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re: Are LSU fans just spoiled?
Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:49 am to JuiceTerry
Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:49 am to JuiceTerry
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They thought their run in the early 2000's was gonna be permanent. It didn't work out that way. Now they're good while other teams are great. They are frustrated.
Early 2000's? Really? Did you do that on purpose? Our run in case you didn't notice went significantly beyond Saban's tenure. What dope. 
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:50 am to Draconian Sanctions
Not true at all. He inherited guys like Rohan Davey, Josh Reed, Ryan Clark, Trev Faulk, Bradie James and Domanick Davis.
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Didn't y'all lose 5 or 6 games in Denardo's last year?
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Didn't y'all lose 5 or 6 games in Denardo's last year?
This post was edited on 11/11/13 at 8:52 am
Posted on 11/11/13 at 9:05 am to Roger Klarvin
It seems to be inevitable (neglecting 2011) that we will be an undisciplined team, and that lack of discipline will cost a game or two we have no business losing every year. It usually ruins our chances of winning a big game every year as well. I want a guy who has the potential of going undefeated, and I don't believe Les is that guy
Posted on 11/11/13 at 9:17 am to LSUsuperfresh
Let me preface this with saying that the Saban infatuation will never die at LSU with most fans. He left us and a lot of people never got over it when he went to Bama. That being said, with Miles I think most people are disappointed with 1/9 and that is what fuels this the last 2 years. But I compare Les Miles with Dale Brown. Everyone wanted Dale gone because he had Chris Jackson, Shaq and Stanley Roberts and didn't make it even to the Sweet 16. Eventually when Dale left, what happened to LSU in basketball? They pretty much fell off the face of the earth. Be careful what you wish for in Miles' departure. With the exception of a few games, (1/9 excluded) he wins the games he is supposed to win.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 9:27 am to statman34
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With the exception of a few games, (1/9 excluded) he wins the games he is supposed to win.
ole piss says hello.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 9:27 am to statman34
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1/9 excluded
Massive exclusion
Like I said earlier, this moment will hunt Miles forever until he wins a Natty. He will never live this down with a lot of fans until if/when he hoists a crystal football.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 9:28 am to LSUsuperfresh
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It seems to be inevitable (neglecting 2011) that we will be an undisciplined team, and that lack of discipline will cost a game or two we have no business losing every year. It usually ruins our chances of winning a big game every year as well. I want a guy who has the potential of going undefeated, and I don't believe Les is that guy
Agreed.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 9:29 am to Marco Esquandolas
I'm not spoiled. I'm just tired of seeing us make dumb mistakes (penalties, clock management, gameday management). Those things have been around since Miles got here, and they are a constant.
Honestly, after the loss to Bama this weekend, I'm more apathetic than anything. Yeah, it would have been great to win, but then it would have just pointed out once again that we habitually play to the level of our opponents, and that means playing below their level all too often (i.e. Ole Miss).
I'm in my late 30s and was speaking with someone last night that I have been going to games with since I was three. She feels the same way. Between the repeated mistakes and the money grab by LSU that has been going on since after Nick Saban got here, LSU is not the same. It's just not.
Winning 10 games annually when you have at least 12 to work with and your schedule includes the likes of Furman, North Texas, ULM, and Directional State is not a major accomplishment. Then, when we do have a quality OOC opponent, they are played on a neutral field, away from home.
Diehard fans have been priced out of the stadium, corporate types don't show up unless we are playing Alabama or another top school, and LSU's grand idea to pump crap music into the stadium at a level that destroys your eardrum make you look around and wonder why you are paying for any of it.
We won a national championship in 2003, before all of the money was "needed" to keep up with the Joneses. Now we are being told we need more money just to be competitive. That's absurd. And when $4 million is going to a coach who doesn't learn from his repeated mistakes, it's an issue. Don't get me wrong, he can't carry the ball into the endzone for JC Copeland, and I'm not putting anything like that on him, though others would say not finishing is a reflection on the leader.
Spoiled? No. Frustrated? Slightly. Don't care? Just about.
We've seen this before. This is Cholly Mac II from the losing to Bama issue, but Cholly Mac didn't lose because he was incompetent on so many occasions.
