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re: According to Wolken, among the PAC-12 players’ demands is 50% of the league’s revenue
Posted on 8/2/20 at 3:38 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
Posted on 8/2/20 at 3:38 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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why not set aside $6MM for the revenue Athletes
Because it’s illegal under Title XI
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bad Laws like T9 are made to be adjusted
Then call your congressman and stop blaming college athletics
But let’s say Title XI is abolished. Would you be ok with the thousands of non-revenue athletes that will no longer get to go to college as a result?
The money used to fund these payments to revenue sport athletes will come from somewhere and it ain’t going to come from football and basketball budgets
This post was edited on 8/2/20 at 3:41 pm
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Posted on 8/2/20 at 3:47 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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although I will admit when those with less freedoms & rights are the Sports that are Majority Black, there is a racism component that must be considered
Posted on 8/2/20 at 3:53 pm to hilltophog
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Amen. The NFL is responsible as they are the one's taking advantage of the free farm system. Establish the baseball model in college football. Create a minor league (D-league) for pro football and let the players who want to go pro do so. I say place roster, scholarship, and coaching position limits on college football like they do with baseball as well. Would make it a whole lot easier for athletic departments to fall in Title IX compliance if they were only having to give out 40 football scholarships or whatever the equivalence to 11.7 in baseball might be.
The NFL has nothing to do with this
This is about the $5billion dollars grossed by the Top70 P5 College Athl Depts
If the Top 70 are grossing $5 billion each yr, the players that generated it want a more fair share, that has no correlation with the NFLs 3 yr draft rule
No longer will College Athletes just forget about the $5 billion and focus on the Pros
IBM & Microsoft hire a lot of Engineers & Comp Sci graduates, are they taking advantage of a "free farm system"?
Is anyone asking IBM & Microsoft to build their own Engineering & Computer Science Colleges -- their own Farm System?
The same logic applied everywhere else in American Society is completely forgotten when it comes to CFB
I wonder why?
In the early 1900s Labor in the US started to organize because that Era was controlled by the Robber Barons and the power of the Corporation vs the rights of the Individual Worker had grown too far out of balance
No one asked to pay Revenue Athletes when the HC earned $250K per yr, but in this Era of $9million HCs and $5 billion payouts to 70 Colleges, the system is way too far out of balance, to balance the system you have to give the Revenue Athletes larger stipends
Posted on 8/2/20 at 3:53 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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The NFL has nothing to do with this
The NFL has everything to do with this
Posted on 8/2/20 at 3:57 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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This is about the $5billion dollars grossed by the Top70 P5 College Athl Depts
They need to get angry at all of their fellow athletes who play sports that make no money because they subsidize them.
Posted on 8/2/20 at 4:00 pm to lsufball19
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But let’s say Title XI is abolished. Would you be ok with the thousands of non-revenue athletes that will no longer get to go to college as a result
Why the scorched Earth scenarios?
Setting aside $6 million for the revenue Athletes might lead to some belt tightening, but it won't boot all the non Revenue Athletes out of school
I never said abolished , I said adjusted
Posted on 8/2/20 at 4:05 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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Of course big time College Sports benefits Blacks
Took a 1000 word term paper for you to come to this simple conclusion.
The writers of the PAC 12 letter seem to disagree with you.
Quoting them here:
“Because NCAA sports exploit college athletes physically, economically and academically, and also disproportionately harm Black college athletes, #WeAreUnited."
If they mean harm as in physically, they’re wrong because most NCAA athletes are white. If they mean harm as in irrevocable, systemic harm over time... well, you just said yourself that’s not true.
Posted on 8/2/20 at 4:06 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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Why the scorched Earth scenarios?
Setting aside $6 million for the revenue Athletes might lead to some belt tightening, but it won't boot all the non Revenue Athletes out of school
I never said abolished , I said adjusted
I don’t think you understand what Title IX is. You can’t adjust an equal opportunity law to provide for inequity depending on what sport you play or it no longer serves to provide equal opportunity. You either provide equal opportunity for all college athletes or you don’t. And you keep talking about gross revenue. Most schools don’t have a net revenue of 6 million dollars. The only way to increase their net revenue would be to cut expenses. They’re not going to cut expenses for basketball or football, so your end result would be getting rid of other sports, which is why I asked if you’d be ok with thousands of athletes across the country losing the opportunity to go to college.
This post was edited on 8/2/20 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 8/2/20 at 4:07 pm to djsdawg
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They need to get angry at all of their fellow athletes who play sports that make no money because they subsidize them
Those Sports don't subsidize themselves and they also don't allow themselves to continue into perpetuity while never earning 1 dollar, those in Power allow them to operate in the Red forever
When I was in College one yr I had an IBM Scholarship, when IBM had a bad yr financially the scholarship was gone the next yr
So why are all the non Revenue Sports so special?
