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re: aTm fans: Is your band comprised of corps of cadets members?

Posted on 10/19/15 at 12:07 am to
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
11646 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 12:07 am to
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Well, I want my got-danged boots!!!


Still have mine. Can't get rid of them because damn, those boots fit perfectly. And because they were sorta expensive.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 12:08 am to
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And I'm waiting for you to explain your impulse to use a verb with a negative connotation to describe the purpose of the corps.



We have reached the root of your butthurt here. You think this is about TAMU. It isn't.

I don't give a damn what purpose the cadets have. They play, pretend, or simulate being in the army. Perhaps this role playing is great preparation. Perhaps it's a waste of time.

I assure you many men have done well without playing army in college. Many officers have been commissioned without cheering in unison at football games while wearing fancy boots.

Your butthurt showcases a deep insecurity that really isn't necessary. Like I said, I played army too. It was fun. We all benfit to varying degrees from our experiences and choices.
Posted by cyde
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Posted on 10/19/15 at 12:08 am to
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If your answer to why the corps exists really is "tradition,"

So yeah, you're intentionally being obtuse. It was a joke because I could tell I wasn't providing you with the answer you wanted to hear. Another thing I thought was pretty self-evident which obviously wasn't.
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I was simply giving you the benefit of the doubt that you weren't a hopeless moron.

Yeah, I've kind of been doing the same for you here, and it's not really been paying dividends.



Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
11646 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 12:10 am to
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or cow vulva courses.


I knew I wanted nothing to do with veterinary medicine while working for a vet in HS and witnessing a cow autopsy. That smell is still with me.
Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
7225 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 12:11 am to
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I assure you many men have done well without playing army in college. Many officers have been commissioned without cheering in unison at football games while wearing fancy boots.

We're getting closer here.

Are you just concerned that your lack of formal preparation suggests you're less of a soldier?

I think most any American would respect you all the same (formal preparation or not), so there's really no need to fret.
This post was edited on 10/19/15 at 12:12 am
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Posted on 10/19/15 at 12:13 am to
I took a dairy science class at LSU thinking an easy A.
Pffffttt
I had to drop it. Hard as balls!
Posted by cyde
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Posted on 10/19/15 at 12:14 am to
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I knew I wanted nothing to do with veterinary medicine while working for a vet in HS and witnessing a cow autopsy. That smell is still with me.

I can imagine, as much as I love animals.


inb4bestialityjokes.
Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
7225 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 12:15 am to
Don't know anything about your posting style, brother. All good.
This post was edited on 10/19/15 at 12:16 am
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 12:19 am to
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We're getting closer here.

Are you just concerned that your lack of formal preparation suggests you're less of a soldier?

I think most any American would respect you all the same (formal preparation or not), so there's really no need to fret.


I'm not a soldier. I didn't play one in college either. I feel pretty good about myself.

Oh and "formal preparation"...makes me laugh. Ill have to run that by my TAMU grad buddies who didn’t participate in the play army. Hell, ill run it by my buddies who did. Either way, guaranteed laughs.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80780 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 12:20 am to
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bullshite, the actual ROTC component (the guys that actually commission) is a fraction of the corps, the rest are posers.


Of course it's a fraction of the corps. Every ROTC program has congressionally mandated limits imposed on them as to how many commissions they're allowed to grant except for the service academies.

Even if every single cadet wanted to take a commission, there's a hard cap.
Posted by cyde
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Posted on 10/19/15 at 12:21 am to
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Don't know anything about your posting style, brother. All good.

Well, here's a good guideline for use in this thread. I'm mostly being serious, with some light-hearted ribbing interspersed.

I wasn't embellishing on or making light of A&M's history, but trying to relate what I know of it and compare how it used to be to how it is now and how the corps has changed and evolved along with it, going from a mandatory aspect of student life to an optional component when the school became coed in the mid-60s.

My point was that, as A&M evolved, the corps' entire paradigm changed.
Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
7225 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 12:22 am to
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I feel pretty good about myself.

You should feel good about yourself, man. I'm glad that you do.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80780 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 12:24 am to
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I am waiting for you to explain how the cadets are not playing army.


Well, every cadet has to pick an ROTC affiliation until deciding their junior year whether or not to receive a commission.

No one signs their contract until they're an "MS3", not even those at USMA.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 12:25 am to
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You should feel good about yourself, man. I'm glad that you do.


You too man. Don't take it too hard when people make jokes about young men playing army in riding boots. Like I said, it's what YOU get out of the experience. Just don't put too of your self worth into kids playing games between coordinated football cheers.
Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
7225 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 12:26 am to
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My point was that, as A&M evolved, the corps' entire paradigm changed.

I think everyone would agree that it has.

My only point is that it fundamentally exists for the same reason it originally did: to prepare members for military service. The relevant shift in paradigm (for purposes of this discussion) is observed in the body of the members, not the entity. It's still designed to produce military officers.
Posted by cyde
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Posted on 10/19/15 at 12:27 am to
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My only point is that it fundamentally exists for the same reason it originally did: to prepare members for military service. The relevant shift in paradigm (for purposes of this discussion) is observed in the body of the members, not the entity. It's still designed to produce military officers.

Then we'll compromise and say the scope has changed.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 12:28 am to
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Well, every cadet has to pick an ROTC affiliation until deciding their junior year whether or not to receive a commission.

No one signs their contract until they're an "MS3", not even those at USMA.


I don't dispute any of that. I've babysat enough cadets to understand the system. How or why cadets play army, before they actually join the army, isn't really the point.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80780 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 12:28 am to
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Don't take it too hard when people make jokes about young men playing army in riding boots.


Not taking it hard at all. It's too easy to destroy a flamer by simply referencing regulations and law.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80780 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 12:29 am to
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It's still designed to produce military officers.


That's actually not the stated mission.

While it may be designed to produce officers, the official charter according to The Standard is to "Produce leaders for our State and Nation".
Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
7225 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 12:32 am to
I didn't get anything out of the experience because I never participated. I mostly made fun of the goobers and insecure meatheads.

Which really says something about you I think.

Thanks for your service though.
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