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re: Bama fans, are you dreading the impending retirement of Nick Saban?
Posted on 5/29/19 at 1:59 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Posted on 5/29/19 at 1:59 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Stallings showed that Alabama doesn't have to fall very hard for LSU to catch them.
It was rare that I ever saw LSU as anything other than an easy win before Saban went to LSU.
Opening weekend of dove hunting and beating the shite outta LSU seemed like unspoken tradition really.
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Posted on 5/29/19 at 2:02 pm to 3down10
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Btw, 7 of LSU's 13 wins came after the year 2000 and were a result of Nick Saban.
So Saban beat Alabama 7 times in his 5 years at LSU?
Interesting, I only have Saban at 4-1 vs Alabama while at LSU.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 2:04 pm to The Shed
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When he does leave, there is only one direction for you to go. South!!
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Florida?
The Gulf?
Mobile?
Brazil?
Posted on 5/29/19 at 2:06 pm to pvilleguru
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Huh?
I said...
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STALLINGS SHOWED THAT ALABAMA DOESN'T HAVE TO FALL VERY HARD FOR LSU TO CATCH THEM.
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Stallings only lost once to...
Posted on 5/29/19 at 2:06 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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So Saban beat Alabama 7 times in his 5 years at LSU?
Interesting, I only have Saban at 4-1 vs Alabama while at LSU.
So you believe it was Les Miles that built the LSU program?
Posted on 5/29/19 at 2:08 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
You really wanting to hang your hat on 1-6? Be my guest.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 2:13 pm to 3down10
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It was rare that I ever saw LSU as anything other than an easy win before Saban went to LSU.
From 1984 through 1999 LSU was 6-3 vs Alabama in the state of Alabama. That includes knocking off the undefeated, defending national champs in their house in '93.
...with Curley Hallman coaching LSU.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 2:15 pm to The Shed
Everyone certainly dreads the off season because of dumb frick threads like this one.
YOU SUCK, GET BETTER
YOU SUCK, GET BETTER
Posted on 5/29/19 at 2:15 pm to pvilleguru
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You really wanting to hang your hat on 1-6?
No, why do you ask?
All I'm saying is that even with Curley Hallman coaching LSU, a national championship coach at Alabama can lose at home to the Tigers. It's just harder to beat HOF coaches at Alabama once they've established themselves. And Alabama has had a few of those in their history.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 2:19 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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From 1984 through 1999 LSU was 6-3 vs Alabama in the state of Alabama. That includes knocking off the undefeated, defending national champs in their house in '93.
...with Curley Hallman coaching LSU.
I'm unsure why cherry picked stats are supposed to mean something to me.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 2:20 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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All I'm saying is that even with Curley Hallman coaching LSU, a national championship coach at Alabama can lose at home to the Tigers
Anyone can lose to anyone at any time at any place.
This post was edited on 5/29/19 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 5/29/19 at 2:23 pm to The Shed
I hate to say it but little nickie ain't retiring anytime soon. His miserable nature ensures he lives to at least 90 and coaches til he's 80 just on pure hate for LSU.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 2:27 pm to CFFreak
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His miserable nature ensures he lives to at least 90 and coaches til he's 80 just on pure hate for LSU.
I hope he stays until the fanbase turns on him, but he won't. I really believe that 44-16 was a sign that he is finally losing a bit of an edge. I give him 2-3 more years.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 2:32 pm to 3down10
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From 1984 through 1999 LSU was 6-3 vs Alabama in the state of Alabama
Yes against Perkins, Curry, and DuBose not exactly anything to brag about. Even DuBose as bad and dumb as he is was 2-2 against you. Billy Curry? 2-1. Perkins was 1-2-1. Again, you were .500 against Mike DuBose and .333 against Righteous Brother Billy Curry. Nobody is going to say any of those guys were great coaches.
Stallings was 6-1 against LSU
This post was edited on 5/29/19 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 5/29/19 at 2:41 pm to 3down10
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So you believe it was Les Miles that built the LSU program?
No, Huey Long and Bernie Moore did.
In the first 4 years of the SEC, Alabama and LSU each had two championships, while Tulane had one.
When I was born, LSU was 16th nationally in win%.
When I started LSU in 1983, LSU was 13th.
When I graduated LSU in 1990, LSU was 11th.
When Saban took over in 2000, LSU was 16th.
When Saban left after 2004, LSU was 16th.
When Miles left in 2016, LSU was 12th.
Nick Saban isn't even a blip on the LSU historical record radar.
BTW, when I graduated, LSU had winning records over all the current members of the SEC except Alabama and Tennessee. Since then, UF is the only other team to get the edge over LSU.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 2:54 pm to 3down10
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I'm unsure why cherry picked stats are supposed to mean something to me.
You say, "cherry picked stats" like that somehow invalidates the point.
Previously you were prepared to discuss the period between Bryant and Saban, now that you see how horrible Alabama's home record was against LSU during that time, you want to pretend like it's somehow an invalid point.
For example, you can say, "Alabama won 5 of 9 championships from 2009 to 2017." While the dates may be "cherry picked" to make the point, the point is still a strong one; that's a lot of championships for that period of time. "Cherry pick(ing)" doesn't invalidate conclusions drawn, it only serves to limit the valid conclusions one can draw.
Let's go back to what I said, 'LSU doesn't do too badly against Alabama when they don't have a HOF coach on their sidelines.' Now can you see why I picked those particular cherries? From Bryant's last year at Alabama, to Saban's first, LSU had an even record against the Tide. Perhaps it'll happen again when Saban retires. While past results are no guarantee of future returns, it does show that it's possible.
But then there's Tennessee...
This post was edited on 5/29/19 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 5/29/19 at 3:00 pm to pvilleguru
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Anyone can lose to anyone at any time at any place.
And Curley Hallman was the man to prove that aphorism - both ways.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 3:00 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
I am Paul Diezel is in there somewhere. However you make a very good point, the top (great) LSU coaches do not stay at LSU very long so are not even blips.
LSU is a decent program, but it is closer to Georgia's overall program than Alabama's.
LSU is a decent program, but it is closer to Georgia's overall program than Alabama's.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 3:05 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Stallings showed that Alabama doesn't have to fall very hard for LSU to catch them.
LOL- No Alabama jsut has to lose one of the greatest coaches of all time, and go on sanctions......
Even then, LSU did not catch Alabama. They broke even for a few years, (in the 1980's), but even after Coach Bryant, it took LSU 18 years to beat Alabama in Baton Rouge.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 3:17 pm to TideFaninFl
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LSU is a decent program, but it is closer to Georgia's overall program than Alabama's.
No doubt, I've never stated otherwise. In fact, LSU and Georgia's programs are VERY close in terms of history, although Georgia got a little later start and was overshadowed by Tech for a while. LSU, OTOH, put their foot firmly on Tulane's neck and squeezed the life out of them rather quickly.
Curiously, LSU has never had a losing record in Athens, and still maintains a slight head-to-head advantage.
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