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re: Alabama retakes the #1 spot from Texas A&M in the 247 Sports 2022 recruiting rankings
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:29 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:29 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Why would we melt? We took ONE incoming transfer. Alabama took 3.
So? TAMU took 27 high school recruits; Bama took 24.
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:29 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Rivals is a crock of shite.
De’Anthony Gatson was the #17 RB in America ten days ago according to them. Committable offers to USC, Texas and other high profile schools.
Commits to Louisiana Tech last week because he has a close relationship with some of the new staff.
Today he is not even in the top-50 ranked running backs.
Rivals manipulates their rankings to draw audience. You are only fooling yourself if you think their rankings mean anything.
De’Anthony Gatson was the #17 RB in America ten days ago according to them. Committable offers to USC, Texas and other high profile schools.
Commits to Louisiana Tech last week because he has a close relationship with some of the new staff.
Today he is not even in the top-50 ranked running backs.
Rivals manipulates their rankings to draw audience. You are only fooling yourself if you think their rankings mean anything.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:30 pm to thunderbird1100
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I'm just giving you the obvious explanation here.
If you want a net team talent, they have a "college team talent" rating they show which is all the talent/ratings on a team in a given year here.
It's not really all that new.
Right, but that would need some sort of player re-rating every year as someone tears up their knee, someone turns into an obvious bust, etc. I don't think Demond Demas, for instance, would merit a 5 star rating if they had to do it over again.
I mean we are really splitting hairs as we all recognize most ratings as incredibly subjective and prone to local homerism on the micro level but make some predictive sense on the macro level.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:32 pm to Windy City
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Right, but that would need some sort of player re-rating every year as someone tears up their knee, someone turns into an obvious bust, etc. I don't think Demond Demas, for instance, would merit a 5 star rating if they had to do it over again.
In general you're going to have overperformers and underperformers. They arent going re-rate every single person after every season. The subjectivity on that would be laughable.
IF you have a 5-star that doesnt play at all year 1 do you drop him to a 3- star, how does that even work?
The point for the team talent is in general it shows how much talent a team has compared to others. Since they only use where they were rated out of high school - or a transfer rating I would assume moving forward, it's a level playing field. Of course players will be better or worse than their ratings, but overall it should be good as a comparison.
This post was edited on 1/26/22 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:34 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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All it took was Rivals cooking the books deliberately so that Georgia and A&M dropped while Alabama went up.
Alabama had big jumps on 247 as well??
Jihaad Campbell — No. 16 (up seven spots)
Ty Simpson — No. 28 (up six spots)
Elijah Pritchett — No. 30 (up 37 spots)
Isaiah Bond — No. 42 (up 47 spots)
Aaron Anderson — No. 48 (up 114 spots)
Amari Niblack — No. 97 (up 91 spots)
Isaiah Hastings — No. 138 (up 45 spots)
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:42 pm to thunderbird1100
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In general you're going to have overperformers and underperformers. They arent going re-rate every single person after every season. The subjectivity on that would be laughable.
IF you have a 5-star that doesnt play at all year 1 do you drop him to a 3- star, how does that even work?
The point for the team talent is in general it shows how much talent a team has compared to others. Since they only use where they were rated out of high school - or a transfer rating I would assume moving forward, it's a level playing field. Of course players will be better or worse than their ratings, but overall it should be good as a comparison.
I agree . . . . the level of noise in the whole process and the very mediocre to sad nature of the dudes out actually "Rating" kids makes all of this a waste of breath.
The narrow margin between the top classes should make any "#1" declaration pretty meaningless anyway.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:45 pm to MacMan10
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Alabama had big jumps on 247 as well??
