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re: Are the days of the undefeated national champions over?

Posted on 1/4/25 at 3:59 am to
Posted by theballguy
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Posted on 1/4/25 at 3:59 am to
Penn State is not a Blue Blood but this point has been overlooked.
Posted by Fearless and True
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Posted on 1/4/25 at 7:03 am to
YES
Posted by coldbeerfan
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Posted on 1/4/25 at 7:22 am to
The only football powerhouse that has the capacity to go undefeated is, The Alabama Crimson Tide. Try to start coping now.
Posted by Wishbone85
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Posted on 1/4/25 at 7:29 am to
Posted by chadr07
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Posted on 1/4/25 at 7:38 am to
I love this excuse everytime. Tua didn’t look like he had a damn thing wrong with him during that game until he knew the game was over and decided to start limping like he was hurt lol

Tua didn’t look slow or off or anything. Bama fans were being butt hurt bitches about the game and trying to use Tua as an excuse as to why they lost. Get over it the better team won that game.
Posted by BevoBucks
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Posted on 1/4/25 at 7:48 am to
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it’s going to be extremely difficult for a team to go undefeated
On the flip side, the SEC had 8 teams win at least 9 games, 5 of which won 10+. That’s pretty good.
Posted by IvIerlot
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Posted on 1/4/25 at 8:00 am to
I like how you cut off at 1998. Very arbitrary.
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
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Posted on 1/4/25 at 8:47 am to
Don’t watch football, do you?

2019 LSU is literally the best team in CFB history.
Posted by pbro62
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Posted on 1/4/25 at 8:47 am to
No
Posted by InkStainedWretch
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Posted on 1/4/25 at 8:49 am to
Yes
Posted by Buckeye06
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Posted on 1/4/25 at 8:52 am to
I think it depends on if they expand the scholarship limit like they have been discussing.

One of the reasons OSU is playing so well is because they actively slowed their offense down all season. They huddled all year and played offense at the slowest pace of any of the 12 playoff teams. They actively were managing snaps in week 3.

I'm obviously well aware that OSU lost at home to Michigan, but they lost 2 games by a combined 4 points. The loss to Oregon was a weird game, and we all saw the Michigan game with the gameplan.

I think it may be true because you don't have to go undefeated anymore, but I think the top teams will still have the ability to do so
Posted by Sizzle_DAWG
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Posted on 1/4/25 at 8:53 am to
Nah. The University of Saban no longer exists.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 1/4/25 at 8:54 am to
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2019 LSU is literally the best team in CFB history.


Based on what?

Because their defense didn’t even rank inside the Top 30 (8th in the SEC), and their offense had their records broken the very next year by a team that didn’t play Northwestern State or Utah State.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/4/25 at 8:55 am to
Most likely
Playing additional playoff games against parity driven bought rosters it will be very hard
Just surviving the sec will be hard enough
Posted by Jdillard343434
Greenville sc
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Posted on 1/4/25 at 9:02 am to
No I don't have a dog in the fight I think 2020 bama team is light years better they actually played defense
Posted by Opry
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Posted on 1/4/25 at 10:39 am to
quote:

2019 LSU is literally the best team in CFB history.
They barely beat Bama and struggled in games.
Posted by David Fellows
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Posted on 1/4/25 at 10:48 am to
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Are the days of the undefeated national champions over?


no
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/4/25 at 11:09 am to
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2019 LSU is literally the best team in CFB history.


Fun fact: 2019 LSU wasn't even #1 in the F+ rankings for that year alone, much less all time.

Tied with Alabama on the offense side for #1, but not even a top10 team defensively coming in all the way down @ #14.

2 sides of the ball. The GOAT is elite on offense AND defense.

This post was edited on 1/4/25 at 11:11 am
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 1/4/25 at 11:12 am to
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I think it depends on if they expand the scholarship limit like they have been discussing.

One of the reasons OSU is playing so well is because they actively slowed their offense down all season. They huddled all year and played offense at the slowest pace of any of the 12 playoff teams. They actively were managing snaps in week 3.
That's a good point.

I look at LSU, and wonder what they could have done with
a) a healthy Chris Hilton all season on offense
b) a healthy Harold Perkins all season on defense

Hilton is our deep threat. As y'all probably remember, he was out a long time, and when he first came back he jumped at the wrong time for the ball (A&M and Fla games) . Looked like an idiot and didn't help the team at all.
He settled in after awhile, and absolutely torched Oklahoma and Baylor at the end. Ran past corners like they were standing still. Showed good hands too, caught a couple while being interfered with.

Perkins is our linebacker/QB spy savant. Again, as you might recall, he hadn't been special recently, but he burst onto the scene by completely destroying Arkansas' mobile QB. He could have contained Milroe and Reed, at least in theory.

Just 2 guys who could have made a big difference for LSU, in the games they lost. Hilton could have added 10x points vs USC, making it a win. Perkins containing Reed makes the A&M game a win. Containing Milroe would throw him off his rhythm, and we see how Bama looks when Milroe is off- could have won that. Then the Fla game, I think a bit more pressure on Lagway and a better deep game and we win.

That's no slight on any of the teams that beat LSU, it just shows how managing your roster and minimizing injuries can change things.
Posted by Cool McCool
Member since Nov 2024
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Posted on 1/4/25 at 11:17 am to
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1999: Florida State 12-0
2000: Oklahoma 13-0
2001: Miami 12-0
2002: Ohio State 14-0
2004: USC 13-0
2005: Texas 13-0
2009: Alabama 14-0
2010: Auburn 14-0
2013: Florida State 13-0
2018: Clemson 15-0*
2019: LSU 15-0
2020: Alabama 12-0**
2022: Georgia 15-0
2023: Michigan 15-0

Tennessee 1998 was undefeated and the first BCS Champion.
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