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About time major college football got real playoffs
Posted on 6/10/21 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 6/10/21 at 2:43 pm
For decades, those against a real playoff system in major college football (D1,FBS, whatever it will be called now) made hollow, non-sensical arguments...
Too many games.
Too hard on the players.
Ruin bowl games.
Etc,etc.
Of course, every other level of organized football, from high school, to all other classes of college football, to the NFL, even the frickin arena leagues somehow magically did just fine with real, actual playoffs.
Bout. Damn. Time.
Too many games.
Too hard on the players.
Ruin bowl games.
Etc,etc.
Of course, every other level of organized football, from high school, to all other classes of college football, to the NFL, even the frickin arena leagues somehow magically did just fine with real, actual playoffs.
Bout. Damn. Time.
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 2:44 pm to HogsOfWar
A&M finally has a chance now to actually make a meaningful postseason game
Posted on 6/10/21 at 2:45 pm to HogsOfWar
Should stay at 4 teams
Posted on 6/10/21 at 2:47 pm to HogsOfWar
Do you think now magically some Boise St or Arkansas is going to win the title because of this??
Not happening. The same teams will win it, because those same teams have tremendous talent and depth. Hate to break it to ya, sport
Not happening. The same teams will win it, because those same teams have tremendous talent and depth. Hate to break it to ya, sport
Posted on 6/10/21 at 2:48 pm to HogsOfWar
Gus is going on a revenge tour in Alabama when this thing expands.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 2:49 pm to SadUCFKnight
UCF will never win a National Title.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 2:50 pm to SadUCFKnight
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Gus is going on a revenge tour in Alabama when this thing expands.
Yep, every Waffle House in the state.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 2:59 pm to HogsOfWar
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non-sensical arguments...
Too many games.
Too hard on the players.
Ruin bowl games.
All these predictions were correct weren’t they?
-Players now sit out games, so I think at least they believe it’s too many games and too hard on them.
-The bowl games have definitely been ruined.
I’m okay expanding the playoff, but some of y’all make some sorry arse arguments.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 3:05 pm to HogsOfWar
Preech
Posted on 6/10/21 at 5:25 pm to AUCE05
More blowouts! Can't wait.
Lol at anyone thinking this changes anything. But you cried, "It's not fair!!" And got your way. What will you do in 5 years when it's still the same 4 or 5 teams winning?
Lol at anyone thinking this changes anything. But you cried, "It's not fair!!" And got your way. What will you do in 5 years when it's still the same 4 or 5 teams winning?
Posted on 6/10/21 at 6:02 pm to BamaSaint
"More blowouts! Can't wait.
Lol at anyone thinking this changes anything. But you cried, "It's not fair!!" And got your way. What will you do in 5 years when it's still the same 4 or 5 teams winning?"
In one year it will most likely still be the same 3-5 teams. In two years, that gets a little less likely. As time goes on, it becomes even less likely with the 12 team playoff.
Right now, no one outside of the "P-5" can honestly say to a recruit, come here, and help us break through to the playoffs. Right now, only a handful of teams IN the "P-5" can honestly sell a recruit with the idea that they can sign and be part of a program competing for a national championship. But going to 12 teams, with the conference champs of the highest ranked six FBS conferences getting an auto bid, fundamentally changes the "playing field" in recruiting. A program that commits to competing at the highest level actually should now have a chance to evolve into a program that in fact does compete at the highest level. And that happens incrementally, not overnight, by recruiting the players to get there. Going to 12 teams, with the conference champs of the highest ranked six FBS conferences getting an auto bid, removes an artificial barrier that effectively excluded upward mobility for more than half of the FBS and pretty much cemented in the seats at the top of the heap for those who were at the top of the heap when the BCS came along and morphed into the current limited playoff.
Does this mean that a UCF or a BYU or, for that matter, a Wake Forest or Boston College WILL now magically be placed in competitive parity with Alabama or Ohio State? Of course not, but it means that, over time, the sort of upward (and downward) mobility that allowed historical also rans like Florida State and Miami and Virginia Tech to improve their lot by their own efforts and dedication will at least be a POSSIBILITY again.
Lol at anyone thinking this changes anything. But you cried, "It's not fair!!" And got your way. What will you do in 5 years when it's still the same 4 or 5 teams winning?"
In one year it will most likely still be the same 3-5 teams. In two years, that gets a little less likely. As time goes on, it becomes even less likely with the 12 team playoff.
