re: Arkansas Football: too good to have lowly Mizzou as a rival?

Georgia refuses to play us tho. We still need to go play Kentucky at their place.

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We still need to go play Kentucky at their place.

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Correct. Yall get your arse in gear and come play a game in Lexington already. It's absurd it's taken this long.

Bear in mind those teams were also very good depending on the era in which they played in.

Rice yes Rice had one of the largest stadiums and was a solid program in the SWC until both Arkansas and Texas began to rise. Before that it was TCU and SMU. Tulsa was and is a very solid football program. They gave Arkansas and other bigger programs plenty of tough games during the regular seasons.


Rice


1961 7-4 L 7-33 Kansas Bluebonnet Bowl.

1960 7-4 L 6-14 Ole Miss Sugar Bowl.

1957 SWC champ 7-4 L 7-20 Navy Cotton Bowl.

1953 SWC champ 9-2 W 28-6 Alabama Cotton Bowl.

1949 SWC champ 10-1 W 27-13 North Carolina Cotton Bowl.

1946 SWC champ 9-2 W 8-0 Tennessee Orange Bowl.

1937 SWC champ 6-3-2 W 28-14 Colorado Cotton Bowl.

1934 SWC champ 9-1-1.


Baylor


1992 7-5 W 20-15 Arizona Sun Bowl.

1991 8-4 L 0-24 Indiana Copper Bowl.

1986 9-3 W 21-9 Colorado Bluebonnet Bowl.

1985 9-3 W 21-7 LSU Liberty Bowl.

1983 7-4-1 L 14-24 Oklahoma State Bluebonnet Bowl.

1980 SWC Champs 10-2 L 2-30 Alabama Cotton Bowl.

1979 8-4 W 24-18 Clemson Peach Bowl.

1974 SWC Champs 8-4 L 21-40 Penn State Cotton Bowl.

1963 8-3 Bluebonnet Bowl Champs W 14-7 LSU.

1961 6-5 Gotham Bowl Champs W 24-9 Utah State.

1960 8-3 L 12-13 Florida Gator Bowl.

1956 Sugar Bowl Champs 9-2 W 13-7 Tennessee.

1954 7-4 L 33-13 Auburn Gator Bowl.

1951 8-2-1 L 14-17 Georgia Tech Orange Bowl.

1949 8-2 AP No. 20

1922 SWC Champs 8-3.

1924 SWC Champs 7-2-1.


TCU


1929 SWC Champs 9-0-1

1932 SWC Champs 10-0-1

1935 National champion 12-1 W 3-2 LSU Sugar Bowl.

1936 9-2-2 SWC Champs W 16-6 Marquette Cotton Bowl.

1938 national champion 11-0 W 15-7 Carnegie Tech Sugar Bowl.

1941 7-3-1 L 26-40 Georgia Orange Bowl.

1944 SWC Champs 7-3-1 L 0-34 Oklahoma A&M Cotton Bowl.

1947 4-5-2 L 9-13 Ole Miss Delta Bowl.

1951 SWC Champs L 7-20 Kentucky Cotton Bowl.

1955 9-2 SWC Champs L 13-14 Ole Miss Cotton Bowl.

1956 8-3 W 28-27 Syracuse Cotton Bowl.

1958 SWC Champs 8-2-1 T 0-0 Air Force Cotton Bowl.

1959 SWC Champs 8-3 L 7-23 Clemson Bluebonnet Bowl.


SMU


1923 SWC Champs 9-0.

1924 5-0-4 L 7-9 West Virginia Wesleyan Dixie Classic.

1925 SWC Champs 5-2-2.

1926 SWC Champs 8-0-1.

1931 SWC Champs 9-1-1.

1935 national champion 12-1 L 0-7 Stanford Rose Bowl.

1940 SWC co-champs 8-1-1.

1947 SWC Champs 9-0-2 T 13-13 Penn State Cotton Bowl.

1948 SWC Champs 9-1-1 W 21-13 Oregon Cotton Bowl.

1966 SWC Champs 8-3 L 9-24 Georgia Cotton Bowl.

1968 8-3 W 28-27 Oklahoma Bluebonnet Bowl.

1980 8-4 L 45-46 BYU Holiday Bowl.

1981 10-1 SWC Champs.

1982 Co-national Champ 11-0-1 W 7-3 Pittsburgh Cotton Bowl.

1983 10-2 L 7-28 Alabama Sun Bowl.

