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re: According to Wolken, among the PAC-12 players’ demands is 50% of the league’s revenue

Posted on 8/2/20 at 1:40 pm to
Posted by hilltophog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Sep 2016
1619 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 1:40 pm to
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Lol who is going to a 90k+ stadium to get on TV?



Posted by America1776
USA
Member since Jul 2010
1537 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 1:45 pm to
So at most 4-5 people at each stadium? I can only think of the dumb championship belt guy for LSU.

T-Rex kid was at least funny
Posted by Leopold
Columbia
Member since Sep 2013
1068 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 1:46 pm to
If there is an ounce of truth to this they have overplayed their hand horribly.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22665 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 1:53 pm to
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Post 1984 this might be the most delusional thing ever posted on any CFB Msg Board

You know less than nothing about College Sports

All the ADs are juggling schedules to try to save the TV Money and you think "donors" are the straw that's stirring the drink

Sad & pathetic

Saban makes more than $200K base from the Athl Dept, he probably gets $2 million from Nike, $3Million from Coach's Radio & TV Shows, more from camps , etc, but to make it seem like donors are paying his yearly salary doesn't tell the entire story


You think he gets $3 million from a coaches show?

Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 2:06 pm to
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If the players want this, then it is time to stop lowering admission standards for them. I actually want to see college athletics get a total reboot.

Silly!

All 70 P5 FB Programs are not in collusion with each other, raise your Admissions standards and then the next college like south carolina or Ky will accept them with open Arms, and then when they play you they will curb stomp your asses

The NFL Owners operate as one with the Commish as his representative, if Colleges did that, that would shoot their bogus, quasi racist Amateur Model straight to hell

No matter which way you turn THE PLAYERS have leverage and they aren't going to waste it, no natter how angry the Keyboard Warriors on here get

Just curious, were you asking for College Athletics to get a reboot when the Coaches & Athl Dept Administration Pay became insane?

But as soon as a few Players ask for a scant measure of Economic justice , you want to scrap the whole thing and build from scratch
Posted by MeatPants
Member since Nov 2015
8853 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 2:15 pm to
The part you aren’t getting about all these other schools taking them


No they won’t if they make the same demands

So if the pac 12 says no,, then the sec is going to say yes to this. No fricking way that will happen
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 2:40 pm to
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You think he gets $3 million from a coaches show?

Was using that as an example of how the HC is paid

Not nearly as idiotic as the HC makes on $200K from the Athl Dept and the other $8.8 million coming from donors which is what the guy I was replying to was suggesting
Posted by LSUNV
In the woods or on the water
Member since Feb 2011
22422 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 2:43 pm to
Dumbass fans like you are going to kill all sports all together
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 2:54 pm to
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Dumbass fans like you are going to kill all sports all together

If the frontline participants get bachelor's Degrees while the HC gets $9million per year, then that's a shitty system in need of a major overhaul

For you to not see something that's so obvious makes me wonder where your moral compass is and where is your sense of right & wrong

Now I can understand why so many around here defend confederate monuments
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22665 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 2:56 pm to
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Was using that as an example of how the HC is paid

Not nearly as idiotic as the HC makes on $200K from the Athl Dept and the other $8.8 million coming from donors which is what the guy I was replying to was suggesting


I was the guy you were replying to dumbass. And the $200k is fact. That is about the amount the school itself actually pays. I forget what the exact number is and it's been a few years, but I doubt it's changed that much.

The Crimson Tide Foundation, a non-profit organization, pays the rest. It's heavily tied to the school and all athletic parts for obvious reasons.

Feel free to donate. Click the donate link, then from there you can even specify exactly what area you want your donation to go to.

The Crimson Tide Foundation

Beyond that, college sports is non-profit in itself. The overwhelming bulk of the money is put back into the program and to the benefit of the players.

You are just stupid. You get proven wrong over and over and you don't stop. Ignorance can be fixed, stupid can't. Unless by some weird chance you ever thought to shut the frick up and listen for a minute.

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22665 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 2:59 pm to
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If the frontline participants get bachelor's Degrees while the HC gets $9million per year, then that's a shitty system in need of a major overhaul

For you to not see something that's so obvious makes me wonder where your moral compass is and where is your sense of right & wrong

Now I can understand why so many around here defend confederate monuments


$9 million per year for 1 position. If you take that and divide it up among the 85 scholarship players, it comes out to $105,882

That is less than the value of a football scholarship/benefits at Alabama.

Meanwhile Saban has to run the entire thing. You obviously aren't in management at the McDonald's you work at or have any understanding behind the stresses of management.

Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 3:00 pm to
That PeeJay poster a goddamn weirdo
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22665 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 3:01 pm to
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You can't even use proper capitalization yet you constantly insult other's intelligence when they consistently prove you wrong.


It's literally like talking to a 12 year old and what they think the world is about.

Because ain't nobody who has worked a real job or had to make their own way in this world that would ever think that kind of bullshite.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64606 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 3:02 pm to
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Meanwhile $9 million per year for 1 position. If you take that and divide it up among the 85 scholarship players, it comes out to $105,882

That is less than the value of a football scholarship/benefits at Alabama.

