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re: anyone see this article about national titles and who has how many?
Posted on 1/12/20 at 4:16 pm to chitiger91
Posted on 1/12/20 at 4:16 pm to chitiger91
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No offense but Alabama has a few titles they claim that can be highly disputed and that goes for many other programs as well.
Offense taken, bitch.
1.) 1925. The facts in the case for 1925 are that Alabama, at the time, was widely considered to be the champions of college football during that year to all the football going public alive at that time. If you were a football fan and followed football, the University of Alabama was the team to be envied this particular year.
'Bama (10-0) traveled out to sunny LA for their first of many Rose Bowls. They defeated a 10-0 Washington team.
Dartmouth, the team that was even halfway in the picture, was 8-0, didn't play a bowl game, and played 4 non-1a teams out of 8 opponents.
'Bama, if there was no such thing as a NC at that time, was certainly the best team in the country. Deal with it. This is the game that made Northern sportswriters and West Coast fans commit suicide. Bama(10-0)
2.) 1926. This one is really easy. People were not stupid back in those days. They had just as much sense as modern day folk. They knew champions when they saw them. Let me lay it out for 'ya:
Stanford was 10-0-1 after the TIE in the Rose Bowl with 'Bama. Alabama was 9-0-1 after the TIE with Stanford in the Rose Bowl. Pretty close, right?
Wrong.
Stanford played 6 of what are now considered non-1A opponents out of a total of 10 reg. season games. How many non-1-A opponents did 'Bama face? One, yes, just one.
Therefore, Alabama was what we call in our time National Champions 2 years in a row.
3.) 1930 Another clear cut NC for 'Bama. 'Bama went 9-0 reg. season and then ventured out to sunny LA again, they got tired of seeing us, and stomped a hole clean through the chest cavities of a very strong 9-0, at the time, Washington State team. The final score = Champions 24, Wash. State 0.
Ouch, that one hurt the pride of lot's of folks out on the West Coast.
What did Notre Dame do? They went undefeated at 10-0 just like 'Bama but they stayed at home and said "no mas, no mas" we don't wants to play no bowl game.
Advantage = 'Bama. (Bama 10-0)
4.) 1934. A very strong Alabama team this year. Gritty and determined.
In 1934, Alabama surged through a regular season destruction, utter destruction of all opponents, and finished it all off with a face shattering of a very strong Stanford team whose record, at the time, stood at 9-0-1.
We shamed them and once again made everyone curse those stupid Southern boys who kept bursting apart cherished ideas about football supremacy on the West Coast and in the North.
The score was 29-13 in favor of Alabama.
3 Time Rose Bowl Champions at this point.
What did any team that was even close do? Minnesota went 8-0 and beat a bunch of 4 win teams and naturally, didn't play in a bowl game, no sir, not their style.
Chalk another one up for Alabama.(Bama 10-0)
And on we go:
1941. Not a NC. The year 1941 was put on the list to keep Alabama fans humble. Let's face it, if you are a Bama fan, being humble about college football takes a lot of trying.
#5.) 1961. AP + UPI + just about everything and everyone else chose 'Bama. Enough said. 5 so far, many more to come. ('Bama 11-0)
#6.) 1964. The AP & UPI, the two big dogs, chose Alabama, along with a couple of other selectors. To hell with Arkansas or anyone else. Sure, the AP gave out their trophy before bowl games; that is the way it was. Who was Alabama to tell the AP that what they were doing was supposedly wrong? They were just a humble football team doing it's best. The REC didn't control the polls way back then; that is a more contemporary situation.('Bama 10-1)
Let's get real everyone. Don't revise history. 5 years from now, CFP championships may be considered to be invalid. That does not negate the fact that your team may have won a CFP championship. It is what it is. ('Bama 10-1)
#7.) 1965. #7. A great one. This particular trophy is very beautiful and well designed. For this one, I am going to give a link to a much more well thought out summary than I can come up with.
Here you go:
Anxious to avoid the uproar that followed its regular season final poll last year, AP waited until after New Year's to crown the 1965 national champion.
Good move. At the end of the regular season Michigan State, Arkansas and Nebraska were all 10-0, with Alabama at 8-1-1 (the Tide lost their opener to Georgia and tied Tennessee). The bowl match-ups had Arkansas playing LSU in the Cotton, Michigan State vs UCLA in the Rose, and Nebraska vs Alabama in the Orange. Each game followed the other on TV.
The three top-ranked teams all lost. Arkansas, denied the '64 national title it thought it deserved, had its 22 game winning streak snapped in Dallas. LSU took a 14-7 lead in the second quarter then shut the Razorbacks out in the second half.
Michigan State, UPI's national champ, had opened the regular season with a 13-3 win over UCLA. The Spartans hoped to close the year on the same note, but couldn't overcome the Bruins' 14-0 halftime lead. The victory was UCLA's first Rose Bowl win ever.
So the Orange Bowl, in its second year at night, became the national championship game. Underdog Alabama built up a 24-7 lead by halftime then held off a Nebraska comeback to win 39-28.
Bama's Bear Bryant joined Minnesota's Bernie Bierman (1940-41), Army's Red Blaik (1944-45), Notre Dame's Frank Leahy (1946-47) and Oklahoma's Bud Wilkinson (1955-56) as the only coaches to win back-to-back national titles.
LINK
End of story. For 'Bama fans, it was a story book ending. ('Bama 9-1-1)
#8.) 1973. Love this one. 'Bama was undefeated at the end of the season and the UPI decided we were the best team in the country. It is a nice trophy too, kind of big. See, what many people don't understand is that at this time and during the preceding years, bowl games did not determine NC's, they weren't really important during this particular stage in the continuing evolvement of college football.