1984 SWC co-champ 10-2 W 27-20 ND Aloha Bowl.


Tulsa


1916 OIC Champs 10-0.

1919 OIC Champs 8-0-1.

1920 OIC Champs 10-0-1.

1922 OIC co-Champ 8-0.

1925 OIC Champs 6-2.

1929 Big Four Champ 6-3-1.

1930 Big Four Champ 7-2.

1932 Big Four Champ 7-1-1.

1935 MVC co-Champ 3-6-1.

1936 MVC co-Champ 5-2-2.

1937 MVC Champ 6-2-2.

1938 MVC Champ 4-5-1.

1940 MVC Champ 7-3.

1941 MVC Champ 8-2 W 6-0 Texas Tech Sun Bowl.

1942 MVC Champ 10-1 L 7-14 Tennessee Sugar Bowl.

1943 MVC Champ 6-1-1 L 18-20 Georgia Tech Sugar Bowl.

1944 8-2 W 26-12 Georgia Tech Orange Bowl.

1945 8-3 L 6-20 Georgia Oil Bowl.

1946 MVC Champ 9-1.

1947 MVC Champ 5-5.

1950 MVC Champ 9-1-1.

1951 MVC Champ 9-2.

1952 8-2-1 L 13-14 Florida Gator Bowl.

1962 MVC Champ 5-5.

1964 9-2 W 14-7 Ole Miss Bluebonnet Bowl.

1965 MVC Champ 8-3 L 6-27 Tennessee Bluebonnet Bowl.

1966 MVC co-Champ 6-4.

1973 MVC Champ 6-5.

1974 MVC Champ 8-3.

1975 MVC Champ 7-4.

1976 MVC co-Champ 7-4-1 L 16-20 McNeese State Independence Bowl.

1980 MVC Champ 8-3.

1981 MVC co-Champ 6-5.

1982 MVC Champ 10-1.

1983 MVC Champ 8-3.

1984 MVC Champ 6-5.

1985 MVC Champ 6-5.

1989 6-6 L 24-27 Oregon Independence Bowl.

1991 10-2 W 28-17 San Diego State Freedom Bowl.

Shelter insurance.


Trashy.

I think Arkansas would rather play Okstate OOC every year than Mizzou with how close Tulsa and Stillwater are to Fayetteville. The Greeks travel to both campuses for Row Week and Calf Fry, there’s a good number of alum in Dallas too for both sides.

Older fans back in the day and still to this day hate Ole Miss.

The series was so heated and for a brief time more than Texas. They had to cancel the series for 20 years.

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I think Arkansas would rather play Okstate OOC every year than Mizzou with how close Tulsa and Stillwater are to Fayetteville. The Greeks travel to both campuses for Row Week and Calf Fry, there’s a good number of alum in Dallas too for both sides.

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We’ve played y’all 46 times and I’d rather you be in the conference than them since you are better overall sports wise.

I don’t feel like we are “too good” to have “lowly” Mizzou as a rival. Y’all have performed way better than I expected you would entering the conference and have kicked out arse since then. It’s just that I don’t get excited about playing y’all. It’s not meant as an insult to you or your program in any fashion. I think a rival has to be a team or fanbase that you dislike or one that you have a long history competing against, which adds excitement to the matchup. Our game just doesn’t have that, even though they are trying to pump up the Battleline Rivalry and have a Bazzle trophy. It just seems contrived, simple as that. Most Razorback fans recognize that y’all have had our number lately but don’t really see ourselves as being superior even though thats what you are trying to twist this into. We just don’t give a shite about playing Mizzou. Maybe we should make it more of a focus so we could win a couple.

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By the way if outperforming us and beating us head to head more times than not since 2012 is the standard for a rivalry, then we’d be rivals with about every P5 school in the country

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I fully expect the series to be relatively close over the long run, both teams have been bad to terrible since at least 2015. Y'all seem like you made the first good coaching hire between the schools since Pinkel left Mizzou, so Arkansas might get some licks in if Drink can't figure it out here in the next season or two.

I think it would be a good rivalry because:

(1) Proximity and cultural similarity: the states obviously border each other, but also share the Ozarks. A lot of kids in the southern part of Missouri end up heading to Arkansas for school because it's a lot closer to home than Mizzou. There is a natural rivalry to form there. Mizzou is the third closest P5 campus to Arkansas and the closest SEC campus by nearly 100 miles.

(2) Almost mirror image SEC football programs. See my OP, since joining the SEC, Mizzou and Arkansas are the most similar schools in terms of SEC win/losses. The schools also have similar success (or perhaps difficulties) recruiting, and have similar ceilings and floors: both can field strong teams, but neither can get over the hump and win an SEC championship.

(3) Someone to fill the void and we are the right fit for each other. Mizzou's true rival is obviously Kansas, but I don't see that game ever coming back on an annual basis, unfortunately. Nebraska is our other historic rival, but much like LSU or Texas to Arkansas, those games are usually a bit one-sided and the all-time series does not reflect a competitive rivalry. Arkansas does have a competitive rivalry with A&M, but those Aggies are so fixated on everything burnt orange, that y'all will always be a second thought to them. That's only going to get worse with Texas entering the conference.

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Arkansas only wants to be “true” rivals with SEC blue bloods or tu. It is what it is. They don’t even consider A&M a rival. We are under LSU, tu, and like 3 other teams.

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Nobody wants you either.