re: Auburn was 68-35 under Gus Malzahn

Posted by WG_Dawg

Member since Jun 2004

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Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:36 pm to TideSaint

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He literally had the lead in the national championship game with fewer than 30 seconds in the game.

which, as mentioned, has nothing to do with 7 years later after that. My opinion of gus at his firing in 2020 is obviously different than it was after year 1. This isn't rocket science.

Posted by FlyDownTheField83

Auburn AL

Member since Dec 2021

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Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:45 pm to RollTide1987

While you are making some reasonable observations it is notable that you are an Alabama fan.

Here are some statistics for you:

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Auburn fan posts on this thread - 10 - 26.3%
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Interesting that Gumps have their team in the CFP, but cannot stop thinking about Auburn.

Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw

In The Ham

Member since Nov 2017

13136 posts

Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:47 pm to FlyDownTheField83

Good one Shug

You could be an LSU fan as well.

Honk if you're in the portal

Posted by GoGators1995

Member since Jan 2023

7050 posts

Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:49 pm to RollTide4547

And over your head that went.

Posted by TideSaint

Hill Country

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Posted on 12/30/25 at 3:21 pm to WG_Dawg

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which, as mentioned, has nothing to do with 7 years later after that. My opinion of gus at his firing in 2020 is obviously different than it was after year 1. This isn't rocket science.

If Kerryon Johnson hadn't gotten injured in 2017 they would've whipped Georgia's arse again in the SEC Championship Game.

I'm glad it happened because it directly led to another national championship for Alabama, but he proved capable of putting together another contender under the right conditions.

Posted by Pettifogger

I don't really care, Margaret

Member since Feb 2012

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Posted on 12/30/25 at 3:28 pm to TROJANFORCEONE

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Auburn thinks it’s the coaches that are the problem. These coaches were winning before Auburn. Legacy QB ran away, Sumrall said oh hell naw. The problem is Tim Apple and his demands. Cohen is incompetent and he does whatever Tim says.

Tim Cook isn't materially invested in anything to do with Auburn football. I wish he were.

Malzahn needed to go. If Auburn makes a mundane hire after Gus we're probably in much better shape today, even if that hire is long gone. Instead, we hired a guy who thought he could just MWC the SEC and didn't need to do the recruiting song and dance. Then we hired Hugh, who was personable and good at spending NIL money but was clearly lost a year in.

I agree Auburn needs to be patient, but Harsin was leading us down a road of extreme talent deficiency, you have to pull the plug there. And offensive genius Hugh Freeze couldn't put an offense on the field with a hefty NIL haul against lowly UK. The guy was zapped, he made the decision for us. It showed up in subsequent weeks when Auburn easily put up a more formidable O with a first time play caller.

I *think* our fan base will be patient with Golesh if he shows even modest trending in the right direction. Going 7-5 with an enjoyable offense will buy him plenty of goodwill, I think, despite our reputation.

Posted by WG_Dawg

Member since Jun 2004

89938 posts

Posted on 12/30/25 at 3:38 pm to TideSaint

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If Kerryon Johnson hadn't gotten injured in 2017

bama fan in a nutshell! It's not enough to make injury excuses for your own team, now you're making them for others as well lol. We reshuffled the OL between those two games, and placed more of an emphasis on downfield passing in the second matchup. We retooled the entire gameplan, and as I'm sure you know Kirby tends to do fairly well in same-season rematches.

But nah, none of that can possibly be true. Let's also recognize that the reason kerryon's shoulder was on it's last tendon is because gus has no load managmenet and ran him into the ground like a rented mule all season. That aint our fault.

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he proved capable of putting together another contender under the right conditions.

bro they lost 4 fricking games that year. And once again, which you don't seem to grasp...he was fired 3 whole seasons later. My point, whihc everyone but you apparently understands, is that when he was fired in 2020 it was evident that he was not going to be able to lead them to a title. Getting really close in year 1, and somewhat kinda close in year 5, doesn't make his firing in year 8 any less correct.

Posted by Quicksilver

Poker Room

Member since Jan 2013

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Posted on 12/30/25 at 3:46 pm to StringedInstruments

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Harsin was almost decent, but he was such an arrogant piece of shite who hated black southern athletes that he should have been nixed from consideration.

What does this mean?

Posted by Woodrow Wilson

Member since Feb 2014

378 posts

Posted on 12/30/25 at 4:15 pm to RollTide1987

It's sad that the ability of 19-22 year old football players determine the self-esteem and self-worth of bama fans. Bama football has held back progress in the state since its success is more important than improving, per-capita income, infant mortality, literacy, public education or any other quality of life factor to the bama football zealots. When a football program controls a university it is no longer a university in the truest sense of the word.

Posted by TS1926

Alabama

Member since Jan 2020

7959 posts

Posted on 12/30/25 at 4:29 pm to Hawgleg

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Didnt Malzhan have them in the Natty game and barely lost to Oregon? No?

FSU. Gus was the OC for Gene Chezik when AU beat Oregon for the title. Gus was head coach when AU lost to FSU for the title.

Posted by TideSaint

Hill Country

Member since Sep 2008

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Posted on 12/30/25 at 4:32 pm to WG_Dawg

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bama fan in a nutshell! It's not enough to make injury excuses for your own team

LINK

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UGA- playing our backup QB in literally his first start.

Losing the SEC Offensive Player of the Year who had 230 total yards in a complete dismantling of Georgia just a few weeks prior definitely didn't hurt. Not one bit.

This post was edited on 12/30/25 at 4:48 pm

Posted by StringedInstruments

Member since Oct 2013

20736 posts

Posted on 12/30/25 at 4:49 pm to Quicksilver

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What does this mean?

Harsin didn’t show up to recruiting events at local high schools and neglected to recruit some local prospects because he preferred the kind of “well spoken” kids he was getting at Boise St. Former players also said that Harsin had little desire to interact with black players from the South on the team. He absolutely fricked our recruiting for a few years.

Posted by DeathByTossDive225

Baton Rouge

Member since Sep 2019

7593 posts

Posted on 12/30/25 at 4:57 pm to AUTubaHerd

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Auburn’s problem is that they hired two historic flameout coaches in a row.

They hired a car salesman televangelist with hooker baggage who left his last SEC gig in ignominy.

I would’ve had to opt out for a bit, and that’s coming from someone whose school hired Ed Orgeron.

Posted by Shocco

Member since Nov 2015

2414 posts

Posted on 12/30/25 at 5:15 pm to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw

Bet auburn would take Malzahn back in a minute if they could trade their current coach, "even money".

Posted by Stidham8

Member since Aug 2018

9944 posts

Posted on 12/30/25 at 5:19 pm to wareaglepete

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You are a complete dumbass if you believe any of this. Could you imagine Auburn with a few more years of Harsin recruiting? Give Freeze another shot to bring in a QB? Are you really fricking stupid?

Get back with me when we’re 4-8/5-7 next season and the impatient fanbase already has Golesh on the hot seat and he’s fired by 2028.