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re: Are Alabama Fans Happy Dabo is Regressing? No More Heir to Throne...

Posted on 9/28/21 at 11:50 am to
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 9/28/21 at 11:50 am to
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Do you have a problem praising God really I praise God everyday ?? what is wrong with you


It's not his piety that's the problem, it's his sanctimonious approach to his Christianity.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26957 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 11:50 am to
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Jim Leonhard
Jason Candle
Matt Rhule (seems unlikely by the game)
Bill O'Brien

I like 'em from the Midwest.


Mal Moore's criteria, as stated in his press conference on January 4, 2007...

"When we began the process of hiring the head coach for the University of Alabama, I stated the express goal was to hire a coach with champion credentials.

That should still be the criteria when Saban retires, and even moreso.

What are those guys' championship credentials?
Posted by BamaWins15
Member since Sep 2015
4612 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 11:56 am to
No. He will still come. He realizes Clemson isn’t BAMA and the longer he stays the damaging it will be on his legacy.
Posted by DP4Tide
Member since Aug 2021
1113 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 11:59 am to
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and the longer he stays


The longer he stays the less his chances become to get the UA job....thank god !
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
5753 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 12:00 pm to
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Bill O'Brien


That would be a "no" please.
Posted by RT58
Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
3673 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 12:02 pm to
During our best years, 3 Coaches stood
Out. Bryant, Saban & Stallings. They
All won with at least 1 thing in common. They were businesslike no nonsense guys. I don't think Dabo would fit in. Not Knocking his style. It worked for his Players he recruited
There. Just don't think it'd work at
Bama.
Posted by thatthang
Member since Jan 2012
6770 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 12:03 pm to
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Mario would take the UA job at any point it was offered to him. His inlaws live in ATL and his wife and two boys spent alot of time there while in Ttown.

He is infatuated with the tradition and culture at UA.


Serious question: if he's completely sold on Alabama, why did he take a lateral-ish move to Oregon in 2017 and not try to stick around and get a coordinator position? I understand moving on from your dream school for the right opportunity elsewhere, but that didn't seem like a great move at the time...
Posted by RelentlessTide
Member since Feb 2020
2915 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 12:03 pm to
He won’t come to Bama. He’s a hero in Clemson, he’s won multiple NCs there, his son played at Clemson. He’s like Bobby Bowden and FSU - great situation.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26957 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 12:15 pm to
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Serious question: if he's completely sold on Alabama, why did he take a lateral-ish move to Oregon in 2017 and not try to stick around and get a coordinator position? I understand moving on from your dream school for the right opportunity elsewhere, but that didn't seem like a great move at the time...


One could say that it was a slight upgrade...he was co-OC right off the bat.
One could say it was an opportunity to expand his own personal recruiting footprint if he ever became a HC. The West Coast and South Florida. That's a pretty big footprint.

But going to work for Willie Taggart? That's the head-scratcher to me. Sure, after going 10-2 at USF the year before, Taggart's stock was rising at that time. But Willie Taggart instead of Nick Saban? I don't get that.
Posted by DP4Tide
Member since Aug 2021
1113 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 12:16 pm to
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and not try to stick around and get a coordinator position?


He felt like he had gone as far as he could at UA and would never be the play caller, bc he has never been one. Oregon offered him alot more money and told him he would be a HC candidate if something happened to Taggert.

the move has worked out well for him. See the $27m contract he just got
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
4307 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 12:30 pm to
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Still Dabo is a good coach and think he would have success at Bama if it were to happen. He has won two titles but done that playing in the ACC not in the murderers row that is the SEC West.

He’s also coaching at Clemson, not a blue blood.
Posted by coldbeerfan
Orange Beach RTR Alabama
Member since Oct 2015
814 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 12:33 pm to
The environment around the football program at Bama pre Saban was a shite show and only an a-hole could've straightened it out. He did. After Saban leaves, those that were told to stay the hell away from the football program will be waiting to feel important again. So it will take a bigger a-hole than Saban to steady the course of conference and national championships.