Right now, no one outside of the "P-5" can honestly say to a recruit, come here, and help us break through to the playoffs. Right now, only a handful of teams IN the "P-5" can honestly sell a recruit with the idea that they can sign and be part of a program competing for a national championship. But going to 12 teams, with the conference champs of the highest ranked six FBS conferences getting an auto bid, fundamentally changes the "playing field" in recruiting. A program that commits to competing at the highest level actually should now have a chance to evolve into a program that in fact does compete at the highest level. And that happens incrementally, not overnight, by recruiting the players to get there. Going to 12 teams, with the conference champs of the highest ranked six FBS conferences getting an auto bid, removes an artificial barrier that effectively excluded upward mobility for more than half of the FBS and pretty much cemented in the seats at the top of the heap for those who were at the top of the heap when the BCS came along and morphed into the current limited playoff.
Does this mean that a UCF or a BYU or, for that matter, a Wake Forest or Boston College WILL now magically be placed in competitive parity with Alabama or Ohio State? Of course not, but it means that, over time, the sort of upward (and downward) mobility that allowed historical also rans like Florida State and Miami and Virginia Tech to improve their lot by their own efforts and dedication will at least be a POSSIBILITY again.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 6:26 pm to HogsOfWar
Folks wanted this. Well, we are about to get it. We had the only sport where the regular season mattered. Now, if u are 8-3 and in the sec, you're in. Can't wait for that 7-5 usc matchup with 8-4 Baylor who are only in because their conferences sucked.
The bull$hite argument is, well we are losing interest. If usc and Texas were worth a $hite they would have interest. How many folks followed Clemson 20 years ago?
Well, congrats to all the everybody gets a trophy crowd. We have now made college football cool with 3 loss seasons being ok.
The bull$hite argument is, well we are losing interest. If usc and Texas were worth a $hite they would have interest. How many folks followed Clemson 20 years ago?
Well, congrats to all the everybody gets a trophy crowd. We have now made college football cool with 3 loss seasons being ok.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 6:32 pm to HogsOfWar
quote:So then tell me, genius, what made Division I college football stand up above all those others you mentioned?
Of course, every other level of organized football, from high school, to all other classes of college football, to the NFL, even the frickin arena leagues somehow magically did just fine with real, actual playoffs.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 7:06 pm to Wavefan
The more the games are played, the higher of a possibility of some upsets.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 7:20 pm to HogsOfWar
Why would Notre Dame want to get embarrassed by an SEC team every year?
Because you know as an independent they will be an automatic bid every year.
Because you know as an independent they will be an automatic bid every year.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 7:32 pm to Wavefan
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Of course not, but it means that, over time, the sort of upward (and downward) mobility that allowed historical also rans like Florida State and Miami and Virginia Tech to improve their lot by their own efforts and dedication will at least be a POSSIBILITY again.
Florida State and Miami went from historical also rans to college football powers due to demographic shifts. The state of Florida saw a huge population surge in the 60s and 70s. It's no coincidence that that same population surge caused the Florida programs (Florida, Florida State, and Miami) to explode in the 80s and 90s.
And that's what your thesis ignores. Demographics. Southern teams are going to continue to win and win at a high level because the demographics of the sport favor the Deep South. Most of the best players in America can be found down here and few of them want to move cross country to play football when the schools 50-60 miles from home have better facilities and coaches.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 7:42 pm to HogsOfWar
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Too hard on the players.
The average college team runs 30% more plays each game than a pro team. Gin up a 17 game college season you have the makings of multiple career ending injuries. The players will respond by quitting.
The old days winning your conference was the big deal… a poll NC was just extra. Extra playoff games just makes more teams cry that they should qualify. No they should not.
Frankly the BCS did a pretty good job picking the 2 playoff teams. Going to 4 teams in playoffs has not added much interest or drama except to ruin bowl games. Adding more playoff teams will just be even more worthless. But if something isn’t working (adding more fan interest), I guess we will just keep doing it and expect a different result.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:00 pm to Jacknola
Fan interest in college football is waning. A lot states not in the south use to be more involved but have pulled away and this causes solid programs to turn into bad football. It is becoming more of a regional sport which is not good.
Expanding the playoffs is a desperate attempt to get more casual college football fans to tune in for more ratings.
Expanding the playoffs is a desperate attempt to get more casual college football fans to tune in for more ratings.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:14 pm to HogsOfWar
This good for the SEC and bad for Bama. Bring the chaos.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:17 pm to BamaSaint
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More blowouts! Can't wait.
Lol at anyone thinking this changes anything. But you cried, "It's not fair!!" And got your way. What will you do in 5 years when it's still the same 4 or 5 teams winning?
This helps teams like Oregon though. It all but guarantees them a chance in a lot of years. It won’t be a big difference but it will help keep some kids out west.
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