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re: A Real Ranking Of The SEC Coaches
Posted on 3/10/13 at 6:01 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 3/10/13 at 6:01 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Some more fun facts:
Miles lost to Southern Miss and and Louisiana Tech at OSU as well
Was 0-4 against Texas
Never won his conference
Miles lost to Southern Miss and and Louisiana Tech at OSU as well
Was 0-4 against Texas
Never won his conference
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Posted on 3/10/13 at 6:02 pm to cigsmcgee
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all by FGs or in OT
Does that make them any less of a loss? I guess you can look forward to more moral victories over us
Posted on 3/10/13 at 6:02 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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We have a much better program than you do.
And here I was thinking this was a thread about coaching comparisons.
From your last few posts, I can gather that you believe Miles can only be competitive at a school with built in advantages. If you think he wouldn't do well at Arkansas, then why is he considered a top coach?
Posted on 3/10/13 at 6:03 pm to Gladius Veritas
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Some more fun facts:
Miles lost to Southern Miss and and Louisiana Tech at OSU as well
Was 0-4 against Texas
Never won his conference
Still irrelevant. I freely admit Les wouldn't do well at Arkansas either
Posted on 3/10/13 at 6:03 pm to Stonehog
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then why is he considered a top coach?
He wins
Posted on 3/10/13 at 6:05 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Does that make them any less of a loss?
no, just points out wisky under bert was never outclassed by schools with more inherent advantages. being consistently competitive implies good coaching.
Posted on 3/10/13 at 6:05 pm to Stonehog
quote:How does it feel to have a losing record against a pathetic coach?
Fun fact: Les Miles was 1-4 against Texas Tech while at Ok St.
That's pathetic.
Posted on 3/10/13 at 6:05 pm to Draconian Sanctions
You've really painted yourself into a corner here. You want to argue that Miles is a top 4 coach in the conference, but you also admitted that he couldn't do well at Arkansas.
So which is it?
So which is it?
Posted on 3/10/13 at 6:05 pm to dawgfan24348
1. Saban
2. Miles
3. Spurrier
4. Richt
5. Sumlin
6. Muschamp
7. Freeze
8. Franklin
9. Mullen
10. Biliema (Hogs can bitch but he has to win a game in the SEC first)
11. Jones
12. Pinkel
13. Malzahn
14. Stoops
2. Miles
3. Spurrier
4. Richt
5. Sumlin
6. Muschamp
7. Freeze
8. Franklin
9. Mullen
10. Biliema (Hogs can bitch but he has to win a game in the SEC first)
11. Jones
12. Pinkel
13. Malzahn
14. Stoops
Posted on 3/10/13 at 6:06 pm to Gladius Veritas
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Miles lost to Southern Miss and and Louisiana Tech at OSU as well
And Saban lost to UAB at LSU and ULM at Bama. Should we say he is a horrible coach now too?
Posted on 3/10/13 at 6:07 pm to Stonehog
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So which is it?
The two aren't mutually exclusive so I'm going to say both.
Arky needs a GREAT x's and o's guy like Petrino to do well. trying to beat the big boys on their own terms with a guy like Miles who is a recruiter and CEO type would not work at a place like Arkansas. Every job is different. Saban is the only guy out there who you could plug in literally anywhere and he would win big.
This post was edited on 3/10/13 at 6:08 pm
Posted on 3/10/13 at 6:09 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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The two aren't mutually exclusive
They are actually. If you think Miles is a great coach then he could be a great coach anywhere. Not just Lsu.
If you want to say the program makes Miles look better than he actually is, then I would agree with you.
Posted on 3/10/13 at 6:11 pm to Stonehog
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If you think Miles is a great coach then he could be a great coach anywhere.
That's a very simplistic view and if you read my edit you'll see why you're wrong.
Posted on 3/10/13 at 6:11 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Arky needs a GREAT x's and o's guy like Petrino to do well.
As head coach? No we don't. There's something called a staff you know
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trying to beat the big boys on their own terms
The hell does that even mean? Is this some "beat them at their own game" comment?
If it is then it's been explained a thousand times why that doesn't make sense
Posted on 3/10/13 at 6:12 pm to Tigah32
Do you really need Bret to win an SEC game to know that he's better than Mullen?
Posted on 3/10/13 at 6:13 pm to Gladius Veritas
I will go ahead and agree that he's better than Mullen 
Posted on 3/10/13 at 6:16 pm to dawgfan24348
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Les doesnt deserve to be that high. He hasn't won a BCS bowl since 07 and that was with Sabans players.
So when he won the SEC just a year ago and took our tigers to his second NCG was that with Saban's players? Yeah our coach doesn't deserve to be that high
Posted on 3/10/13 at 6:16 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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trying to beat the big boys on their own terms with a guy like Miles who is a recruiter and CEO type would not work at a place like Arkansas.
Why not?
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That's a very simplistic view
You're talking about beating the "big boys" while referring to Lsu. That's a 10 year sample size. And it's not a simplistic view to say that a great coach can do well at more than one school. Plenty of coaches have success at multiple stops.
Posted on 3/10/13 at 6:20 pm to Stonehog
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You're talking about beating the "big boys" while referring to Lsu. That's a 10 year sample size.
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And it's not a simplistic view to say that a great coach can do well at more than one school.
There are also plenty of coaches who switch jobs and don't have the same success. Poor job fit is a big reason why that happens.
This post was edited on 3/10/13 at 6:21 pm
Posted on 3/10/13 at 6:21 pm to Gladius Veritas
Nobody is ranking Mullen ahead of Bret. I think Mullen has already hit his peak. If the SECW was down like it was pre-2001ish, he'd be a great coach. I just think he's in over his head right now.
Saban
Spurrier
Miles
Richt
Sumlin
Muschamp
are all better than Bret in the SEC atm. Do you not agree?
Saban
Spurrier
Miles
Richt
Sumlin
Muschamp
are all better than Bret in the SEC atm. Do you not agree?
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