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re: A move in the right direction for college football. Pay the athletes directly and make....
Posted on 6/7/25 at 8:42 am to koreandawg
Posted on 6/7/25 at 8:42 am to koreandawg
contracts for athletes to be paid by schools should include NDAs and non-competes for designated time frames - along with harsh financial penalties if violated for athletes and their agents/reps alike -
the P4 schools & conferences can implement a standard contract that protects the institutions' interests and in part restore some sort of order and uniformity to sports on college campuses -
if athletes and agents don't like it - go find another platform to showcase skills while getting paid in hopes of a NFL MLB or NBA career -
the P4 schools & conferences can implement a standard contract that protects the institutions' interests and in part restore some sort of order and uniformity to sports on college campuses -
if athletes and agents don't like it - go find another platform to showcase skills while getting paid in hopes of a NFL MLB or NBA career -
Posted on 6/7/25 at 8:43 am to Oilfieldbiology
If the average ACT score on campus is a 30 there aren’t many degree choices where an 18-22 ACT score having athlete can compete.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 8:53 am to Gaston
20 years from now collleges will be out of the athletic business
We will be cheering on rec league lacrosse in these huge stadiums
We will be cheering on rec league lacrosse in these huge stadiums
Posted on 6/7/25 at 9:07 am to SoFla Tideroller
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Outside of collegiate sports arena there is zero market for 18-22 year old players. None. The draw to watch these players is the fact that they play for Auburn or Texas or Notre Dame; not their individual star power.
And what happens to the value of the Auburn, Texas, and Notre Dame programs if they’re getting embarrassed every week because their players suck?
People don’t want to just watch those teams play. They want to see them win. And it is also more exciting for the masses (and draws more eyes) to have future NFL guys out there than a bunch of everyday college kids that will be working on someone’s taxes or selling insurance next year.
Players have leverage. They wouldn’t be getting paid if they didn’t. And the “brand” doesn’t matter that much. What’s going to happen to Apple or Berkshire Hathaway if they start hiring a bunch of dumbasses?
Not just anyone can develop the next big thing for Apple… and not just anyone can play QB for a national champion. You need talented people.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 9:11 am to JayAg
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I think there is a few basketball guys on their 3rd SEC school.
I think there are a few basketball players on their third SEC school.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 9:17 am to Victor R Franko
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They own themselves, the Universities do not own the athletes, deal with it.
You're right. They do. So, they have a choice to make. Play college football under the terms offered or, go out on their own and sell their NIL on the open market. Why are you against choice?
And why aren't you upset with the NFL? They're the ones who won't allow 18 & 19 year olds to play under any circumstances.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 9:20 am to Globetrotter747
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And what happens to the value of the Auburn, Texas, and Notre Dame programs if they’re getting embarrassed every week because their players suck?
The point you're missing is Auburn, Texas, Notre Dame, et al collectively and voluntarily established the rules by which they would compete with one another. And that was under the auspices of amateur athletics. Whether you think that is wrong or out-dated is irrelevant.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 9:34 am to Gaston
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It is strange that most of the players can’t pass a normal curriculum at some schools. UGA, UF…there may be a couple of O Line players who can get a real degree…
A better reason to make them employees and put them in a Parks and Recreation Leadership curriculum.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 9:48 am to SoFla Tideroller
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The point you're missing is Auburn, Texas, Notre Dame, et al collectively and voluntarily established the rules by which they would compete with one another. And that was under the auspices of amateur athletics. Whether you think that is wrong or out-dated is irrelevant.
Apparently not in 2025.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 9:49 am to koreandawg
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sure third party NIL deals are legit and not just a booster paying for play.
If they are getting paid then no NIL deals. Period!
Posted on 6/7/25 at 10:11 am to SoFla Tideroller
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Why are you against choice?
I think a lot of people are underestimating the incredible potential represented if this settlement is actually successfully applied. What's to stop corporations from banning together and getting a judge to sign off on a 'settlemen't that limits the pay of your career field and limits your pay based on some 3rd party estimate of your market value (not based on for exampmle, performance) - a third party that is being paid by the corporations? They would be doing this in order to keep the salaries reasonable, keep the market competitive for the various corporations involved, and prevent the chaos of capitalism - noble reasons ofcourse.
If this all works, implementation of this across industries could literally save billions to even trillions of dollars in employment expenses annually for corporations in America. I guess on one up side to all of that, you would no longer need labor unions. All you need is a federal judge and perhaps a half dozen people who work in your field to 'represent your class', and the deal is done.
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Posted on 6/7/25 at 10:23 am to koreandawg
This does absolutely nothing to prevent the Wild Wild West”.
Premium athletes will still get premium $$$ from all the usual sources. Nice result for special teams guys and backups they get some money. But the 5 stars will still have to be paid.
Premium athletes will still get premium $$$ from all the usual sources. Nice result for special teams guys and backups they get some money. But the 5 stars will still have to be paid.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 10:38 am to koreandawg
I think it further dooms it, the fallacy that all programs make tons of money isn't true at all. Most barely break even.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 10:59 am to SoFla Tideroller
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You're right. They do. So, they have a choice to make. Play college football under the terms offered or, go out on their own and sell their NIL on the open market. Why are you against choice?
Cool, sounds just fine and dandy to me. Only thing I see may be an issue is it TAKES THE GAME BACK TO WHAT STATED THIS MESS. nitwit.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 11:10 am to ouflak
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I think a lot of people are underestimating the incredible potential represented if this settlement is actually successfully applied.
Probably because most of us believe that it won't be successfully applied. We are dealing with bureaucrats and politicians here.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 12:00 pm to koreandawg
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With the TV contracts and the amount of money the schools make, it was weird having these players sacrifice their bodies and get nothing but their education in return.
They don’t have to sacrifice anything, they could go work at McDonalds, which is likely where most of these guys would end up with their intellectual capabilities.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 12:01 pm to koreandawg
quote:You missed the "get your facts straight" class. I was stating facts and if you don't think this will be in flux for the next few years....then you missed the "logical outcomes" class also. This will be challenged by every athlete or possible athlete in the country. It's "pro sports" and that is a fact. They are using the college names...... in name only. If that's what it is (and it is) then just call it that and let any kid play. They are not student athletes as UNC proved years ago with their fake arse classes. It's a joke to call them 'student athletes' when technically they are just guys and girls attending a so-called class in most cases.
Again, you're complaining about something that was decided several years back
Posted on 6/7/25 at 12:18 pm to JCdawg
quote:Would you turn down all that money? What about the rest of you who are against paying athletes?
They don’t have to sacrifice anything, they could go work at McDonalds, which is likely where most of these guys would end up with their intellectual capabilities.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 12:23 pm to flagshipuniversity
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Why even call them students? There will soon be a lawsuit because some kid doesn't have the grades to get in, but he or she is athletic enough to play. They will be depriving those athletes an opportunity to play and earn money while the athletes are pretty much considered employees. Watch and see. It will happen. It's no longer 'college football' and there is a very strong argument to support that.
At some point, I can see athletic departments being completely separate from the academic side of the house. Or least the big revenue sports. Especially if venture capital gets involved.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 12:25 pm to Victor R Franko
yeah that's the solution.... the US government I think I've heard it all 
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