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Posted on 11/17/20 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 11/17/20 at 12:30 pm
in the SEC the last 10 years is by far Hugh Freeze. Whoever lands him in the future will have a coach that might end up being one of the top two coaches in the country when Saban retires. He is not a "Jelly of the Month" type coach that many big programs go after. It would be ironic that the two best HC in the future both work in the State of SC.
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Posted on 11/17/20 at 12:34 pm to Irons Puppet
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He is not a "Jelly of the Month" type coach
that's almost exactly what he was at Ole Miss. He was going to be on the hot seat heading into 2018 after hiring Wes McGriff in 2016. He's a solid program builder but he was on the verge of back to back .500 or worse seasons at Ole Miss before he got fired.
This post was edited on 11/17/20 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 11/17/20 at 12:36 pm to Irons Puppet
I agree with you here, pardner. Freeze knows how to build a staff and then a program. SCar is crazy if they pass on him. Saban is going to retire in next 3-5 years. Hell, if he could win it this year, he might call it quits.
But the SEC East could get really interesting with Freeze at SCar. I am waiting to see what out Carolina Cheerleader Gal has got to say. You are up, CG.
But the SEC East could get really interesting with Freeze at SCar. I am waiting to see what out Carolina Cheerleader Gal has got to say. You are up, CG.
Posted on 11/17/20 at 12:38 pm to Irons Puppet
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in the SEC the last 10 years is by far Hugh Freeze
Can he keep the NCAA at bay this time though?
That's the real question.
Posted on 11/17/20 at 12:41 pm to Quicksilver
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that's almost exactly what he was at Ole Miss. He was going to be on the hot seat heading into 2018 after hiring Wes McGriff in 2016. He's a solid program builder but he was on the verge of back to back .500 or worse seasons at Ole Miss before he got fired.
One of the strangest things about Freeze was his bad record against Bert, 1-3 I believe
Granted, it was very close to being 2-2
Posted on 11/17/20 at 12:50 pm to Quicksilver
People forget, we are talking about Ole Miss. A program that usually doesn't have many recruits in the State of MS and are usually the 4th or 5th choice of a player in an adjacent state. In SC there a good recruits in SC and the surrounding states have enough talent for him to succeed.
Posted on 11/17/20 at 12:57 pm to Irons Puppet
Doesn’t matter where the recruits are when you have money to spend.
Posted on 11/17/20 at 12:58 pm to Irons Puppet
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People forget, we are talking about Ole Miss. A program that usually doesn't have many recruits in the State of MS and are usually the 4th or 5th choice of a player in an adjacent state
That actually sounds identical to South Carolina.
Posted on 11/17/20 at 1:00 pm to Irons Puppet
I love Lane and if it was guaranteed he would never leave, I would say pass on Freeze if we had the opportunity to rehire him
But we all know Lane will leave eventually and I truly think if by some miracle we ever got Freeze back to Oxford, he would never leave and we would win the West in his first 5-6 years.
But we all know Lane will leave eventually and I truly think if by some miracle we ever got Freeze back to Oxford, he would never leave and we would win the West in his first 5-6 years.
Posted on 11/17/20 at 1:01 pm to Irons Puppet
He cheated to win. Mullen did it the right way with very similar results.
Posted on 11/17/20 at 1:01 pm to DuckTalesLOL
Hugh is a good football coach and a sleaze ball. His history
speaks for him. Then again USCe is nothing but a schedule filler so they really don't have much risk since they will be hiring a new coach every 5 years for the most part.
Risk/Reward.
speaks for him. Then again USCe is nothing but a schedule filler so they really don't have much risk since they will be hiring a new coach every 5 years for the most part.
Risk/Reward.
Posted on 11/17/20 at 1:03 pm to Gatorbait2008
quote:Did nothing more than what other schools are doing.
He cheated to win.
quote:Yeah, Leo Lewis went to State for free. No money exchanged hands at all
Mullen did it the right way with very similar results.
Also, Mullen had possibly the worst record against teams who finished in the top 25. If you compare Freeze and Mullen's wins, Freeze was WAAAY more successful than Mullen
This post was edited on 11/17/20 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 11/17/20 at 1:10 pm to Gatorbait2008
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He cheated to win. Mullen did it the right way with very similar results.
It is wild there are still real people who think their school doesn’t cheat and everyone else does
Posted on 11/17/20 at 1:13 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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That actually sounds identical to South Carolina.
Like real estate, it is all about location, location, location. Oxford vs Columbia. Draw a 200 circle around each and see who has the most recruits.
Posted on 11/17/20 at 1:14 pm to BrerTiger
"Can he keep the NCAA at bay this time though?
That's the real question."
We would need to borrow Clemson's bag men and their church up there, but it could be done.
This post was edited on 11/17/20 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 11/17/20 at 1:18 pm to Quicksilver
quote:His recruiting was deceptively bad too.
that's almost exactly what he was at Ole Miss. He was going to be on the hot seat heading into 2018 after hiring Wes McGriff in 2016. He's a solid program builder but he was on the verge of back to back .500 or worse seasons at Ole Miss before he got fired.
Freeze can be a good coach if he gets out of his own way. His biggest challenge will be putting together an SEC quality coaching staff. Coaches don't respect him.
This post was edited on 11/17/20 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 11/17/20 at 1:19 pm to Irons Puppet
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Like real estate, it is all about location, location, location. Oxford vs Columbia. Draw a 200 circle around each and see who has the most recruits.
The access to talent is better for Carolina, but there is much more competition in Georgia and the Carolinas - most of the SEC, Clemson, UNC, Notre Dame, Ohio State.
Ole Miss has West Tennessee, Texas and Louisiana.
I get the general sentiment, but Carolina has to recruit against Clemson in-state (in a state that produces very similar elite players to Mississippi) and then go to Georgia and Florida and compete with Georgia, Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Florida, FSU, Miami, Ohio State, Notre Dame, etc.
There may be an advantage at Carolina, but it's not a huge one.
This post was edited on 11/17/20 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 11/17/20 at 1:22 pm to RebelExpress38
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It is wild there are still real people who think their school doesn’t cheat and everyone else does
I honestly believe that we don't... Or if we did the past 5 years... We are doing it all wrong!
Posted on 11/17/20 at 1:24 pm to Irons Puppet
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in the SEC the last 10 years is by far Hugh Freeze.
The dude never won his own division. I think overall the past 10 years 2nd has got to go to Gus or Kirby. Coach O would be in the mix if this season wasn’t this bad. You cant follow up a season like they had with this. No matter what the circumstances
Posted on 11/17/20 at 1:25 pm to UMRealist
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SEC quality coaching staff
Yeah I don't think he has the coaching contacts and network that most others do. He did carry over Tom Allen from Lambuth to Arkansas State and then on to Ole Miss. Same Tom Allen who now has Indiana football looking good. So I guess he happens upon some good ones and keeps them around when he finds them.
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