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re: All of the new Marcus Freeman fans here, time to put your money where your mouth is

Posted on 1/10/25 at 11:40 pm to
Posted by AHM21
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Posted on 1/10/25 at 11:40 pm to
And yet the success Freeman has had this year outshines any season that Kelly has coached over the last 15 years - whether it be ND or LSU.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61045 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 11:42 pm to
Freeman made the natty in his third year, Kelly did the same.

Time to see if Kelly's assessment was incorrect or if Notre Dame is still the same old Irish.
This post was edited on 1/10/25 at 11:43 pm
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
27821 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 11:44 pm to
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if Notre Dame is still the same old Irish.


They won two NY6 games in a week - something they hadn’t done once in 30+ years. Trying to make it national title or bust is all about defending Grindin Brian and justifying him bailing and blaming it on not being able to win big games.

Posted by Jenar Boy
Elsewhere
Member since Aug 2013
13533 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 11:49 pm to
OSU absolutely killed themselves with penalties in the first half. Should’ve been up a minimum of 21-0 at halftime.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61045 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 11:51 pm to
quote:

"I want to be in an environment where I have the resources to win a national championship," Kelly said.


We're about to find out if Notre Dame actually has it or not.

Perhaps Kelly was the problem, perhaps Freeman will have the same results.

We will see.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8403 posts
Posted on 1/11/25 at 12:05 am to
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I'm just going off of what Kelly said.

He said he wanted to go somewhere where he could win a championship.

Folks like you changed that to "win a playoff game" or "compete for a championship" but he still said "win a championship".

We will see.


My brother in Christ, I will bet you any amount of money you want that LSU will not win a national title under Kelly in this format. Name your price, and I will meet it.

How many times do people have to tell you that the limiting factor of Kelly at ND was not the program (which Freeman has leveraged to his absolute advantage) but the coach.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61045 posts
Posted on 1/11/25 at 12:06 am to
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How many times do people have to tell you that the limiting factor of Kelly at ND was not the program (which Freeman has leveraged to his absolute advantage) but the coach


We will see.

Both made a national championship game in their third season, lets see if Freeman can actually win it.
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
27821 posts
Posted on 1/11/25 at 12:09 am to
You’re hoping ND loses so you can use it to defend Kelly.

Posted by JayAg
Member since Jun 2021
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Posted on 1/11/25 at 12:13 am to
You are saying there is not enough proof ND is better without Kelly? That’s an interesting take.
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/11/25 at 12:14 am to
Dear Facebook…
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8403 posts
Posted on 1/11/25 at 12:15 am to
quote:

quote:
How many times do people have to tell you that the limiting factor of Kelly at ND was not the program (which Freeman has leveraged to his absolute advantage) but the coach


We will see.

Both made a national championship game in their third season, lets see if Freeman can actually win it.


Want to bet that Freeman won't be down 4 touchdowns at halftime like KeLLLLLy was?
This post was edited on 1/11/25 at 12:16 am
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
33039 posts
Posted on 1/11/25 at 12:15 am to
Holy mother of response thread melts
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61045 posts
Posted on 1/11/25 at 12:20 am to
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You are saying there is not enough proof ND is better without Kelly? That’s an interesting take.


Yes.

How are they better?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61045 posts
Posted on 1/11/25 at 12:23 am to
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You’re hoping ND loses so you can use it to defend Kelly


There's nothing to "defend" him over.

He didn't believe Notre Dame had the resources to win a championship, we're about to find out if he was right or wrong.
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
33039 posts
Posted on 1/11/25 at 12:24 am to
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How are they better?



Look at the boards little autist go
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
27821 posts
Posted on 1/11/25 at 12:27 am to
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There's nothing to "defend" him over. He didn't believe Notre Dame had the resources to win a championship, we're about to find out if he was right or wrong.


You’re defending his reasoning for leaving ND.

Kelly couldn’t win the big game. Freeman starts winning big games and the narrative shifts to “yeah but let’s see if he can win it all. If he can’t, Kelly was right!”
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61045 posts
Posted on 1/11/25 at 12:28 am to
Did you make your bet yet?

Should be easy money.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61045 posts
Posted on 1/11/25 at 12:30 am to
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You’re defending his reasoning for leaving ND.

Kelly couldn’t win the big game. Freeman starts winning big games and the narrative shifts to “yeah but let’s see if he can win it all. If he can’t, Kelly was right!”


His reasoning for leaving Notre Dame is because he wanted to be able to win a national championship.

That was always the case, the narrative never shifted.

Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
27821 posts
Posted on 1/11/25 at 12:34 am to
And Notre Dame is a game away while Kelly is 9-4 and winning the Texas Bowl. But ND’s ability to compete for a title was the problem - with their tradition of winning only 11 national titles.
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
33039 posts
Posted on 1/11/25 at 12:34 am to
quote:

His reasoning for leaving Notre Dame is because he wanted to be able to win a national championship.




Which he has not been able to achieve. Looks like it was BK, not ND.
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