Wait, wait, how can that be, you may say. That is just the way it was. Bowl games were meant to be consolation prizes, not determinants of who was the NC. That was already decided after the regular season.
Once again it comes down to modern man attempting to place his mindset and values and ideas about how things should have been done to times past. Guess what? It doesn't work that way.
'Bama shared this one with Notre Dame, the team that beat them in a fantastic and 6 or 7 lead changing Sugar Bowl game. Don't believe Alabama won a NC this year? Come on down and take a look at the UPI trophy. That ain't no People's National Championship awarded by a teen-aged auburn fan who shut down his fake online poll to USC started to overtake auburn on his webpage. ('Bama 11-1)
The rest of them aren't really worth going over because you should all be more familiar with them.
This post was edited on 1/12/20 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 1/12/20 at 4:58 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
"I'm sure there are all kinds of interesting Stats and accomplishments that happened when 13% of the US Population was excluded from playing major CFB"
There have been many NBA basketball championships won by all-black teams. Should those championships be excluded as well? In essence, this is what you are proposing. Couldn't one also argue that women have been excluded from being able to play on the same teams as the men means that all of the current championships are invalid? Why limit the argument to race and yet exclude gender?
There have been many NBA basketball championships won by all-black teams. Should those championships be excluded as well? In essence, this is what you are proposing. Couldn't one also argue that women have been excluded from being able to play on the same teams as the men means that all of the current championships are invalid? Why limit the argument to race and yet exclude gender?
Posted on 1/12/20 at 5:04 pm to Based Bama
No way I'm reading that wall of retarded inbred falsities.
Melt gump melt.
Melt gump melt.
Posted on 1/12/20 at 5:25 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
quote:This is fine. What poll or polls should be recognized as the major poll for national championships?
but I feel the CFB Media should only recognize CFB stats post 1950
Right now Princeton and Yale have more titles than Bama. But do away with all those old historic titles and Bama will lead.
Since 1950, Bama has won the most AP, UPI/Coaches, FWAA, NFF/MacArthur, & BCS titles. Bama and Clemson is tied for the most CFP titles.
Posted on 1/12/20 at 5:31 pm to Based Bama
TL:DR
No one but you Bamatards gives a shyt about NCs from unheard of, defunct Polls that no one has ever heard of, back then or now
No one but you Bamatards gives a shyt about NCs from unheard of, defunct Polls that no one has ever heard of, back then or now
Posted on 1/12/20 at 5:34 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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defunct Polls
evidently about half the posters in this thread, including you, still don't understand what the poll era refers to.
This post was edited on 1/12/20 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 1/12/20 at 5:39 pm to Paul Maul number 37
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There have been many NBA basketball championships won by all-black teams. Should those championships be excluded as well? In essence, this is what you are proposing. Couldn't one also argue that women have been excluded from being able to play on the same teams as the men means that all of the current championships are invalid? Why limit the argument to race and yet exclude gender?
When those all Black teams won Titles NO ONE IN SOCIETY WAS EXCLUDED FROM COMPETITION DUE TO JIM CROW LAWS, I. E. GOVT SPONSORED RACISM
Sorry pal, your examples of all Black teams winning titles are poor examples because EVERYONE IN SOCIETY had the EQUAL OPPORTUNITY to compete & achieve
That is not what I was alluding to, excluding 13% of the population from the chance to compete isn't close to your example
Nice try, though
This post was edited on 1/12/20 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 1/12/20 at 6:01 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
Women are being excluded. Don't they deserve a chance to compete at the highest levels of sport?
Posted on 1/12/20 at 6:30 pm to chitiger91
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but Alabama has a few titles they claim that can be highly disputed
you clearly don't know what you are talking about, in the sixties the big 10 dominated the polls, Alabama had one national championship taken away as punishment during the civil right era because of George Wallace's antics, while winning three others
Posted on 1/12/20 at 7:37 pm to stephendomalley
Great thread. Also, surprisingly more enjoyable without any input from Gamecock fans.
Posted on 1/12/20 at 9:50 pm to jatebe
quote:again, just because this is said doesn't mean it's the case. i explained how it's not the case. there was no "share." it's a stupid idea
2003 - LSU (BCS/NFF) shares title with USC (AP/FWAA)
Posted on 1/12/20 at 11:18 pm to jatebe
All that really matter are the winners since the formation of the BCS. Those poll championships are of little real value. When #1 and #2 or #1-#4 don't get after it on the field it's an opinion of people who haven't seen most of what they are voting on.
Posted on 1/12/20 at 11:31 pm to John Milner
Whole lot of fact averse shitheads in this thread. They see BAMA and go apoplectic.
Posted on 1/12/20 at 11:56 pm to Paul Maul number 37
quote:Women are not excluded from NCAA football you dolt
Women are being excluded
Posted on 1/13/20 at 5:49 am to allin2010
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1980
Okay?
Auburn recognizes two titles, same as Georgia.
The difference?
In 1957, their first title, they were on probation for paying players.
In 2010, their second title, they were under investigation for paying a player.
Posted on 1/13/20 at 6:28 am to John Milner
Except by Alabama math, LSU has 8.
LSU is very stingy about claiming national championships. They refuse 2 that the NCAA tries to give them.
LSU is very stingy about claiming national championships. They refuse 2 that the NCAA tries to give them.
Posted on 1/13/20 at 6:30 am to stephendomalley
y'all still have a long way to go...It should be us adding another
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