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re: Auburn fan entitlement is what makes the potential Gus firing so interesting
Posted on 10/18/18 at 3:14 pm to Rhino5
Posted on 10/18/18 at 3:14 pm to Rhino5
quote:Wasn't the entire point of the contract that Gus wanted more security in his position since a sizable portion of the AU fan base (urged on by the media) wants him shite canned every year?
He's also choosing to purposely leave out the fact that a sizable portion of our fanbase wanted Gus fired last year and even 2016.
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 3:16 pm to GlossuRabban
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Completely fricking wrong. He's owed $16 mil in 30 days and the other $16 over 5 years. He loses to Ole Miss he's probably gone.
There's no way you believe this.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 3:23 pm to cardboardboxer
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What, you want me to link to every Auburn fan on here who has assured me that they have the ability to pay Gus's buyout and that its an option on the table?
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they are so used to their AD having the patience of a five year old with coaches that the concept of having a season where an embattled coach has to prove themselves against the odds isn't even something they are willing to consider.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 3:24 pm to GlossuRabban
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It's more than this year. It's a trend that started last year. It's his inconsistency and he seemingly is not willing to do anything to change. Players will begin trasferring out (already have), coaches will start leaving and recruits will start decommitting.
Supposedly Gus has nobody in his corner...not boosters, players, coaches or fans. The only one still supporting him is the new president who made the deal without much input. And his job is in jeopardy as well.
You extended him and made him a top 5 paid coach in the country LAST YEAR.
I predict Auburn loses big 6 status due to this contract.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 3:24 pm to Rhino5
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Which is why I keep saying I'm skeptical. And why I disagree about the entitlement statement. If revenues and attendance keep up, as well as donations from the large donors, then I think he stays, regardless of "feelings."
You are being completely reasonable about this and I am not trying to pin the entitlement on you personally.
But in this very thread we have Auburn fans acting like the buyout is a minor speed bump and I am crazy to doubt that it can be just be dealt with.
Of course the a $27 million or whatever buyout yall face next year is still a big deal. No matter what decision is made these are are very big figures, much much bigger than SEC buyouts we have seen before.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 3:27 pm to cardboardboxer
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But in this very thread we have Auburn fans acting like the buyout is a minor speed bump and I am crazy to doubt that it can be just be dealt with.
It's not minor at all, and I've really only seen a couple of people blow it off.
Most AU fans 3 days ago were very much "we just have to live with it."
This recent "something might actually go down" thing was prompted by a couple Auburn beat writers, not some obliviousness to reality by fans.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 3:29 pm to GlossuRabban
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Why should Auburn pay $7 million for a subpar coach when they could have one for $3 million.
That is not the scenario at hand. It's 7.5 mill for a subpar coach, or 10.5 - 11mill for a subpar coach. Just bc the guy in the visor changes doesn't eliminate the money going out the door.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 3:31 pm to Pettifogger
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But is it really?
Yes it really is. The fact that Auburn got lucky with a meh hire like Chiz or a cheap hire like Gus in the past deson't mean that it isn't a risky move.
And at some level its not just about coaches. $32 million can buy a lot of facilities. Maybe the smartest move is riding out Gus for a while, spending that buyout money on the program rather than Gus's crazy wife, and be in a better position when Saban retires.
Frankly there are no easy answers as far as I am concerned for Auburn, which is why I find it so confusing that firing Gus is seen as this slam dunk way to move forward.
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I understand your position about waiting 2 years and then throwing bigger money at a more established guy, but that's not without risk. Surefire hires don't grow on trees.
Agreed.
But when the next guy fails as a fanbase its better to know that you tried you best and it wasn't good enough vs "we are wasting years of our lives on this cheap coach because Gus backed us into a corner."
Posted on 10/18/18 at 3:37 pm to Pettifogger
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It's not minor at all, and I've really only seen a couple of people blow it off.
Most AU fans 3 days ago were very much "we just have to live with it."
Ok this is what I was going for.
Telling me "you are wrong, this guy here saying we got this is the exception not the rule. Most fans don't agree with him" is a completely valid answer to this thread.
I know the Rant has a bias built into it but that is the only frame of reference I can work with.
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This recent "something might actually go down" thing was prompted by a couple Auburn beat writers, not some obliviousness to reality by fans.
To that point: To me the fact that these beat writers even floated this idea and some people accepted it seems crazy to me.
I mean, the fricking beat writers aren't paying $15 million this year out of their pockets, but they have a LOT of perverse motivation to keep fans engaged so they keep getting their monthly recruiting subscriptions.
The way I see it the whole "beat writers say we have the money" is like when recruiting sites talk up recruits that suck or talk down players that just flipped their commitments to someone else. When Aggie beat writers try to blow that smoke up my arse I see it for what it is, why are so many Auburn fans willing to buy into these snake oil promises from the people most incentivized to lie about the situation?
Posted on 10/18/18 at 3:38 pm to Pettifogger
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Most AU fans 3 days ago were very much "we just have to live with it."
Exactly. The buyout talk is in every Auburn forum i check. The beat writers are also hinting to it, and it was reinforced by Finebaum. This all happened this week.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 3:41 pm to Nguyening
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There's no way you believe this.
Believe what? That's almost exactly what's being reported. Have you read the contract to dispute that?
Posted on 10/18/18 at 3:42 pm to cardboardboxer
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To that point: To me the fact that these beat writers even floated this idea and some people accepted it seems crazy to me.
