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Posted on 10/18/15 at 9:18 pm to Lakeboy7
quote:42% receive a commission upon graduation, rising above 50% when you are nclude off-campus commissioning.
the actual ROTC component (the guys that actually commission) is a fraction of the corps, the rest are posers.
It Was much higher until the post Cold War military cuts of the past few decades. You cannot commission more officers than the military actually needs.
TAMU commissions more officers than any institution outside the three service academies. Each service academy commissions a bit fewer than 1000 per year. TAMU is about half that figure.
Most cadets start with the intent of taking a commission, but they get "culled" over the course of their time at TAMU. Some leave the Corps when it becomes clear that they will not be offerred a commission, but most remain in the Corps for the camaraderie and the friendships that they have made.
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Posted on 10/18/15 at 9:23 pm to AggieHank86
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It Was much higher until the post Cold War military cuts of the past few decades. You cannot commission more officers than the military actually needs.
This. I'm not a huge fan of the corps, but the fake army argument is idiotic.
Posted on 10/18/15 at 9:41 pm to p_bubel
I really didn't expect a simple question to devolve into this thread, but I should have looked at the url.
Posted on 10/18/15 at 9:42 pm to AstroAg17
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ROTC =/ play army
Yes it does. Let it go.
Posted on 10/18/15 at 9:43 pm to EKG
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Why not just let it go?
Enjoy their music/drill, and move on?
The "pretend Army" stuff is tired, insulting, and something upon which you'll likely never agree to disagree.
These are the types of threads that ought to just be anchored.
They bring out nothing but angry posters who want to tear down others.
Nobody is angry.
Posted on 10/18/15 at 9:45 pm to FishFearMe
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General MacArthur expressed a high regard for the Aggies that served under him so I guess the "playing" worked.
Great. College is not the Army.
Posted on 10/18/15 at 9:54 pm to Lakeboy7
I was a nonreg in the Corps (aka a poser) for two years. When we invaded Iraq, I enlisted, did two tours as a USAF explosive ordnance disposal tech. Then I went back and finished my last two years as a civilian.
Many of my friends did the same, some (too many) aren't here. The Corps of Cadets taught me shite about brotherhood, management and getting tougher when life gets tough that you can't learn anywhere. Most of which was directed by the military officers from each unit's service branch.
Also, there's some bizarre traditions to be sure, but they were ours. Most of them go back as far as when A&M was a small all male military college organized primarily by a former Confederate general and Comanche fighter named Sul Ross. We have male Yell Leaders because that's a tradition that goes back to before we even had girls in attendance.
Everyone who goes into combat "plays army" at one point or another beforehand. Im not sure what qualifies you to judge either. You're probably a little pussy who would have been crying for his mommy in your first week in the Corps.
Many of my friends did the same, some (too many) aren't here. The Corps of Cadets taught me shite about brotherhood, management and getting tougher when life gets tough that you can't learn anywhere. Most of which was directed by the military officers from each unit's service branch.
Also, there's some bizarre traditions to be sure, but they were ours. Most of them go back as far as when A&M was a small all male military college organized primarily by a former Confederate general and Comanche fighter named Sul Ross. We have male Yell Leaders because that's a tradition that goes back to before we even had girls in attendance.
Everyone who goes into combat "plays army" at one point or another beforehand. Im not sure what qualifies you to judge either. You're probably a little pussy who would have been crying for his mommy in your first week in the Corps.
Posted on 10/18/15 at 9:56 pm to AggieHank86
So you are saying aTm commissions 500 a year? I find that hard to believe. I would say your numbers are closer to 200.
Posted on 10/18/15 at 9:57 pm to EODag
Air Force coming out hard...
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Posted on 10/18/15 at 9:59 pm to Silverback
Not everyone in the Air Force fixes jets.
Posted on 10/18/15 at 10:00 pm to EODag
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Everyone who goes into combat "plays army" at one point or another beforehand. Im not sure what qualifies you to judge either. You're probably a little pussy who would have been crying for his mommy in your first week in the Corps.
Well for people in the actual army, this "playing" you speak of is called training.
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I was a nonreg in the Corps (aka a poser) for two years. When we invaded Iraq, I enlisted, did two tours as a USAF explosive ordnance disposal tech. Then I went back and finished my last two years as a civilian.
Thats a tough job. I worked with AF EOD for many many months. Top notch awesome guys.
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The Corps of Cadets taught me shite about brotherhood, management and getting tougher when life gets tough that you can't learn anywhere. Most of which was directed by the military officers from each unit's service branch.
Again, that is fantastic. However, people in the actual army learn these same things, from the same kinds of people. Going to TAMU, VMI, or the service academies is a great way to learn this stuff. They are not, however, the same as being in the army.
Posted on 10/18/15 at 10:00 pm to EODag
And not everyone who carries a gun is a warfighter.
Posted on 10/18/15 at 10:03 pm to EKG
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Why not just let it go?
Enjoy their music/drill, and move on?
The "pretend Army" stuff is tired, insulting, and something upon which you'll likely never agree to disagree.
These are the types of threads that ought to just be anchored.
They bring out nothing but angry posters who want to tear down others.
This is what makes tRant, tRant. For better or for worse.
Posted on 10/18/15 at 10:05 pm to Silverback
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So you are saying aTm commissions 500 a year? I find that hard to believe. I would say your numbers are closer to 200.
500 would be more than the entire senior class, so yeah - probably closer to 200.
I was one of those who was commissioned, and though I didn't do anything to distinguish myself in the Army I've always been puzzled by the "fake army" comments. There wasn't anything fake about it.
Posted on 10/18/15 at 10:09 pm to shotcaller1
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This is what makes tRant, tRant. For better or for worse.
This has nothing to do with the rant. I literally know hundreds of people who would split thier sides laughing at the notion that attending TAMU as a cadet, or participating in ROTC or attending a service academy is the same as being in the Army.
The army is the army. Rotc is rotc, west point is west point. Deal with it. Nobody is threatening your manhood or accomplishments.
This post was edited on 10/18/15 at 10:10 pm
Posted on 10/18/15 at 10:12 pm to finestfirst79
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There wasn't anything fake about it.
Nobody said ROTC is fake.
Posted on 10/18/15 at 10:13 pm to Aggie Fishfinder
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the Corps of Cadets produces more officers than any school that isn't a service academy. They don't just "play" Army.
That's what the corps produces.
This post was edited on 10/18/15 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 10/18/15 at 10:15 pm to cyde
Posted on 10/18/15 at 10:16 pm to MrCarton
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Nobody said ROTC is fake.
My mistake. "play Army".
Don't get me wrong, I don't care what you think. The mindset just seems peculiar to me.
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