Saban has to run the entire thing. You obviously aren't in management at the McDonald's you work at or have any understanding behind the stresses of management.

He’s a communist. Don’t expect him to understand basic economics
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 3:04 pm to
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So the players sweat, toil, break bones and get injuries that will impact their future Health, they also get a debt free bachelor's degree, while the HC gets a $9million salary and an 8 figure buyout, with no room for the Athlete to EVER NEGOTIATE BETTER TERMS, the HC gets to negotiate better terms , but not the Athletes that are raising 98% of that Money, ethnicity is immaterial to this discussion, even if they were all white they'd deserve to get larger Stipends


You should start a professional league for 18+ years of age football players.

If the student athletes aren't getting what they are worth, someone should be able to pay them.
I'd love that someone to be you (or are you like all other commie bastards looking for ways to spend someone else's money all day).

Free market is there. The players don't have to agree to be amateur athletes. I say let them go pro (or maybe you should start bitching on an NFL board about their rules which make 18 year old professionals not viable).
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 3:05 pm to
I think he’s CelticDog
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64606 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 3:14 pm to
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You should start a professional league for 18+ years of age football players.

If the student athletes aren't getting what they are worth, someone should be able to pay them.
I'd love that someone to be you (or are you like all other commie bastards looking for ways to spend someone else's money all day).

Free market is there. The players don't have to agree to be amateur athletes. I say let them go pro (or maybe you should start bitching on an NFL board about their rules which make 18 year old professionals not viable).

If he was smart, he’d attack the NFL’s draft eligibility requirements, not a college giving guys a free education, lodging, food, clothes, training, medical care, exposure, etc.

College football fans are not fans of players. They’re fans of the schools for which players play. If a new league was formed to pay 18 year olds to play football, college football fans would still follow their college teams. Minor league baseball, the NBDL, and any other minor league athletic organization makes no money. They are subsidized because they wouldn’t make a profit otherwise. That’s why every pop-up football league ultimately fails. No one cares about those leagues.

College athletes should be grateful they’re given the lives they are for 3-5 years they’re in school instead of riding buses and staying at motels while making the salary of a wal-mart greeter. I don’t think they want the life of a minor league baseball player because schools can not afford to provide them what they do now if they’re also paying them a salary or sharing in their revenue. It’s simply not possible.
This post was edited on 8/2/20 at 3:16 pm
Posted by hilltophog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Sep 2016
1619 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 3:23 pm to
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If he was smart, he’d attack the NFL’s draft eligibility requirements
Amen. The NFL is responsible as they are the one's taking advantage of the free farm system. Establish the baseball model in college football. Create a minor league (D-league) for pro football and let the players who want to go pro do so. I say place roster, scholarship, and coaching position limits on college football like they do with baseball as well. Would make it a whole lot easier for athletic departments to fall in Title IX compliance if they were only having to give out 40 football scholarships or whatever the equivalence to 11.7 in baseball might be.
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 3:34 pm to
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Would you say CFB has been beneficial or harmful to the black population in America?

Very fair question and I AM GLAD YOU ASKED IT

Being beneficial or harmful to the Revenue Athletes is not the issue here, I have clearly written that white players in the Revenue Sports deserve larger Stipends also so don't make it just about the Black population, although I will admit when those with less freedoms & rights are the Sports that are Majority Black, there is a racism component that must be considered

Freedoms?

Rights?

Yep you heard me correctly, all the Coaches & Admins are allowed free market negotiations in good faith to maximize their pay while the Players are left to deal with an antiquated, quasi racist NCAA Amateur Model that offers no rights to negotiate better terms in any way, in any BILLION DOLLAR INDUSTRY, it isn't just that the frontline participants don't have any ability to negotiate better terms for themselves

Regardless of the "benefits" of big time College Sports, there is room to improve and be more fair to those that generate the lion's Share of the Money

Bama's Athl Dept grossed $148 million last year, you want me to believe it was all Saban's genius, and he deserves the full $9 million?

Out of that $148MM , why not set aside $6MM for the revenue Athletes and give FB & MBB the same $60K each, is that so ridiculous, I know about T9, bad Laws like T9 are made to be adjusted

I noticed in your question above you failed to mention the backdrop of big time college Sports, the 70 P5 Colleges will gross $5 Billion combined among them

Of course big time College Sports benefits Blacks, but with 5 Billion floating around the Top 70 College Athl Depts it could benefit All Revenue Athletes (even the white ones) in a manner that is more fair economically ---- is that such a bad thing?
This post was edited on 8/2/20 at 3:37 pm
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 3:35 pm to
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Establish the baseball model in college football. Create a minor league (D-league) for pro football and let the players who want to go pro do so


NFL isn't gonna lose millions on a "developmental" league and the NFLPA ain't
gonna subsidize a league for players to take their jobs.Sorry FB and basketball are different animals.NFL lost millions on the WLAF and NFL Europe...they won't go there again.

CFB has the best coaches,trainers and facilities for anyone who wants to get to the NFL.Anything else is a waste of time.

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they were only having to give out 40 football scholarships


You couldn't field a viable team with 40 scholarships.
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