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re: Apparently Dwan Mathis is becoming QB1 for UGA
Posted on 9/3/20 at 9:19 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Posted on 9/3/20 at 9:19 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Should someone tell this guy that Fromm absolutely destroyed Florida in his career?
Posted on 9/3/20 at 9:36 am to BLG
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there are some great jokes about Kirby Not So Smart going with a qb that had brain surgery, but I won't do it
On the bright side when he does something stupid, which he will if he plays, we will already have an excuse
I don't know a lot about the depth chart at QB as no one else does outside the team itself....Bennet is the only known variable in the equation in the system so that is not the best situation we could be in
Posted on 9/3/20 at 9:55 am to Rhino5
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You say this, then you have others in your fanbase saying he could be drafted in the NFL.
Y’all need to make up your mind.
Why are the two separate? JT Daniels has the talent to get drafted too.
Posted on 9/3/20 at 10:02 am to Porter Osborne Jr
weren't UGA fans touting how good Newman was going to be as recently as yesterday?
Now we flip the narrative to "well he just wasn't that good and didn't get handed the keys"?
Can't have it both ways. Either the rest of the rant was correct all along and you all look dumb
or
UGA fans were correct in that he was going to be a really good QB and this will be a major loss for the team.
Those are the only two options at this point and both end with Bulldogs looking dumb.
Now we flip the narrative to "well he just wasn't that good and didn't get handed the keys"?
Can't have it both ways. Either the rest of the rant was correct all along and you all look dumb
or
UGA fans were correct in that he was going to be a really good QB and this will be a major loss for the team.
Those are the only two options at this point and both end with Bulldogs looking dumb.
Posted on 9/3/20 at 10:06 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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You don't hit the transfer portal twice if you have a stud on your roster.
Depth is a luxury that we wanted and got.
Posted on 9/3/20 at 10:20 am to DawgsLife
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OMG! He hasn't developed a QB in the 4 years he has been a HC!
Name a QB Kirby has developed, then.
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Just stop, dude. Your coach kept your newest "savior" on the bench in favor of Franks!
Trask was a 2* when he committed to Florida and was third in almost every single passing category, only behind Tua and Burrow last season. He actually beat out Fromm in yards, touchdown passes, completion percentage etc. etc.
...So...yeah, I'd say Mullen is a pretty decent Quarterback developer.
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Out of curiosity, who was the last QB Mullen has developed in his career?
............ Kyle Trask?
"This will mark Trask's fifth watch list that he has been named to during the offseason, including the Davey O'Brien National QB Watch List, Maxwell Award Watch List, Manning Award Watch List, CFPA National Performer of the Year Watch List and the aforementioned Earl Campbell Tyler Rose Award Watch List."
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Straws: Mullen-QB guru
Yeah, Trask and Franks didn't fit the system Mullen wants to run and he's only coached two years. Trask is on multiple watch lists and was the first UF QB to:
Throw for 300 yards in Death Valley since 2001.
Has thrown for more 300+ yard games than the last 10 Gator starting QBs combined.
First Gator QB to throw multiple TDs against Georgia since Tebow.
3rd in passing TDs for the 2019 SEC. (SEC from here)
4th in total passing yards.
3rd in total completions.
4th in yards per pass attempt.
3rd in QBR and Total QBR, 2nd in Passing Efficiency.
He only started ten games.
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Kirby can't develop a QB.
So, name a QB Kirby developed? Fromm had the worst completion percentage and threw less touchdowns than 2018. About 80 more pass attempts and only ~100 more yards. Y/A & AY/A were both lower and most Georgia fans agree that Fromm wasn't good his final year.
Posted on 9/3/20 at 10:25 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Fromm had the worst completion percentage and threw less touchdowns than 2018.
So you’re saying Fromm did worse when he lost all of his starting WR’s and TE’s and downgraded OC’s? This is quite the hot take.
This post was edited on 9/3/20 at 10:26 am
Posted on 9/3/20 at 10:26 am to CousinEDDIEEEE
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weren't UGA fans touting how good Newman was going to be as recently as yesterday?
No CousinRETARD, we were not. The media was hyping him. UGA fans on this board were cautiously opportunistic.
Posted on 9/3/20 at 10:29 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Kirby is a defensive coach.
Who would hire Kirby to develop a QB?
The OC and QB coaches develop QBs.
Chaney had a pedigree with QBs.
So does Monken.
Why do you think that Kirby recruits QBs so well to the UGA program? I'd say he recruits better than a QB coach in MuLLLen. Wouldn't you?
As for Fromm's regression, MuLLLen has seen that in his years of coaching the SEC as well. It isnt unique. UGA fans like myself might point to Fromm's splits with Cager and without Cager. And point to Fromm with and without Wims and Holloman in 2017 and 2018. Maybe MuLLLen has similar "excuses". I dont know. Fromm specializes in certain types of throws and when pressed to do more, he never developed into a more complete QB.
Who would hire Kirby to develop a QB?
The OC and QB coaches develop QBs.
Chaney had a pedigree with QBs.
So does Monken.