Jihaad Campbell — No. 16 (up seven spots)
Ty Simpson — No. 28 (up six spots)
Elijah Pritchett — No. 30 (up 37 spots)
Isaiah Bond — No. 42 (up 47 spots)
Aaron Anderson — No. 48 (up 114 spots)
Amari Niblack — No. 97 (up 91 spots)
Isaiah Hastings — No. 138 (up 45 spots)
A&M's signees had a net overall gain of 219 places in 247. They might have felt the need to overcorrect to fix Rivals' frickery.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:46 pm to MacMan10
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Jihaad Campbell — No. 16 (up seven spots)
Ty Simpson — No. 28 (up six spots)
Elijah Pritchett — No. 30 (up 37 spots)
Isaiah Bond — No. 42 (up 47 spots)
Aaron Anderson — No. 48 (up 114 spots)
Amari Niblack — No. 97 (up 91 spots)
Isaiah Hastings — No. 138 (up 45 spots)
The Gump Bump is real.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:48 pm to msutiger
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Rivals manipulates their rankings to draw audience. You are only fooling yourself if you think their rankings mean anything.
Until 247 removes Rivals' rankings from their composite like they did with Scout, which relegated them to the dumpster, it matters.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:48 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
I'm not a big conspiracy guy personally.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:51 pm to MacMan10
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I'm not a big conspiracy guy personally.
Rivals has a long history of manipulating recruiting rankings to benefit their favorite team. While Burton was there it was t.u. Now that he's at 247, it appears to be Alabama.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:51 pm to Mulkey Man
6 Titles, 9 appearances, a bunch of SEC titles, and too many 1st round draft picks to count.
Bama bump is a real thing indeed.
Bama bump is a real thing indeed.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:59 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Rivals has a long history of manipulating recruiting rankings to benefit their favorite team. While Burton was there it was t.u. Now that he's at 247, it appears to be Alabama.
You can forget about a Bama fan admitting this time of year they always get the bump up for no other reaosn than the team the player is committed to on recruiting sites. You'll see posts like above quoting the success the team has but it's never a breakdown of hey lets go back and look at all these specific players that got these simultaneous bumps late in the game. There's always guys that will get bumped up and down, but you can always count on some mass increase in bama commits this late in the game. It's really like clockwork
Posted on 1/26/22 at 2:00 pm to Whentheleveebreaks
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Wait
They are changing rankings with transfers in
Too funny
Are they also including the transfers out
My guess, no
Rhetorical question... just how stupid are you?
Recruiting rankings have *always* strictly been a measure of incoming talent... they've ignored: NFL early departures, graduation, transfers, medical departures, quitting sport, legal trouble, etc...
The portal is a new, but now common way for teams to add to their roster strength due to the 1 time free transfer policy and transfers being just as immediate contributors as HS and JuCo players...
Posted on 1/26/22 at 2:09 pm to fibonaccisquared
I have to laugh at the rankings system these days. It appears the world simply couldn't handle A&M having the best class. Not ready yet I guess.
Neanderthals
Neanderthals
Posted on 1/26/22 at 2:12 pm to msutiger
quote:To be fair Gatson isn't highly ranked on any of the other sites. 247 Sports has him #67 RB. ESPN has him #44. Maybe Rivals was just behind in updating their rankings. Everybody seems slow these days since nobody wants to work. Rivals having him at #51 seems to be right in line. That's a pretty good conspiracy for all three to manipulate rankings seeing that I don't think ESPN really gives a shite about the traffic to their recruiting site.
Rivals is a crock of shite.
De’Anthony Gatson was the #17 RB in America ten days ago according to them. Committable offers to USC, Texas and other high profile schools.
Commits to Louisiana Tech last week because he has a close relationship with some of the new staff.
Today he is not even in the top-50 ranked running backs.
Rivals manipulates their rankings to draw audience. You are only fooling yourself if you think their rankings mean anything.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 2:12 pm to RollTide1987
With 3 fewer recruits too.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 2:16 pm to RollTide1987
IT'S A CONSPIRACY!!!
Posted on 1/26/22 at 2:18 pm to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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IT'S A CONSPIRACY!!!
Posted on 1/26/22 at 2:20 pm to Windy City
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Transfers don’t currently factor into a team’s recruiting ranking, but that may soon be changing.
Playing catch-up. Prior to transfer portal, transfers (not very many) didn’t count. Now that the portal is in place and they are seeing a large number jumping ship, they likely will count them in the near future.
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