re: Bama fans, are you dreading the impending retirement of Nick Saban?

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Bama fans, are you dreading the impending retirement of Nick Saban?

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Honestly, no.

I sure have enjoyed the last decade or so. It's been arguably the best era of Tide football. Only a deluded fool could think it could go on forever.
In the future, when we're back to winning the SEC and National Championship only occasionally, it'll be a pleasant, fond memory.

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You say, "cherry picked stats" like that somehow invalidates the point.

Previously you were prepared to discuss the period between Bryant and Saban, now that you see how horrible Alabama's home record was against LSU during that time, you want to pretend like it's somehow an invalid point.

For example, you can say, "Alabama won 5 of 9 championships from 2009 to 2017." While the dates may be "cherry picked" to make the point, the point is still a strong one; that's a lot of championships for that period of time. "Cherry pick(ing)" doesn't invalidate conclusions drawn, it only serves to limit the valid conclusions one can draw.

Let's go back to what I said, 'LSU doesn't do too badly against Alabama when they don't have a HOF coach on their sidelines.' Now can you see why I picked those particular cherries? From Bryant's last year at Alabama, to Saban's first, LSU had an even record against the Tide. Perhaps it'll happen again when Saban retires. While past results are no guarantee of future returns, it does show that it's possible.

But then there's Tennessee...

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You are cherry picking stats to provide a false narrative, not to provide proper context. You can do it all you want, but I'm not going to give a shite about it an will just dismiss it as dumb.

It's already been shown that LSU didn't have success after Bryant left until LSU hired Saban. Until Saban was hired, LSU only won 31% of it's game from the time Bryant left.

So, it's actually LSU that has only had success when they have a HOF coach on their sideline, or a coach following him.

Where 5 of the 6 wins came from before Saban came to LSU means absolutely nothing.

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You are cherry picking stats to provide a false narrative

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It's not a "false narrative", it's simply a factual statement. LSU didn't start beating Alabama until Bryant's last year - I mean at all from 1970 to 1981. From 1982 to 1988, LSU went 4-2-1 vs Bama. That's a BIG turnaround from a 10+ year losing streak. That also happens to coincide with my student years at LSU. While the next decade was only 2-9 wasn't good, it included a win over the defending champs. Saban went 4-1, and Miles started out 5-2, vs Bama.

The long and short of it is that period between Bryant and Saban at Bama was a HELL of a lot better than the 11-game losing streak during the first HOF coach, and the 8-game losing streak during the next HOF coach.

And there's nothing false about that "narrative". I've lived through both streaks.

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t's actually LSU that has only had success when they have a HOF coach on their sideline

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And here they are, ladies and gentlemen, LSU's lineup of Hall-of-Fame CFB coaches:

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Miles didn't build that!

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Then you gotta give more credit to Gerry Dinardo for Saban's wins.

LSU will continue to be the 6th greatest football program in SEC history.

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Do you move goal posts for a living or something?

You were the one who cited Bryant until Saban was hired, not me.

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Hired at Alabama.
Here's my first post in this thread:

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I don't know, from Bryant's last year through Saban's first year at Alabama, LSU was 13-12-1 against the Tide. LSU does just fine against Bama as long as they don't have a Hall-of-Famer on the sidelines....

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now here's some cherry picking from an Alabama fan:

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When it was pointed out that LSU had 6 wins in the period before Saban came to LSU

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I wasn't the one who wanted to restrict LSU's record to not involve Saban or Miles at LSU.

I stand by my original statement, LSU does a lot better against Alabama when Alabama doesn't have a HOF coach on their sidelines. 13-12-1 between Bryant's last year to Saban's first year at Alabama supports my position.

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Now you've moved it to 1982 to 1988. Which I guess you just figured nobody would noticed you've now included Bryant's final year, in which he lost? Because I guess 3-2-1, aka winning 50% of the time over a 6 year period isn't such a great recall of the "Glory Days"?

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Now you're just wandering off the reservation. Let's go back to my first post in the thread:

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from Bryant's last year through Saban's first year at Alabama

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And I see you've quoted "glory days". Can you please link to where i said those were "glory years"?

tia

You boys get so testy whenever an LSU fan makes a post with the word, "Saban" in it.

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if y'all didn't cheat so much

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"Will Wade at the forefront" of ncaa allegations

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NYCAuburn

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According to the NCAA, the schools with the most number of major infractions cases:

SMU, 10

Arizona State, 9

Oklahoma, 8

Wichita State, 8

Auburn, 7

Florida State, 7

Texas A&M, 7

University of California (Berkeley), 7

Georgia, 7

Memphis, 7

Minnesota, 7

Wisconsin, 7

West Virginia, 7

Baylor, 6

Kansas State, 6

Mississippi State, 6

UCLA, 6

Cincinnati, 6

Illinois, 6

Kansas, 6

Kentucky, 6

Miami (Florida), 6

Southern California, 6

Texas-Rio Grande Valley, 6

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Source: NCAA

them damnable facts

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allegations

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Bama could hire a guy like Les Miles and win 3 more titles.

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Holy shite at the LSU melt if that ever happened.

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Holy shite at the LSU melt if that ever happened.

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