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Alabama loses the most because of NIL + Tex/OU expansion - True or False?

Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:34 pm
Posted by Turf Taint
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2021
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:34 pm
In the short-term...

Saban's process does not adapt efficiently to the new market valuation model (eg, $1 million+ HS QB recruits)

All in for QB vs. Ohio State's model of sharing value with value producers

The sharing of value with critical O-line and receivers with hi potential QB recruits is not efficient in Saban's process (vs. Ryan Day's Ohio State model, for comparison) in short-erm. "The Process" adaptation is not efficient.

Bama slides back

Yes? No?
Posted by MackDaddyBrown
Member since Jul 2021
4093 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:34 pm to
I mean they're gonna lose the most because we're gonna be playing them year after year. We historically dominate them
Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:35 pm to
Saban is the goat because he adjusts well. Bama's decline will be when Saban declines.
Posted by gumpinmizzou
Member since May 2017
3259 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:35 pm to
Saban will adapt just fine. He’s shown to be pretty damn adaptable.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
73285 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:37 pm to
We are going to do this again? How many times does the man have to adjust for you to get it?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88013 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:37 pm to
quote:

Saban's process does not adapt efficiently to the new market valuation model


Belichick made it work
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
73285 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:38 pm to
Just like in Pasadena. Right?
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
14690 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:39 pm to
If Bama loses a lot … I imagine the rest of the conference won’t fare well either
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
11396 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:44 pm to
What makes anyone think Saban is going to struggle with NIL? He was actively using it to seed a recruit marketing point about how his QB was faring w/r/t endorsements to a room full of HS football coaches.

Stuff like NIL will only help not hurt the programs already at the top and Alabama is already at the top. Being a valuable program brand is a competitive advantage for endorsements to players.

People have really warped ideas about who Saban is…if he was as inflexible as people make him out to be, he’d never won another title after his 3 in 4 years in the late aughts and early-10s.
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 9:46 pm
Posted by MykTide
Member since Jul 2012
26930 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:45 pm to
quote:

We historically dominate them


Horns have won zero games against a Saban coached Bama team.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
20472 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:46 pm to
Nick Saban has what? 9 years of NFL experience with head coaching experience?

And Ryan Day had 2 as an assistant.

Who do you think will understand how to manage high value players?
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
11396 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:47 pm to
quote:

Horns have won zero games against a Saban coached Bama team.


shite that is underselling it. Texas hasn’t beaten Alabama in not only the current generation of recruit’s lifetime but most of their parent’s too.
Posted by secuniversity
Member since May 2015
5809 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:55 pm to
Saban was advocating 10 years ago that players should be legally compensated.

He was ahead of everyone as usual.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11798 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:56 pm to
And Bama's going to reverse that record against Texas reeeaaall quick!
Posted by Sebastian
Member since Jun 2015
3756 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:57 pm to
quote:

I mean they're gonna lose the most because we're gonna be playing them year after year. We historically dominate them
Tell us more stories about 100 years ago paw paw
Posted by Ttazhorn
Southern Arizona
Member since Sep 2019
222 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:08 pm to
I think Texas and OU have the "potential" to hurt BAMA. Only because they are in a better conference now and that opens more doors in recruiting...If they lockdown Texas recruiting again, look out.

I only say "potential" because there are other factors like coaching. If Texas and OU get the right coaching staffs and start winning in the SEC, then they become a juggernaut that is hard to take down...Texas high schools start feeding them 4 and 5 star recruits like a river flowing into the sea when they are relevant..

The other thing is Saban won't be around forever, he is like an enigma already, most successful college coaches at big schools are flat wore out and done after 12 to 15 years..His amount of success will be hard to replace at BAMA...
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 10:15 pm
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
11396 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:06 pm to
Alabama has been a relevant program on the national stage in nearly every decade since the 1920s. I’m pretty sure they’ve got the most decades with at least one national title in the modern era.

Is the standard Saban set unsustainable? Obviously. Winning 6 titles in 14 years is stupendous and essentially unparalleled even compared to Alabama’s other all-time legend head coach. Paul Bryant needed 25 years in Tuscaloosa to win 6 titles.

If Mike Dubose can win the SEC and beat Steve Spurrier twice in a single season…If Mike Shula and Dennis Franchoine can win 10 games at Alabama…I think Alabama can find someone after Saban who will manage a decline that still results in something that is a very fearsome opponent for all the great programs.
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 11:07 pm
Posted by ugasickem
Allatoona
Member since Nov 2010
12183 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:07 pm to
Bama is Bama. Saban is old. But Bama is still Bama
Posted by Navtiger1
Washington
Member since Aug 2007
3368 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:27 pm to
quote:

Bama is Bama. Saban is old



Saban is the devil, and i mean that as a compliment.

The dude can manage to lose World beating athletes and replace them with meh players who become world beaters. Look at the Heisman lists. He loses half his staff every year and never takes a hit. I mean he owns 1/4 of the head coaches in the SEC, as in they were his assistants. He is on his own level. Bama will 100% take a hit when he leaves. But they'll only fade to good. Saban can more than figure out how to navigate the NIL to Bama's advantage.
Posted by BamaRoo
Shitlingthorpe, UK
Member since Jul 2009
3942 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:29 pm to
quote:

Bama slides back
Yes? No?

How about we can only hope and pray.
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