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re: Auburn is dead last in the SEC in recruiting
Posted on 12/3/25 at 4:28 pm to Lg
Posted on 12/3/25 at 4:28 pm to Lg
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This is the reason Nick Saban retired. He couldn't COACH them anymore due to being overpaid prima donnas.
And it made me just think of something. Take Golesh at USF and his success. Now think of the caliber of player he could recruit to USF. Probably not the same caliber that he can at a major university, like Auburn. But the players he could recruit and coach are very happy to just be playing football. The players that schools like Alabama, Auburn, LSU recruit all know they are top notch players and therefore don't feel as fortunate as the players at a USF or Tulane. They feel the coach is lucky to have them and he will do whatever they ask him to do to keep them.
My how college football has screwed itself.
Yes, and it's why only a few right now have the credibility (Saban, Kirby, etc.) to navigate that over the long term. They can still tell guys to do it their way or get lost, with the carrot being the NFL and the stick being obscurity. But, obviously the portal weakened the stick.
I think Golesh is actually going to be a decent shot at balancing that for us. But contrast it with a guy like Harsin, who was used to MW kids who would run through walls and bring their lunch pail and so forth. I genuinely think he thought he could be effective in the SEC with that, and in some ways I wish he was right.
But you can't give a pep talk to a kid making 2m in NIL who was told he'd be a football god at 14 yet can barely read. It's nearly impossible. These coaches have to be NFL coaches in a sense, but they're trying to be all-business with overgrown children with money.
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Posted on 12/3/25 at 4:28 pm to Stidham8
At least yall aren’t penn state
Posted on 12/3/25 at 4:48 pm to Finkle is Einhorn
quote:so much so that we fired the only HC who had beaten Bama more than twice since Saban got there
Are you just finding out that Auburn only cares about one game a year? The iron bowl. That’s it
This post was edited on 12/3/25 at 4:51 pm
Posted on 12/3/25 at 4:57 pm to Stidham8
STFU you big pussy
Posted on 12/3/25 at 5:01 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Yes StfU Stidham.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 5:42 pm to RelentlessTide
Auburn, it could be worse.
You could be Penn State.
You could be Penn State.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 5:44 pm to Stidham8
I remember the excuses back in the summer... how Auburn was the only team doing it right and August 1 would produce an explosion of talent. Do you remember? I remember
Posted on 12/3/25 at 7:09 pm to Pettifogger
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This is the reason Nick Saban retired. He couldn't COACH them anymore due to being overpaid prima donnas.
I think this will work itself out - over time. It will require a major paradigm shift in college athletics.
Said really bluntly by Will Stein today at the presser - if the first thing a recruit wants to talk about is money ? Move on.
Look - you can't put together a good football team with no money ... and you never could. But you can't just walk out and buy a good football team either. Just ask Jimbo Fischer.
Personally ... I think the first team that tones down the massive dollar amounts for high school recruits, and instead funnels the cash towards retention of proven starters and contributors wins. Partially because THAT approach will encourage transfers that can actually upgrade your existing talent.
I'd love to see what happens with a "bonus" style NIL deal. Based upon plays started maybe ... like some of the NFL language for rookie contract incentives.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 7:16 pm to Stidham8
Auburn has a booster problem and it’s not because of money. They meddle too much and was reported by a national media member why Lane Kiffin didn’t take the Auburn job when Freze was hired.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 7:28 pm to MykTide
It isn't Auburn new HC fault. He needs more time to recruit better players. 
Posted on 12/4/25 at 10:23 am to labamafan
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Auburn has a booster problem and it’s not because of money. They meddle too much and was reported by a national media member why Lane Kiffin didn’t take the Auburn job when Freze was hired.
Uh, Kiffin himself confirmed that he was heading to Auburn before his family intervened. It clearly didn't have much to do with booster meddling.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 10:30 am to Stidham8
Not dead last any longer
Our recruiting will only get better and better
Our recruiting will only get better and better
Posted on 12/4/25 at 11:14 am to Stidham8
Here's my take from what little I got from my Sumrall source. Sumrall would of taken the Auburn job but Florida made the better offer. It was explained to me that there are those at Auburn that "Believe in Auburn and Love it" so much that they will never give up control. A new coach to them is an outsider and so they will never give total control to that outisder.
So, Auburn had some conditions and I don't know what they all were.
Florida on the other hand, is willing to give full control to Jon Sumrall. He and Urban had a long telephone conversation where Jon outlined his vision of what him coaching the gators would look like and Urban was like, it's your team.
Instead of like Auburn saying, "here's what we expect from you", Florida was like "what do you expect from us", this is what lead to Dave Caldwell coming on as GM. Sumrall wanted more time to coach and Florida is making that possible.
That's it. Simple.
So, Auburn had some conditions and I don't know what they all were.
Florida on the other hand, is willing to give full control to Jon Sumrall. He and Urban had a long telephone conversation where Jon outlined his vision of what him coaching the gators would look like and Urban was like, it's your team.
Instead of like Auburn saying, "here's what we expect from you", Florida was like "what do you expect from us", this is what lead to Dave Caldwell coming on as GM. Sumrall wanted more time to coach and Florida is making that possible.
That's it. Simple.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 11:17 am to Pastor Mike
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I remember the excuses back in the summer... how Auburn was the only team doing it right and August 1 would produce an explosion of talent. Do you remember? I remember
Oh I remember. The excuses were as laughable then as they are now. Auburn fans are the kings of lowering expectations and pretending it is perfectly normal.
Almost all of the Auburn fans on the team message board have convinced themselves that forfeiting an entire recruiting class is perfectly fine.
They’ll be the first ones to blame Golesh in 2028 when he’s sucking wind with a terrible junior class that the boosters handed him.
This post was edited on 12/4/25 at 11:18 am
Posted on 12/4/25 at 11:19 am to TrueLefty
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It isn't Auburn new HC fault. He needs more time to recruit better players.
Agreed. It’s our cheap boosters fault.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 11:21 am to Stidham8
You have a good equestrian program, so that’s a plus.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 11:21 am to labamafan
The crap about Auburn having a booster / trustee problem is a myth and complete BS. Bama and Florida are much worse. Sumrall was lied to by urban and others. It all worked out for best… Sumrall at UF and Golesh at AU.
This post was edited on 12/4/25 at 11:22 am
Posted on 12/4/25 at 11:27 am to George Dickel
I believe Lane stirred the pot
Sumrall said he had been speaking with Lane extensively
He poisoned the well but it worked out best for us
Golesh is more of what we need at this moment in time
Sumrall said he had been speaking with Lane extensively
He poisoned the well but it worked out best for us
Golesh is more of what we need at this moment in time
Posted on 12/4/25 at 11:29 am to Stidham8
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Oh I remember. The excuses were as laughable then as they are now. Auburn fans are the kings of lowering expectations and pretending it is perfectly normal.
Almost all of the Auburn fans on the team message board have convinced themselves that forfeiting an entire recruiting class is perfectly fine.
They’ll be the first ones to blame Golesh in 2028 when he’s sucking wind with a terrible junior class that the boosters handed him.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 11:44 am to Stidham8
quote:just like Ole Miss boosters are blaming Kiff in 2025 for the terrible junior class that the boosters handed him three years ago (12th in the SEC, ahead of only Arky & Vandy)
They’ll be the first ones to blame Golesh in 2028 when he’s sucking wind with a terrible junior class that the boosters handed him.
This post was edited on 12/4/25 at 11:45 am
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