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re: 3 Sentenced in NCAA Basketball investigation

Posted on 3/5/19 at 7:46 pm to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 3/5/19 at 7:46 pm to
You seem to be following this very closely.
Posted by beachreb61
Long Beach, MS
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Posted on 3/5/19 at 8:36 pm to
Or they could just take the word of a rival player.
Posted by borotiger
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Posted on 3/5/19 at 8:49 pm to
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scam newton


With all the time in the world, that's your defense?
Posted by Cadello
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Posted on 3/5/19 at 8:51 pm to
Nice 3rd grade comeback.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 3/5/19 at 10:19 pm to
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With all the time in the world, that's your defense?
why should it not be?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/5/19 at 11:52 pm to
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The defense isn’t calling Will Wade as a character witness. My guess is that they’re wanting to muddy the waters with “everyone’s doing it.” If you think the defense is going to say “Do you know Mr. Dawkins? Do you think he’s a good guy?” You’re in for a bit of a letdown.


“Everyone does it” is completely irrelevant to the charges. They tried this tactic already in the last trial and the federal court judge wouldn’t let it in due to...you guessed it, relevance. I don’t foresee them being given much leeway with their questioning if Wade is ultimately called to testify.
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 5:21 am to
Yet Zion went to Duke for free, just like Cam went to Auburn.

Nothing to see here..
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 6:29 am to
Im actually surprised it was deemed irrelevant. The Feds are charging these guys with defrauding the schools. It’s kinda bogus. They weren’t defrauding the schools. They were acting on their behalf.
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 6:36 am to
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The defense isn’t calling Will Wade as a character witness. My guess is that they’re wanting to muddy the waters with “everyone’s doing it.


You don’t usually call witnesses for the defense to further implicate your client in wrongdoing. If that is the case, there are some really bad defense lawyers. The defendant doesn’t plead not guilty and go to trial only to try prove that, while he did the crime, others were involved. Presumably when one pleads not guilty and goes to trial, one is trying to establish innocence, not put on more evidence of guilt.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 7:53 am to
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Or they could just take the word of a rival player.


Or the cell phone of the booster who paid the rival player ……..and still couldn't sign him
Posted by Tiger365
Atlanta, GA
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 8:01 am to
I guess I will never understand how the FBI with the Russian investigation/Colusion and all whether true or false, has time to investigate kids getting paid to play basketball. Especially when they turn a blind eye to the kids at (insert school here) getting paid to play football, and the Tom, Nick, and Harrys of the league get away without public fanfare!

Posted by Philippines4LSU
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 8:05 am to
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You don’t usually call witnesses for the defense to further implicate your client in wrongdoing. If that is the case, there are some really bad defense lawyers. The defendant doesn’t plead not guilty and go to trial only to try prove that, while he did the crime, others were involved. Presumably when one pleads not guilty and goes to trial, one is trying to establish innocence, not put on more evidence of guilt.


Shhhh!

Let them believe Will Wade is going to be on trial.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 8:14 am to
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guess I will never understand how the FBI with the Russian investigation/Colusion and all whether true or false, has time to investigate kids getting paid to play basketball. Especially when they turn a blind eye to the kids at (insert school here) getting paid to play football, and the Tom, Nick, and Harrys of the league get away without public fanfare!


They pay attention to wire fraud, not recruiting College basketball just happens to be the biggest and dirtiest
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 8:16 am to
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Let them believe Will Wade is going to be on trial.


What he says (or doesn’t) will be bigger news than the court case that it’s about. Let yourself believe something else if you need to.
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 10:13 am to
So why is Wade being called? It isn’t to make Dawkins look guilty. Presumably Wade is being called because his testimony would help Dawkins defend the case and support the plea of not guilty.

While the press will be breathlessly awaiting his testimony, it is likely that it will be very anticlimactic.

P.S., I see where Dawkins’s lawyer supposedly says he is going to “pull back the curtain.” It just seems strange that he is trying to help his client by attempting to prove that his client is guilty, if that is what he means. How does implicating others help prove innocence? Seems like he is just digging his client a deeper hole.
This post was edited on 3/6/19 at 10:22 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 10:18 am to
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Why do you think the defense called him as a witness?

They didnt.

They have received preliminary notifications they will be subpoenaed in order to be possibly used in the case as a witness


Still a long way to see if they actually will be called to the stand
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 10:23 am to
You are correct about the subpoena. Of course the issue being debated is why the defense would be the one saying they intend to call Wade.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 10:25 am to
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Of course the issue being debated is why the defense would be the one saying they intend to call Wade.


quote:

Asked how many college coaches he wants to put on the witness stand, he didn't hesitate. "As many as I can get in the courtroom," Haney said. "We are going to pull back the curtains [on the sport].” The possibility for fireworks should make the second trial even more newsworthy than the first — and plenty of NCAA dirt emerged from that one.
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 10:39 am to
And how do these coaches help his client’s case? Is he trying to win the case by proving his client innocent, which usually why one pleads not guilty, or is he trying to find company for his client in jail when he is sentenced.
This post was edited on 3/6/19 at 10:40 am
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 11:16 am to
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And how do these coaches help his client’s case?


Mitigate the punishment, show he was just part of the system, etc...
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