Additionally, we don't have the playmakers this year that we had last year. I can appreciate that. But I can't appreciate our defense being out of position and not knowing assignments when it is Week 11, and a tight end on the other team outrunning our entire secondary for a 50-plus TD. That can't happen.
Other than out-talenting almost everyone in 2011, we haven't had a special season with Miles here. We backed into a national championship in 2007 after losing to a decent Kentucky team and the Wildhog against Arkansas. Miles winning percentage is great, but it has been bolstered with a watered down non-conference schedule and frustrating wins that defy the level of competition.
Honestly, after the loss to Bama this weekend, I'm more apathetic than anything. Yeah, it would have been great to win, but then it would have just pointed out once again that we habitually play to the level of our opponents, and that means playing below their level all too often (i.e. Ole Miss).
I'm in my late 30s and was speaking with someone last night that I have been going to games with since I was three. She feels the same way. Between the repeated mistakes and the money grab by LSU that has been going on since after Nick Saban got here, LSU is not the same. It's just not.
Winning 10 games annually when you have at least 12 to work with and your schedule includes the likes of Furman, North Texas, ULM, and Directional State is not a major accomplishment. Then, when we do have a quality OOC opponent, they are played on a neutral field, away from home.
Diehard fans have been priced out of the stadium, corporate types don't show up unless we are playing Alabama or another top school, and LSU's grand idea to pump crap music into the stadium at a level that destroys your eardrum make you look around and wonder why you are paying for any of it.
We won a national championship in 2003, before all of the money was "needed" to keep up with the Joneses. Now we are being told we need more money just to be competitive. That's absurd. And when $4 million is going to a coach who doesn't learn from his repeated mistakes, it's an issue. Don't get me wrong, he can't carry the ball into the endzone for JC Copeland, and I'm not putting anything like that on him, though others would say not finishing is a reflection on the leader.
Spoiled? No. Frustrated? Slightly. Don't care? Just about.
We've seen this before. This is Cholly Mac II from the losing to Bama issue, but Cholly Mac didn't lose because he was incompetent on so many occasions.
Additionally, we don't have the playmakers this year that we had last year. I can appreciate that. But I can't appreciate our defense being out of position and not knowing assignments when it is Week 11, and a tight end on the other team outrunning our entire secondary for a 50-plus TD. That can't happen.
Other than out-talenting almost everyone in 2011, we haven't had a special season with Miles here. We backed into a national championship in 2007 after losing to a decent Kentucky team and the Wildhog against Arkansas. Miles winning percentage is great, but it has been bolstered with a watered down non-conference schedule and frustrating wins that defy the level of competition.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 9:31 am to LsuTigers80
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We are. But I think a lot of fans like myself are so sadden to see the 2011 not win a national title. Even though we got our arse kicked in the game. I just felt like that team deserved it threw their schedule. That 21-0 ruined college football for me for the past 2 years
Perfectly said.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 9:44 am to Neuromancer
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Schedule. Bama knows it. That is why they say dynasty but it doesn't feel like one.
There, there, little guy. It'll be alright.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 9:55 am to DawgsLife
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Look at the board right now and you will see LSU fans starting threads about how Texas A&M has not chance of winning this weekend.
Is this a joke??? I said the other day in a thread A&M by at least 17 (and I'm being conservative... taking my glasses off it could be the ugliest game of the year by far), and LSU may not beat Arkansas. Other LSU fans are saying pretty much the same if you look closer.
The big red flags for this year were: 1. TCU's scrub QB ran all over LSU's D, and 2. LSU could not beat a crippled OM team.
It's kind of surprising that Alabama and LSU were tied in the 3rd quarter.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 10:07 am to JuiceTerry
No great runs last forever. Everyone should know that. It's life.
Success is, always has been, and always will be fleeting.
I like Coach Miles and don't wish to have anyone else as our head coach. I am certain the program is not "dying"- and that we will recover from this "slump" envied by so many in due time.
Success is, always has been, and always will be fleeting.
I like Coach Miles and don't wish to have anyone else as our head coach. I am certain the program is not "dying"- and that we will recover from this "slump" envied by so many in due time.
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