I mean, the fricking beat writers aren't paying $15 million this year out of their pockets, but they have a LOT of perverse motivation to keep fans engaged so they keep getting their monthly recruiting subscriptions.
The way I see it the whole "beat writers say we have the money" is like when recruiting sites talk up recruits that suck or talk down players that just flipped their commitments to someone else. When Aggie beat writers try to blow that smoke up my arse I see it for what it is, why are so many Auburn fans willing to buy into these snake oil promises from the people most incentivized to lie about the situation?
I mean, I'm sure most Auburn people recognize it could be all rumors and clickbait
But some of these people are paid by Auburn fans for information, and they have to balance sensationalism with accountability in a way Finebaum or other media folks don't have to
I think most of us would say "yeah, we're suspicious about the rumors too" while also saying "uhhh the smoke keeps building up so now we're starting to look to see if there's actually a fire"
We're bored as shite dude. Option A is the same rerun we've seen for 5 years 2-3 more times. Option B is ridiculous drama and a new lease on life. Which do you think is going to draw more interest this week?
This post was edited on 10/18/18 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 10/18/18 at 3:43 pm to Nguyening
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You extended him and made him a top 5 paid coach in the country LAST YEAR
I didn't do shite. Blame the retard in the presiden't office and the retard that's currently working in Gainesville.
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I predict Auburn loses big 6 status due to this contract.
You aren't even worthy of discussing the Big 6
Posted on 10/18/18 at 3:44 pm to AU_251
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AU_251
You keep trying to call me out in a thread FULL of one of your own basically saying I am crazy to think that Auburn won't pay the buyout.
I am sorry that you didn't like my tone in my OP, but I think its clear at this point I do have a point.
The question is whether fans like GlossuRabban are on the fringes or if that is the general consensus.
Because when I lurk on the Aubbie forums I see a lot of GlossuRabban-style confidence and not a lot of Rhino5-style being skeptical. But again I know the internet has a bias.
So tell me straight: what do most Aubbies think? Do most accept he is back next year almost no matter what?
If so then feel free to tell me and I will shut the frick up about this.
Otherwise I am going to keep poking fans with the opinion that GlossuRabban has to figure out why his perspective on how this sport works is completely different than most experienced SEC fan bases.
When Florida fans talked the same shite last year I wrote it off as them being ignorant. But I hold Auburn fans in a higher regard, hence this thread calling yall out.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 3:47 pm to cardboardboxer
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When Florida fans talked the same shite last year I wrote it off as them being ignorant.
Were they ignorant? How is McElwain doing this year in Gainesville?
Where there is smoke, there is fire. NOBODY believed we'd fire Chizik either until we did.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 3:49 pm to Pettifogger
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I think most of us would say "yeah, we're suspicious about the rumors too" while also saying "uhhh the smoke keeps building up so now we're starting to look to see if there's actually a fire"
Yeah that makes sense. I get WANTING to believe. Many Aggies ate up the narrative in 2015 that Sumlin was a drunk and that would get us from under that contract.
I didn't, but many did. Because it was an easy way out and humans love an easy way out.
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We're bored as shite dude. Option A is the same rerun we've seen for 5 years 2-3 more times. Option B is ridiculous drama and a new lease on life. Which do you think is going to draw more interest this week?
Spending other people's money is almost always fun, and frankly I am the last guy to tell fans to not have their fun.
I just wanted to see if what I was seeing on the Rant was some sort of consensus, but you make it clear its just wishful thinking of bored people. That I can understand.
And frankly I learned something about yall today, and I re-enforced why a few key Auburn posters like yourself are some of my favorite posters on the Rant.
So thank you for your time setting me straight today, and I look forward to taking my medicine when A&M does something stupid with a contract and yall are looking to rub that in my face.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 3:54 pm to GlossuRabban
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Were they ignorant?
frick yeah they were.
Their idea of how buyouts work, or what most programs have to deal with is still completely delusional. They got off that one time on a technicality but it doesn't make them right, it makes them lucky that shark fricker lied AFTER they were ready to fire him.
I lost so much respect for Florida fans last year when they clearly showed they have no idea how this college football thingy works or what most programs have to go through to get rid of a coach.
And frankly if Mullen doesn't work out for them, and they are looking to can him next year or some stupid shite like that, if I alive and breathing I will be on here telling them that THEY are fricked and THEY have to put up with shitter's full for another year. I promise no double standards.
Because that is how it works the 99% of the time when you don't get to make a scandal out of nothing just because you want a guy gone.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 3:55 pm to GlossuRabban
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You aren't even worthy of discussing the Big 6
Texas A&M vs Auburn
That whole page will be maroon by the time you guys get out from under this malzahn debacle.
Couldn't happen to a better fanbase. If you'd have asked me last year what team was most in danger of losing big 6 status I definitely would have said UT, but auburn is teetering on death penalty level suicide.
This post was edited on 10/18/18 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 10/18/18 at 3:55 pm to cardboardboxer
Gus rumors are my life preserver right now
don't take them
not yet
don't take them
not yet
Posted on 10/18/18 at 3:58 pm to Nguyening
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Couldn't happen to a better fanbase. If you'd have asked me last year what team was most in danger of losing big 6 status I definitely would have said UT, but auburn is teetering on death penalty level suicide.
Your ignorance of the Big 6 only reinforces the fact that you will never be there.
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