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re: aTm fans: Is your band comprised of corps of cadets members?
Posted on 10/19/15 at 12:32 am to CGSC Lobotomy
Posted on 10/19/15 at 12:32 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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Not taking it hard at all. It's too easy to destroy a flamer by simply referencing regulations and law.
If by destroying you mean that you completely ignore that playing army in college is not a requirement for a commission or joining the army, then yes, you destroyed me. You also did a fine job of attacking the wrong target. They must teach that in military science classess.
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Posted on 10/19/15 at 12:33 am to MrCarton
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You also did a fine job of attacking the wrong target. They must teach that in military science classess.
You've never heard of "fire for effect"?
Posted on 10/19/15 at 12:36 am to DWag215
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I didn't get anything out of the experience because I never participated. I mostly made fun of the goobers and insecure meatheads.
So in all actuality you have no idea what your speaking about? To be honest, I am shocked.
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Which really says something about you I think.
Perhaps. Prolly not though.
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Thanks for your service though.
Not really necessary. I got paid according to my contracts. I didn't even have to do 4 years of play army either.
ETA: I appreciate the kindness though.
This post was edited on 10/19/15 at 12:37 am
Posted on 10/19/15 at 12:37 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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You've never heard of "fire for effect"?
Indeed I have. Posted on 10/19/15 at 12:39 am to MrCarton
I have to say though, from my buddies who went Navy/Marine, they wished they didn't have to take NROTC classes their Freshman and Sophomore year.
From what I heard, those classes were harder than my physics and engineering courses (Nuclear physics, etc)
From what I heard, those classes were harder than my physics and engineering courses (Nuclear physics, etc)
Posted on 10/19/15 at 12:40 am to cyde
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Then we'll compromise and say the scope has changed
Well, it really hasn't changed. I originally asked you why the corps exists.
But it's all good regardless.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 12:40 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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From what I heard, those classes were harder than my physics and engineering courses (Nuclear physics, etc)
I've heard similar reports. Good on them for sticking it out.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 12:42 am to MrCarton
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So in all actuality you have no idea what your speaking about? To be honest, I am shocked.
Well the only thing I've affirmatively represented is the purpose for which the corps exists.
And you obviously don't need to participate to speak on that.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 12:49 am to DWag215
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Well the only thing I've affirmatively represented is the purpose for which the corps exists.
And you obviously don't need to participate to speak on that.
Well my friend I believe we have reached a logical conclusion to the conversation. Assuming you are willing, we can shake hands and part ways amiably. Twas a fun football game this weekend.
This post was edited on 10/19/15 at 12:51 am
Posted on 10/19/15 at 12:53 am to Silverback
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So you are saying aTm commissions 500 a year?
You're smarter than this.
Not all 2,500+ members of the Corps of Cadets are seniors at the same time. It's simply not possible.
For a typical uniformed student body, let's give a round number of 2,500 for the start of a school year.
Let's assume 850 freshmen, 640 sophomores (since the average freshman attrition rate is 25%), 550 juniors and 460 seniors. (not all sophomores make it to their junior and senior year: grades, discipline, and other issues contribute to attrition)
So let's use the 850 freshman number in a current year.
If you assume a 25% attrition rate, that number reduces to 640 by their sophomore year. If you assume that just over 10% fail out, quit, or are removed due to disciplinary issues, that number reduces to 550. At this point about 42% accept a commission, reducing the potential 2LT/ENS pool to 231 across all services.
Now here's the kicker: less than 60% graduate on time, reducing the numbers to about 115 between December and August of a fiscal year. When you factor in those who graduate in their 5th+ years, the delta brings that average to about 200 across all three commissioning windows at any one time.
The percentages fluctuate, of course, based upon DoD requirements and allowed numbers.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 12:54 am to DWag215
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Well the only thing I've affirmatively represented is the purpose for which the corps exists.
And you obviously don't need to participate to speak on that.
Which I corrected based on the actual wording of the hard copy document that dictates policy in the Corps itself.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 12:57 am to CGSC Lobotomy
Nobody cares aggy. Your corps is a fricking joke and the only people who can't see it are inbred aggys.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 1:06 am to CGSC Lobotomy
Our coach beats top ten teams on the road. Your coach embarrasses themselves on national tv at their "home" stadium.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 1:06 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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Which I corrected
While also affirming that it's "designed to produce officers."
This post was edited on 10/19/15 at 1:07 am
Posted on 10/19/15 at 2:14 am to Lemony Snicket
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Our coach beats top ten teams on the road
Coach 1:
Beat #1 Alabama in Tuscaloosa
Beat #3 Auburn in Auburn
Beat #5 Oklahoma State in Stillwater
Beat #9 South Carolina in Columbia
Beat #15 Mississippi State in Starkville
Coach 2:
Beat #10 Oklahoma on a neutral field
Care to try that again?
This post was edited on 10/19/15 at 2:45 am
Posted on 10/19/15 at 6:00 am to MrCarton
Not bad for a guy that was outnumbered 5 to 1.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 6:02 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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No one signs their contract until they're an "MS3", not even those at USMA.
This if FALSE! Cadets that are found eligible can contract earlier. The only restriction being that Cadets in the Simultaneous Membership program cannot contract until they are Sophomores.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 6:14 am to Silverback
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This if FALSE! Cadets that are found eligible can contract earlier. The only restriction being that Cadets in the Simultaneous Membership program cannot contract until they are Sophomores.
While they may be on scholarship as early as MS1, no one signs the official contract until MS3. Even those who were on scholarship as MS1s and MS2s had to re-sign when the rest of us did as MS3s.
The contract terms are set by the commissioning metric
OCS - 6 active, 2 reserve
USMA - 5 active, 3 reserve
Contract-Scholarship - 4 active, 4 reserve
Contract-nonscholarship - 3 active, 5 reserve
This post was edited on 10/19/15 at 6:17 am
Posted on 10/19/15 at 6:25 am to MrCarton
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Ill have to run that by my TAMU grad buddies who didn’t participate in the play army
I'm calling BS. Doubt very seriously that you have have any "TAMU grad buddies" that were members of the corps of cadets.
I was a poor kid that had to serve as an enlisted person during Vietnam before I could go to college. I wasn't a member of the corps but admire those who are. I've seen these people go to school and train and would not want to do that but I am glad that there are those who do so. I know that there are thousands of officers and yes enlisted troops on active duty today and as a veteran I salute them.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 6:34 am to CGSC Lobotomy
When contracting a scholarship Cadet signs a DA Form 597-3 and a DD Form 4. These are the only contacts signed during the tenure of an ROTC Cadet. The only difference for a non-scholarship Cadet is the form 597 is used. Simultaneous membership Cadets use their original enlistment DD-4 and either a DA Form 597-3 (scholarship) or 597 (Non-scholarship).
All of the facts I have provided can be found in Army Regulation 145-1 and Cadet Command Pamphlet 145-4.
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All of the facts I have provided can be found in Army Regulation 145-1 and Cadet Command Pamphlet 145-4.
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This post was edited on 10/19/15 at 6:55 am
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