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re: A&M people: Kirk or Reynolds?

Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:02 pm to
Posted by Spaceball 1
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2010
613 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:02 pm to
They'll both play on Sundays, but I'd take Kirk. Having watched all of our games Reynolds has had some really hideous drops.

And Kirk while small is special, a la Ted Ginn or Percy Harvin. He might not ever be a number 1 type of guy but he'll play a long NFL Career.
Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
7215 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:04 pm to
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BTW, what has happened to Speedy Noil? I thought he'd be doing what Kirk is doing this year?

I just don't know about Speedy. Apparently he's injured, so that's why you didn't see him last week. But he hasn't impressed all year, which might be a result of some nagging injury, but I'm inclined to think it's more about passion and effort.

Outside of maybe 5 or 6 spectacular catches, Speedy just hasn't really impressed me since he arrived on campus. He doesn't seem to have a ton of lateral speed or "wiggle." Nor does he seem to have elite acceleration. His route running is less than stellar as well.

He's obviously a tremendous talent, but right now I base that more on his high school career than anything else.

I'm ready to see what this kid can do.
This post was edited on 9/28/15 at 4:09 pm
Posted by xenythx
Member since Dec 2007
32417 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:04 pm to
That one handed non-catch that Reynolds made was probably one of the best, most effortless catches I've seen this season. Too bad he couldn't get his feet inbounds.
Posted by ronbergundy
Member since Feb 2014
57 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:10 pm to
Both are studs at different positions. Reynolds has freak hands. Basically a taller OBJ.
Kirk is just a freak in space and has some of the best vision I've seen. In the open field, he's a nightmare to get the right angle on and tackle. From a pure NFL draft standpoint, I'd say a tall, fast wideout with flypaper hands would be taken first.

In regards to Speedy....he is hobbled by a hamstring injury however rumors have also been floating around that he does not take well to constructive criticism and is letting his ego get in the way of coaching. If you watch him, he barely runs his routes, he just kind of runs out gets open and makes a freak grab over a DB. Who knows how true that rumor is but it's not for any team violation that's for sure. He isn't suspended as he caught a TD just last week or so. We are all hoping he gets better soon, and if the rumors are true, I hope he realizes that if he becomes a student of the game, with his talent he has as much potential as either Kirk or Reynolds to be an NFL WR one day.

Edit: if anyone has that clip of Reynolds one handed grab please post it. My jaw fricking dropped to the floor after that one. You could see the cornerback laugh and ask him after "did you just one hand that?" And Reynolds smiled and nodded as they ran back to run the next play
This post was edited on 9/28/15 at 4:14 pm
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56272 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:18 pm to
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That one handed non-catch that Reynolds made was probably one of the best, most effortless catches I've seen this season
This right here. Also, his acceleration, deceleration and re-acceleration on the long catch was impressively smooth.
Posted by fan251
Mobile, AL
Member since Jun 2011
857 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:20 pm to
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So what is your question? They almost play different positions. Reynolds is great on the outside and kirk is playing great on the inside. Both are necessary.


WR is WR........geez!!!

Just because they have "different" skill-sets doesn't mean the position changes!!!

It's so easy to spot people who have never played the game of football outside of Madden
This post was edited on 9/28/15 at 4:22 pm
Posted by TexasAg13
San Antonio de Béxar
Member since Jul 2013
5815 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:27 pm to
Hard to say, they are both special playing different positions at WR.

Reynolds move on the CB on our 2pt conversion was sick.
Posted by CajunTiger_225
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
9201 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:30 pm to
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Christian and Josh play different positions

Are they both not WRs?
Posted by TexasAg13
San Antonio de Béxar
Member since Jul 2013
5815 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:32 pm to
Slot vs. Outside receiver. Not saying they are this level, but it's like comparing Randy Moss and Wes Welker. Very different types of WR, but both effective
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:33 pm to
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Just because they have "different" skill-sets doesn't mean the position changes!!!


X Y & Z in this offense have different roles, run different routes, face off against different defenders, take different amount of punishment, have different opportunities for YAC. Sure they all "catch the ball", but each is different enough to be a separate position in my opinion. Would you argue that a FB is the same as a HB? They both line up (traditionally) behind the QB, both take hand-offs... so same thing according to your logic?
This post was edited on 9/28/15 at 4:36 pm
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50254 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:34 pm to
The duo kind of reminds me of Sammy Watkins (Kirk) and Nuk Hopkins(Reynolds) at Clemson a few years ago.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:35 pm to
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Are they both not WRs?


Sure, in the same sense that halfback and fullback are both "running backs".
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29178 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:35 pm to
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WR is WR........geez!!!

Just because they have "different" skill-sets doesn't mean the position changes!!!

It's so easy to spot people who have never played the game of football outside of Madden


You're an idiot.
Posted by JGTiger
Member since Aug 2007
2938 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:36 pm to
Have to give aTm props here, Kirk was awesome Saturday. Look forward to watching more of him. Reynolds is the typical WR, a good one, but I think Kirk is the game changer you guys have been looking for.
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:38 pm to
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Speedy has been injured all year so far.


All year or all season? 9months is a long time for a hamstring injury.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50254 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:39 pm to
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All year or all season? 9months is a long time for a hamstring injury.



Are you fricking stupid?
Posted by ronbergundy
Member since Feb 2014
57 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:42 pm to
Our OC is going to and has already been using Kirk as he did Tavon Austin in WV. One of the plays he had Kirk sneak out of the back field uncovered and just busted up the middle for a huge play. the play calls to Kirk were awesome last week and I expect it to continue. Our OC has been dying to get a talented slot in his scheme
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56272 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:43 pm to
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Edit: if anyone has that clip of Reynolds one handed grab please post it. My jaw fricking dropped to the floor after that one. You could see the cornerback laugh and ask him after "did you just one hand that?" And Reynolds smiled and nodded as they ran back to run the next play

here you go

Posted by fan251
Mobile, AL
Member since Jun 2011
857 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:48 pm to
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X Y & Z in this offense have different roles, run different routes, face off against different defenders, take different amount of punishment, have different opportunities for YAC. Sure they all "catch the ball", but each is different enough to be a separate position in my opinion. Would you argue that a FB is the same as a HB? They both line up (traditionally) behind the QB, both take hand-offs... so same thing according to your logic?



I've both played and coached football for the better part of my life and that has to be the DUMBEST SHITE I've ever read!!! GOOD LORD, SMH!!!
Posted by ronbergundy
Member since Feb 2014
57 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:49 pm to
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here you go




Cheers, friend
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