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RollTide1987
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247's Josh Pate with a hot take on a potential 8-team College Football Playoff
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Minority opinion today that will be majority opinion in 2030:

The BCS era was healthier for College Football than an 8-team playoff


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Smokeyone
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re: 247's Josh Pate with a hot take on a potential 8-team College Football Playoff
No expansion.


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re: 247's Josh Pate with a hot take on a potential 8-team College Football Playoff
I agree 100%


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TheXman
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re: 247's Josh Pate with a hot take on a potential 8-team College Football Playoff
8 team playoff would be worthless today with the power structure of college football as it is.

I mean this year we would have added Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Cincinnati, and a 4th team.

None of those teams would have touched Alabama.

The same would have happened with LSU the year before and Clemson the year before.



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re: 247's Josh Pate with a hot take on a potential 8-team College Football Playoff
Needs to be:

- ACC Champion
- SEC Champion
- B1G Champion
- Big XII Champion
- Pac 12 Champion
- At-Large
- At Large
- Best Group of 5

This year it would have been:

#1 Alabama vs #8 Oregon
#2 Clemson vs #7 Cincinnati
#3 Ohio State vs #6 Oklahoma
#4 Notre Dame vs #5 Texas A&M


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TomRollTideRitter
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re: 247's Josh Pate with a hot take on a potential 8-team College Football Playoff
Make the playoff as big or small as you want- unless rivalries, conference titles, just having a good record or bowls are considered important, college football will be on the decline.

It’s a sport too stacked at the top for it to be healthy to only focus on the national title.


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re: 247's Josh Pate with a hot take on a potential 8-team College Football Playoff
No postseason format would have prevented the Pac-12 from sucking as bad as they have the past decade. If USC ever gets its head out of its ass, all the crying of CFB becoming too regional will melt away
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I think the only reasonable outcome that preserves the competition in college football is allowing some of the guys who have no business even going to college football the option to go straight to the League.


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re: 247's Josh Pate with a hot take on a potential 8-team College Football Playoff
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- ACC Champion
- SEC Champion
- B1G Champion
- Big XII Champion
- Pac 12 Champion



AQ is shity.


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Pac 12 Champion


No

I never thought I would say this, but the Power 5 is really a Power 4 + 1 and the PAC 12 is the +1.


viceman
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re: 247's Josh Pate with a hot take on a potential 8-team College Football Playoff
I don't really care. I guess it makes for more good matchups at the end of the year. It would change nothing from a controversial perspective, however. Instead of the biggest debate being number 4, it would be number 8. And number 9 will be the most pissed just like number 5 is now.
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TomRollTideRitter
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re: 247's Josh Pate with a hot take on a potential 8-team College Football Playoff
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Needs to be:

- ACC Champion
- SEC Champion
- B1G Champion
- Big XII Champion
- Pac 12 Champion
- At-Large
- At Large
- Best Group of 5


I’m not opposed to this, but I don’t really see what it accomplishes. There seems to be this myth that if teams are just included in a playoff, everything will be fixed. I distinctly remember when we played Washington though, there was little to no belief amongst their fans.

Without major rule changes to increase competition, a singular focus on the national championship/“Who’s in,” is unhealthy for CFB regardless of the size of the playoff.

Even only considering the P5, the reality is most programs are not playing for national titles and never will be.


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re: 247's Josh Pate with a hot take on a potential 8-team College Football Playoff
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AQ is shity.


Winning your conference should mean something.


RollTide1987
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re: 247's Josh Pate with a hot take on a potential 8-team College Football Playoff
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It’s a sport too stacked at the top for it to be healthy to only focus on the national title.


This.

I realize being #1 has always been the ultimate goal of most college football programs - particularly from the beginning of the Poll Era and onward - but the media never really put as much emphasis on the national championship as they have done so in the last 15 years or so. The first step toward the decline of college football as we know it occurred when the BCS created a national championship game separate from the bowls for the 2006-07 season. It thus placed less emphasis on the other BCS bowls and made the national championship game the absolute center of attention.

Creating a four-team playoff in the aftermath of the 2011 college football season was a reactionary move and probably the move that ultimately kills the sport for good. Because not since the first season of the CFP has there been a truly national playoff. It's basically become the Alabama/SEC invitational.


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paperwasp
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re: 247's Josh Pate with a hot take on a potential 8-team College Football Playoff
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The BCS era was healthier for College Football

They abandoned the BCS partly because they would never reveal the complete formula, but mainly because the SEC won 9 out of the 16 years (56%). The closest were the Big 12 and ACC with 2 wins each.

Since that time, with the CFP, the SEC has won 4 out of 7 (57%).

Maybe instead of bitching about the system, the other conferences need to nut the frick up and field better teams.


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diddlydawg7
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re: 247's Josh Pate with a hot take on a potential 8-team College Football Playoff
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I’m not opposed to this, but I don’t really see what it accomplishes.


- The 5 auto bids gives less power to the committee, which is a major complaint.
- Group of 5 gets a team, which they have been complaining about for years
- Punishes ND for not joining a conference
- Winning your conference means something

Not to mention it increases entertainment value. It brings some of the aspects of March Madness to football. For example the ACC championship. Let’s say we have a #3 Clemson vs #11 North Carolina matchup. If UNC wins, they’re in.

It’s better when both teams are playing for a spot in the playoff instead of one of them playing for a better bowl game.
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viceman
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re: 247's Josh Pate with a hot take on a potential 8-team College Football Playoff
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Winning your conference should mean something.



I assume you mean winning a P5 conference. I'm not against the idea, but I suspect most years the final four will end up with the usual suspects. But more football to get there means more fun getting there.
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viceman
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re: 247's Josh Pate with a hot take on a potential 8-team College Football Playoff
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- The 5 auto bids gives less power to the committee, which is a major complaint.
- Group of 5 gets a team, which they have been complaining about for years
- Punishes ND for not joining a conference
- Winning your conference means something

Not to mention it increases entertainment value. It brings some of the aspects of March Madness to football. For example the ACC championship. Let’s say we have a #3 Clemson vs #11 North Carolina matchup. If UNC wins, they’re in.


ok you've convinced me, I now suport this
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diddlydawg7
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re: 247's Josh Pate with a hot take on a potential 8-team College Football Playoff
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but I suspect most years the final four will end up with the usual suspects.


I don’t think that’s true. Look at the matchups I laid out.

You really think Notre Dame beats Texas A&M 9/10 times? With the way Oklahoma was playing down the stretch, would they lose to Ohio State 90% of the time? If the answer to either of those questions is no, then it’s a good thing for football.


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