I'll let you ponder that on your own
Posted on 8/2/20 at 4:09 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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When I was in College one yr I had an IBM Scholarship, when IBM had a bad yr financially the scholarship was gone the next yr
So why are all the non Revenue Sports so special?
Bc Nike needs to sell more “play like a girl” shirts.
Posted on 8/2/20 at 4:09 pm to America1776
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Took a 1000 word term paper for you to come to this simple conclusion.
The writers of the PAC 12 letter seem to disagree with you.
Quoting them here:
“Because NCAA sports exploit college athletes physically, economically and academically, and also disproportionately harm Black college athletes, #WeAreUnited."
If they mean harm as in physically, they’re wrong because most NCAA athletes are white. If they mean harm as in irrevocable, systemic harm over time... well, you just said yourself that’s not true.
One of my earlier posts I said that most of their demands was left Coast hooey
I don't agree with all of what they wrote, but I do believe that you don't delay progress waiting on perfection
Posted on 8/2/20 at 4:10 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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I don't agree with all of what they wrote, but I do believe that you don't delay progress waiting on perfection
I can’t certainly agree with that.
Posted on 8/2/20 at 4:11 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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When I was in College one yr I had an IBM Scholarship, when IBM had a bad yr financially the scholarship was gone the next yr
So if a football program has a bad fiscal year, would it be ok to cut players to make up for their losses? If a player doesn’t produce, should the school be able to cut him mid season? Should schools be able to fine players for misconduct? Should schools still have to provide everything else for free? Should we have college players sign contracts and hold them to the terms of those contracts, treating then like employees? You want to transfer? Tough shite.
The NCAA is going to let athletes profit off of their likeness. You’ll find out very soon just how valuable most college athletes are in the free market (not very)
This post was edited on 8/2/20 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 8/2/20 at 4:14 pm to RD Dawg
quote:Why not? I'm not saying limit roster numbers to 40 but just scholarships. The 40 scholarships don't have to be split amongst 40 players. You give out partials to reach the max number of 40. If college baseball can operate off of 11.7 for 35 (27 max on scholarship) then college football should be able to do around 40 scholarships for 85 players.
You couldn't field a viable team with 40 scholarships.
Are you saying college football players aren't as smart or financially secure as college baseball players?
I hope people don't think college football players are dumb and/or poor.
Posted on 8/2/20 at 4:18 pm to lsufball19
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So if a football program has a bad fiscal year, would it be ok to cut players to make up for their losses?
Look up UAB and get back to us.
The players are seeing a vulnerable situation right now and someone is in their ear telling them this is their chance at a cash grab. In a normal scenario, an NCAA student athlete has very little control over his scholarship.
Posted on 8/2/20 at 4:22 pm to America1776
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Look up UAB and get back to us.
What about disbanding an entire program is comparable to what we’re talking about?
But if you want to go there....you start paying football and basketball players, you’ll see non-revenue programs cancelled across college athletics. I asked peejay if he’d be ok with thousand of student athletes no longer having the opportunity to go to college.
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The players are seeing a vulnerable situation right now and someone is in their ear telling them this is their chance at a cash grab. In a normal scenario
Universities as a whole are in a vulnerable situation right now financially, so right now is probably the absolute worst time to be demanding money from anyone. I guess if they want to destroy the whole damn thing, they’re on the right track, but they better be careful what they’re wishing for
This post was edited on 8/2/20 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 8/2/20 at 4:27 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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If the frontline participants get bachelor's Degrees while the HC gets $9million per year, then that's a shitty system in need of a major overhaul
Are you retarded?
Frontline participants never make as much as the administration in any entity.
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The same logic applied everywhere else in American Society is completely forgotten when it comes to CFB
This post was edited on 8/2/20 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 8/2/20 at 4:27 pm to lsufball19
I literally quoted the relevant section of your message, then continued to discuss it below.
You asked if a college program has a bad fiscal year, can they revoke a scholarship. Hell yeah they can and do all the time at smaller schools.
You asked if a college program has a bad fiscal year, can they revoke a scholarship. Hell yeah they can and do all the time at smaller schools.
Posted on 8/2/20 at 4:29 pm to America1776
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You asked if a college program has a bad fiscal year, can they revoke a scholarship. Hell yeah they can and do all the time at smaller schools.
No they don’t. An FBS football program doesn’t cut their scholarships from 85 after a bad fiscal year. Disbanding an entire program is not comparable in the least to what was being discussed
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I literally quoted the relevant section of your message,
You literally did not
Posted on 8/2/20 at 4:30 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
Explain how in the f*** that is a shity system that is a capitalist system not a socialist Communist system you dim rod... My God not everybody deserves a participation trophy and wealth equally distributed get over yourself
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