The question will be does that person exists. I don't know much but I damn sure know that it isn't awe shucks by golly Dabo.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26957 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 12:35 pm to
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He’s been at Clemson for 13 years


If you remove the Watson/Lawrence years...


Who signed Watson and Lawrence? It's not like he inherited those guys from Bowden.

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...he is a 2-3 loss a year HC in the ACC


Saban's losses in non-championship years:

08...2
10...3
13...2
14...2
16...1
18...1
19...2

I get that a lot of people don't like Dabo's personality. I don't either. I just don't care. What I care about is results. Only results. The argument is that his aww shucks persona won't play at Alabama. I don't buy that at all. Cristobal is a Cuban from south Florida. Sark is all West Coast and a recovering alcoholic. Kiffin is Joey Freshwater. All three have elements to their personalities that could turn off a segment of the fan base. The bottom line is winning championships. To do that, you have to be able to sell kids on being able to get them to the NFL, no matter what your personality type is, and Dabo Swinney has proven that he can do that.

He's achieved the closest thing to a dynasty next to Alabama. Is it in an easier conference than Alabama's? Sure. Did he do it in a traditionally inferior setting to Alabama's in terms of money, brand, facilities, etc? Also sure.

That's why Dabo has up until lately been my choice...because he has achieved what the other three serious names in this discussion haven't. But again, because I am strictly focused on results, he's no longer my favorite. This season is clearly a turd in his punchbowl. There is no excuse for his team's performance this year and the absolute shite show his offense has been at this point in his tenure.

So for me at this point, Dabo is no longer at the top of my list, and he goes back into the pool with the other three. As others have said, we have at least two or three years to decide. I think one of those four...Dabo, Cristobal, Kiffin, or Sark...will distance himself from the other three.

I think it will probably be Sark, but who knows?

Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26957 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 12:38 pm to
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So it will take a bigger a-hole than Saban to steady the course of conference and national championships.

The question will be does that person exists. I don't know much but I damn sure know that it isn't awe shucks by golly Dabo.


Oh, I'm not so sure about that at all. I thnk the aww shucks thing is just his schtick. I think Dabo is capable of being just as much of an a-hole as Saban.

For me, Dabo's biggest flaw is his difficulty in letting a play go. We've heard the sermon about playing the next play for 15 years. The incident about Dabo that stands out with me is the time a few years ago when the punter decided to fake, didn't make it, the opponent goes down and scores, and after that TD Dabo goes over and finds the punter on the bench and starts tearing him a new a-hole.

Saban tears new assholes right after a play. But then he moves on.
This post was edited on 9/28/21 at 12:45 pm
Posted by DP4Tide
Member since Aug 2021
1113 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 12:39 pm to
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Sark is all West Coast and a recovering alcoholic.


Define recovering ?
Posted by DP4Tide
Member since Aug 2021
1113 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 12:41 pm to
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those that were told to stay the hell away from the football program will be waiting to feel important again


Thankfully most of those have died off or will be too old by the time CNS retires
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26957 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 12:43 pm to
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Sark is all West Coast and a recovering alcoholic.


Define recovering ?


Sark is all West Coast and an allegedly recovering alcoholic.

Better?
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26957 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 12:44 pm to
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those that were told to stay the hell away from the football program will be waiting to feel important again


Thankfully most of those have died off...




Perkins infamously advised Mike Shula to stand his ground and not make wholesale changes to his staff when it was suggested by Mal Moore. All the Perkins devotees will be too old, dead, or too far removed to have any say.

Greg Byrne isn't going anywhere.
This post was edited on 9/28/21 at 12:47 pm
Posted by DP4Tide
Member since Aug 2021
1113 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 12:47 pm to
Yep the 60's gang damn near destroyed UA football
Posted by DP4Tide
Member since Aug 2021
1113 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 12:50 pm to
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rkins infamously advised Mike Shula to stand his ground



Thank god for this former player or CNS never gets hired

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