up on that.

Joe Brady was really the unofficial OC intern this season. You can bet your arse that he will make upwards of $1.2 million after the season. There is talk in the local news here already of that.

What is so cool about the Joe Brady thing, is what I said was all along is a strength of Coach O. Coach O has been around with some pretty big gigs, the New Orleans Saints being one of them. The man has connections. When we hired Brady from the Saints, it was probably in the works with some phone calls that happened between O and Sean Payton. I like that Coach O said "frick you" to the college level, and went straight up professional when it comes to upgrading the offense.

Even as a Bama fan, you have to admit that was some good shite. On level of how Saban makes hires.
Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
33167 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 8:51 am to
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Follow up - will you melt if he ends up as an OC at BAMA?


You think a man of Joe Brady's intellect would abandon a state of the art ship (of his own design) for one
in a stall-induced tailspin?

One he, himself just shot down?

Y'all can squash that shite.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20438 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 8:53 am to
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After the game the other night Tua was practically walking on one leg.
That was played up big time. AKA, "the sophomore limp". Get beat in a game? Play it up to the audience as though the reason is that you're hurt and that's why.

If he was so hurt that he could barely walk on the leg, but puts up 400 yards passing...come on...

Jacob Hester said on the radio that he was on the field and watched Tua the entire game, with a slight limp. But as soon as the whistle blew, you would have sworn he broke a bone in his leg with the way he was limping.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/12/19 at 8:53 am to
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Does this loss feel different than the others over the years?


No, it feels more acceptable because 1. LSU is a playoff caliber team, and 2. We came out in the 2nd half fighting, and almost came back, as opposed to laying down like against Clemson.

I think a very large difference between the 2 teams last Saturday was that LSU had been battle-tested, and had already played in 3 big, prime-time games against teams with remotely similar talent.

Saturday was Alabama's first contest of the year against a team with talent even remotely close to ours, and it happened to be against a team with a great offense.

And it showed in the first half. Our guys played tight, and we made unforced errors on both sides of the ball, and Burrow made us pay, as he has done all season.

The second half we seemed more adjusted, and the shell shock factor wasn't there anymore, and we scored 28 points to LSU's 13 in the second half. It was a great game, but LSU has been playing in these games throughout the season, so they made the plays that they needed to win the game. That's just my take anyway.

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Does this feel like a talent rich team that’s always competed with one arm behind their back bc of their offensive philosophy has now broken free and is primed to challenge you on the field, the recruiting trail, etc?


Ehh, we'll see. Its not like LSU hasn't challenged us on the field consistently. Our games are usually close, and this one was no different. And LSU has always challenged us on the recruiting trail.

I guess the big question is how long is Brady going to stay an assistant at LSU? Burrow won't be there next year. How good is Miles Brennan? CEH might go pro. How many WRs are yall losing?

Brady with Burrow was the obvious reason for the stark turnaround from last year to this year.

Posted by TommyM
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Posted on 11/12/19 at 8:53 am to
The old Saban made those hires. Not anymore.

But frankly I refuse to believe that Brady is such a genius that he could turn a QB that got shut out at home in this game last year into Joe Montana. If Bama's D wasn't soft as frick we'd have won. That's coaching and recruiting. There's no excuse for losing to Ed fricking Orgeron in the biggest game of the year at home. None.
Posted by XbengalTiger
212 miles from Tiger Stadium
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 11/12/19 at 8:58 am to
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1) With a healthy Tua we win that game.
When has he been healthy? He was gimpy last year when it mattered and he is gimpy this year.

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2) If you're honest with yourself you know damn well you don't want a rematch.
If you are honest with yourself you know damn well A1abama does not deserve a rematch.

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3)Next year without Burrows LSU is back to losing 2-3 games per year. Bama will just reload and keep stomping arse as long as Saban is there.
Maybe you should look at the recruiting rankings for 2019 & 2020. What makes you think A1abama will reload and LSU will not? Both will have to replace starting QB's. LSU has a RSSO Elite 11 QB that has been learning behind Joe for 2 years on how to prepare to win. What does A1abama have?
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20438 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 9:01 am to
Nobody is saying that Brady is a genius. But he spent a little time with Sean Payton. And if you've watched the Saints play over the last 15 years, you'd notice that the offense is one of distributing the ball around to numerous receivers, running backs, fullbacks, and spreading the field open. Anybody who chooses a Saints receiver in fantasy can attest to that.

What do you see when you watch LSU this year? The same damn thing. It's the same offense, chief. It's not a genius thing, but it's hard to stop.

I don't give a shite how good of a coordinator you are, give me a professional vs a college coordinator any day of the week.

The NFL is an entirely different animal.

ETA: and if you want to talk about unusually soft defense, let's talk about LSU this year in the same boat. Bama is damn lucky that LSU has a soft defense too, or it would have been a blowout. And then all talk of a "possible playoff team" is out the fricking window.
This post was edited on 11/12/19 at 9:07 am
Posted by lovinLSU
lafayette
Member since Nov 2007
13878 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 9:03 am to
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If Bama's D wasn't soft as frick we'd have won.
...yea, yea, ... that’s what the other 8 teams said... what a sad assessment...man up bro...
Posted by TommyM
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2295 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 9:07 am to
Auburn kept it in check. If Nix didn't shite the bed they might have won, and that was in Tiger Stadium.

So dumbfrick high school coach Gus Malzhan and Ed "Rosy Finch Boyz" Orgeron are making better staff hires and recruiting better than Saban is now? It sure seems that way. We're fricked and the entire fanbase wants to whistle past the graveyard. Well, enjoy the new 3 Mikes era. You deserve it.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42172 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 9:18 am to
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Does this loss feel different than the others over the years? Does it feel like this wasn’t just a one off like the atm/ole miss type games where a team caught lightning in a bottle?


No, not for me anyway. We have lost to good teams before. Alabama will adjust, get better, recruit to fill needs, etc. and be right back in the hunt for the foreseeable future.

LSU has a new offensive philosophy, of course, and that presents new challenges. However, I feel like LSU has always had the talent to basically match Alabama and l believe Alabama will be better defensively in the future when they play LSU.

I give LSU tons of credit. Great team, great QB, great coaching staff, etc. I don't believe this was some "changing of the guard" loss, though.

Those are my honest, non-melt views.
This post was edited on 11/12/19 at 9:21 am
Posted by 337Tigah
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Posted on 11/12/19 at 9:19 am to
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When they are gone - and one definitely will be after this year, and there’s a good chance the other will be too


Guess you are out of the loop.
Posted by Cadello
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Member since Dec 2007
47794 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 9:20 am to
So there’s no way LSU ever gets a good QB again?
Alabama will never lose again?
Salty after day 4. Got it
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