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re: 3+6 format

Posted on 11/17/22 at 3:10 pm to
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 3:10 pm to
Not so sure you have to think about the permanents being balance as long as the schedule is balanced. Even if you don’t have Bama or UGA as a permanent, you still will have to play at least 2 of.. LSU, OU, UF, UTa, AU, or T8&4

BAMA - AU, UT, LSU
ARK - USC, MIZZ, TEXAS
AU - BAMA, UGA, UF
UF - UGA, AU, UK
UGA - UF, AU, USC
UK - UT, UF, VU
LSU - A&M, BAMA, OM
OM - LSU, MSU, VU
MSU - OM, USC, OU
MIZZ - ARK, OU, TEXAS
OU - TEXAS, MIZZ, MSU
USC - ARK, UGA, MSU
UT - BAMA, UK, VU
TEXAS - OU, A&M, MIZZ
A&M - LSU, TEXAS, ARK
VU - UT, UK, OM
This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 3:11 pm
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15356 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 3:12 pm to
Oh my yes Wade. Obviously the other 6 rotating games will have huge implications.

Bama could face Texas, Oklahoma and the stinking Vols as part of the “other 6”. Pretty brutal.
Posted by ALhunter
Member since Dec 2018
2933 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

Tried to balance for “stronger and weaker” teams historically, only so much you can do there


We'll take Bama, Vandy, OM... or Bama, OM, Arky don't care that much about GA tbh...
This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 3:14 pm
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 3:13 pm to
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Would be easy to give Arkansas, 8&4feit, Texas and Oklahoma. Think that’s really fair?


arkansas currently plays bama/lsu/auburn every season. Is that fair? Your mindset is "arkansas isn't a good program so they shouldn't play too many hard games". It's the SEC, there are a lot of hard games and we're adding 2 more power programs. The reality is that when you play 9 games in the league they're going to be difficult pretty frequently.

So yes, I do think it's fair to preserve bama/ut in one of the best and most historic tradition rich rivalries int he history of this conference even if it means poor little arkansas has 1 of their 9 league games be a tougher one than it otherwise might be
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36506 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 3:16 pm to
I've got a theory that the SEC is just gonna throw a schedule out there, not do anything to regulate standings, and just punt the responsibility to the playoff committee.

Effectually, I think there are only going to be 8 teams eligible for the SECCG for the foreseeable future, because the committee is suspect.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

Dont want shitty aggy every year. Ole miss please

As a founding member we have a say



this... I want

Bama
Ole Miss
Fla

A&M should be
Texas
Ark
OU
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15356 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 3:17 pm to
I get what you’re saying there. But if you look at the permanent 3 there, Bama and Auburn are seriously disadvantaged in the perms versus Oklahoma’s for example.

I don’t even want to think about how convoluted getting the other 6 scheduled would be. It would have to be some sort of rotation which could seriously skew some in years.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15356 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 3:19 pm to
quote:

I've got a theory that the SEC is just gonna throw a schedule out there, not do anything to regulate standings, and just punt the responsibility to the playoff committee.
That wouldn’t shock me. A 12 team playoff would have 3-4 in consistently I think
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15356 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 3:21 pm to
quote:

arkansas currently plays bama/lsu/auburn every season. Is that fair? Your mindset is "arkansas isn't a good program so they shouldn't play too many hard games".
They’re a good program, but not an elite one historically in the sport. I tried to balance that as much as I could. The other 6 will unbalance things often enough anyway.
Posted by BreakawayZou83
Kansas City, Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
9443 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 3:22 pm to
Mizzou 1. Oklahoma 2. Arkansas 3. South Carolina
Oklahoma 1. Mizzou 2. Texas 3. Texas A&M
Texas 1. Texas A&M 2. Oklahoma 3. Arkansas
Texas A&M 1. Texas 2. Miss State 3. Oklahoma
Arkansas 1. LSU 2. Mizzou 3. Texas
LSU 1. Arkansas 2. Ole Miss 3. Florida
Ole Miss 1. Miss State 2. LSU 3. Alabama
Miss State 1. Ole Miss 2. Texas A&M 3. Auburn
Alabama 1. Auburn 2. Tennessee 3. Ole Miss
Auburn 1. Alabama 2. Georgia 3. Miss State
Tennessee 1. Vanderbilt 2. Alabama 3. Kentucky
Vanderbilt 1. Tennessee 2. Kentucky 3. Georgia
Kentucky 1. South Carolina 2. Vanderbilt 3. Tennessee
South Carolina 1. Kentucky 2. Florida 3. Mizzou
Georgia 1. Florida 2. Auburn 3. Vanderbilt
Florida 1. Georgia 2. South Carolina 3. LSU
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5212 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 3:24 pm to
But I don’t think they will use the permanents for balance, they aren’t now. The will use those to get as many traditional games locked as possible…. Then balance the schedule from there .
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15356 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 3:27 pm to
That one’s pretty good. I had Bama playing Miss State due to the close proximity between the schools. Either works about as well though.

With Texas and Oklahoma coming in, trying to get a new permanent opponent with one of the “Old SEC” I think would be a good idea
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5212 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 3:28 pm to
So , no offense ; but this tells me you aren’t looking at schools wants.

UGA is the easiest to decide.. they will Probly start from there..

UGA-AU is the longest running rival in the south..

UGA is UFs oldest rival and they are UGAs 3rd, plus the cocktail party so it’s a lock.

Finally they only Rival USC will demand is UGA, it’s their longest rivalry in the conference and almost as long as the Clemson rivalry. UGA and Clemson have to be in their schedule.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15356 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 3:31 pm to
Completely get what you’re saying.

I don’t think it’s possible to “balance from there” with the other 6 given a need to have some rotation.

There may be a way, I just don’t know how it would be possible
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 3:35 pm to
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looking at schools wants.


yeah I don't hve the time or desire to try to come up with my own mock but what you said is a good way to at least get a starting point. There are some that should be rock solid locks that MUST be kept then fill in the gaps from there. Ones that I would say must be preserved at any cost are below:

AL: AU, UT
AU: AL, UGA
LSU: Ole miss
MSU: Ole miss
OM: LSU, MSU
AM: Texas

UGA: AU, UF, SC
UF: UGA
UT: AL, Vandy
Mizz: OU
SC: UGA
Vandy: UT

TX: AM, OU
OU: Texas, Mizz

Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15356 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 3:38 pm to
Yes and no. I’m not giving them everything all of them want. Which is impossible.

If you look at UGA, those are the 3 permanents I have down. For the reasons given. Geographic, traditional, in Georgia’s case they all make perfect sense. That’s one of the few cases that really do the way I see it. Everyone has a different perspective, and frankly I find this format pretty interesting. A 4/5 might preserve more games, but be harder to rotate “the other 5”

We’re injecting 2 new teams in. We’re going to regenerate some old rivalry games. Why not inject some new?
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59599 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 3:41 pm to
Im not criticizing the effort man.

Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
17043 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 3:47 pm to
Kentucky wants Tennessee Vandy and South Carolina. The rest doesn't matter to me.
Posted by GatorBait24
Pensacola
Member since Jul 2016
5380 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 3:47 pm to
Florida needs to be Georgia, Tennessee, LSU or I’m out.
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
17043 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 3:51 pm to
I would think Florida would want Auburn back on their schedule permanently.
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