Why do you think that Kirby recruits QBs so well to the UGA program? I'd say he recruits better than a QB coach in MuLLLen. Wouldn't you?
As for Fromm's regression, MuLLLen has seen that in his years of coaching the SEC as well. It isnt unique. UGA fans like myself might point to Fromm's splits with Cager and without Cager. And point to Fromm with and without Wims and Holloman in 2017 and 2018. Maybe MuLLLen has similar "excuses". I dont know. Fromm specializes in certain types of throws and when pressed to do more, he never developed into a more complete QB.
Posted on 9/3/20 at 10:29 am to atlanta917
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So you’re saying Fromm did worse when he lost all of his starting WR’s and TE’s and downgraded OC’s? This is quite the hot take.
Are you saying Georgia lacked talent? Like what the frick is the point of getting top 3 in recruiting every year if you're just going to say you guys were poor at a position?
Posted on 9/3/20 at 10:30 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
quote:still didn’t lose 1 time against Florida
Fromm had the worst completion percentage and threw less touchdowns than 2018. About 80 more pass attempts and only ~100 more yards. Y/A & AY/A were both lower and most Georgia fans agree that Fromm wasn't good his final year.
Posted on 9/3/20 at 10:42 am to Huge Richard
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pretty smooth transition into next year.
The UGA mantra - Carpe Mañana
Posted on 9/3/20 at 10:47 am to Dawg4Life47
Wait who is the starter and is it the guy with the pencil rape stash and almost trying to grow a mullet?
Posted on 9/3/20 at 11:18 am to Rhino5
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You say this, then you have others in your fanbase saying he could be drafted in the NFL.
Y’all need to make up your mind.
He had not separated himself from the other two guys behind him. I don't think that statement is being disputed by anyone.
I have no idea if he is NFL material. Sitting out a year is no way to elevate your NFL stock, I am pretty sure of that.
Posted on 9/3/20 at 12:01 pm to Jorts R Us
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Lol what? Dude had almost a 1:1 TD:int ratio the year before Mullen.he cut that down significantly in Mullen's first year.
Makes you wonder why y'all were so thrilled he got hurt.
So, it was because he was so good? Who'd a thought it?
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I will agree that I don't understand how Mullen ever started Franks over Trask, though.
Posted on 9/3/20 at 12:04 pm to meansonny
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Kirby is a defensive coach.
Who would hire Kirby to develop a QB?
The OC and QB coaches develop QBs.
Chaney had a pedigree with QBs.
So does Monken.
How do you figure this? Dude is a journeyman WR coach.
Posted on 9/3/20 at 12:08 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Name a QB Kirby has developed, then.
Dude. he has only had one QB! SURELY you are not that dense.
quote:Makes you wonder why the QB Whisperer insisted on starting Franks ahead of him. Everybody saw that Trask was better except Mullen. Don't deny it. You railed in thread after thread that Trask should have been starting. But Muh, "Mullen is gud!"
Trask was a 2* when he committed to Florida and was third in almost every single passing category, only behind Tua and Burrow last season. He actually beat out Fromm in yards, touchdown passes, completion percentage etc. etc.
You are going to say that Mullen developed Trask when he has only played one partial year? Seriously?
quote:So your point is that Kirby can't develop a QB, even though Fromm took us to the Rose Bowl and the National Championship game his freshman season....but Mullen developed Trask even though he has not played a full season yet?
So, name a QB Kirby developed? Fromm had the worst completion percentage and threw less touchdowns than 2018. About 80 more pass attempts and only ~100 more yards. Y/A & AY/A were both lower and most Georgia fans agree that Fromm wasn't good his final year.
You have flawless logic there, bud.
But no. I am not arguing Fromm was real good his last two seasons. I will argue that if you want to proclaim Kirby a failure when he has had one QB, then what is Mullen after he saw Fitzgerald regress and Franks completely fail?
I breathlessly await your response.
Posted on 9/3/20 at 12:09 pm to atlanta917
Fromm got drafted in the NFL...
Trask and Frank's, not so much...
You put a qb in the nfl, you developed him.
Trask and Frank's, not so much...
You put a qb in the nfl, you developed him.
Posted on 9/3/20 at 12:12 pm to Smokeyone
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How do you figure this? Dude is a journeyman WR coach.
Except when he was at Southern Miss. he developed Nick Mullens.
You know the rest of the story: Monken resurrected one of the worst programs in the country and Mullens left Southern Miss having rewritten the record books.
Mullens is far from the only Monken quarterback disciple. He did oversee Oklahoma State’s offense, after all, which featured the prolific Brandon Weeden.
Monken and QBs
Posted on 9/3/20 at 1:01 pm to Smokeyone
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How do you figure this? Dude is a journeyman WR coach.
Monken was OC/QB coach at Oklahoma State. Brandon Wheeden became the 22nd pick in the 2012 NFL draft.
As the head coach at SMU, he pulled the offense from 9 passing touchdowns before he arrived to 40 passing TDs in his final season prior to getting the OC gig in the NFL in Tampa Bay.
Nick Mullens developed at SMU into an NFL player (has been on the 49ers practice and active roster for 3 years now. Currently making $750k for the 2020 season.
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