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deltaland
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re: 2020 early preseason SP+ ranking according to this ESPN analyst
On what basis should Miami and Nebraska be ranked top 25?


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Arksulli
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re: 2020 early preseason SP+ ranking according to this ESPN analyst
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25. Nebraska 12.5 39.2 (10) 26.7 (55)




Frost really needs, if not a big year, than an above average year at Nebraska. He has underwhelmed in an underwhelming division and I am fairly sure that quite a few Nebraska fans recall Frost mocking Joe Burrow instead of signing him when Joe would have walked through hell covered in gasoline to play for the Cornhuskers.


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BobLeeDagger
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re: 2020 early preseason SP+ ranking according to this ESPN analyst
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#25 teams typically go 8-5, so this is basically saying they improve by 2-3 wins. Seems pretty reasonable.



It's far from reasonable. Nebraska hasn't won 6 games in 3 years. They have no business being in the top 25.


JesusQuintana
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re: 2020 early preseason SP+ ranking according to this ESPN analyst
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#19 Tennessee


LOL


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SummerOfGeorge
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re: 2020 early preseason SP+ ranking according to this ESPN analyst
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It's far from reasonable. Nebraska hasn't won 6 games in 3 years. They have no business being in the top 25.



(a) This isn't a voters Top 25, it's a model

(b) Results from 2017 and 2018 are pretty irrelevant, especially when 2017 was a totally different coaching staff and 2018 was a 1st year head coach


I'm not telling you Nebraska will go 8-5. I am telling you that it is reasonable to see a team that went 5-7 and lost 4 of those games by less than a touchdown, see that they return literally their entire offensive production in year 3 of a coach and think they might improve by 1-2 wins.

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David Ricky
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re: 2020 early preseason SP+ ranking according to this ESPN analyst
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19. Tennessee 14.7 29.5 (56) 14.8 (7)




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BHMKyle
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re: 2020 early preseason SP+ ranking according to this ESPN analyst
BREAKING: Bama grad comes up with convoluted formula to make Bama #1


SummerOfGeorge
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re: 2020 early preseason SP+ ranking according to this ESPN analyst
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Bama grad


Pretty sure Bill Connelly went to Missouri


BHMKyle
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re: 2020 early preseason SP+ ranking according to this ESPN analyst
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Nebraska literally returns their entire offense - like 99% of their production at all positions from a 5-7 team that lost 4 games by 1 possession or less.



Yeah but some of those losses were to teams like Colorado (5-7) and Purdue (4-8). Who cares if 99% of the production comes back if that production is not any good?

The Huskers were blown out in most every game they played against a quality team:

Lost to Ohio State 48-7
Lost to Wisconsin 37-21
Lost to Minnesota 34-7

Nebraska was not a good team last year. Not even close. Aside from losing to Colorado and Purdue, they only beat Northwester (3-9) by a field goal. Their game against South Alabama was way closer than it should have been considering USA had one lone FBS win.

There is obviously too much weight in % of production coming back in this formula. If the starters were horrible, % of production is not relevant.


SummerOfGeorge
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re: 2020 early preseason SP+ ranking according to this ESPN analyst
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Nebraska was not a good team last year. Not even close. Aside from losing to Colorado and Purdue, they only beat Northwester (3-9) by a field goal. Their game against South Alabama was way closer than it should have been considering USA had one lone FBS win.

There is obviously too much weight in % of production coming back in this formula. If the starters were horrible, % of production is not relevant.


Teams that finish ranked #25 aren't good teams, either, generally.

Their schedule is

Purdue
Central Michigan
South Dakota St
Cincinnati
@ Northwestern
Illinois
@ Rutgers
@ Ohio State
Penn State
@ Iowa
@ Wisconsin
Minnesota

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There is obviously too much weight in % of production coming back in this formula. If the starters were horrible, % of production is not relevant.



Their offense was 4th in the B10 in YPP in conference games and 7th in scoring. They return every single bit of it.

I don't think anybody is saying they are going to win the Big Ten, but going 7-5 or 8-4 isn't insane.


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RollTide1987
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re: 2020 early preseason SP+ ranking according to this ESPN analyst
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Not true, this is recency bias.


Meh. It's been true for the last decade or so. There have been a few exceptions, the most notable of which were the 2011 Auburn Tigers. They won the national championship in 2010 but were ranked #23 in the 2011 pre-season AP poll.



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BobLeeDagger
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re: 2020 early preseason SP+ ranking according to this ESPN analyst
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I am telling you that it is reasonable to see a team that went 5-7 and lost 4 of those games by less than a touchdown, see that they return literally their entire offensive production in year 3 of a coach and think they might improve by 1-2 wins.




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I'm not telling you Nebraska will go 8-5.


It's reasonable, but you won't call it? No chest.


SummerOfGeorge
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re: 2020 early preseason SP+ ranking according to this ESPN analyst
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It's reasonable, but you won't call it? No chest.






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olgoi khorkhoi
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re: 2020 early preseason SP+ ranking according to this ESPN analyst
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I try not to put too much stock in these



Why wouldn't you put stock in rankings that had 2-loss Alabama at #2 and undefeated LSU at #3 after the SEC championpionship game and who's final rankings had Ohio State at #1 and LSU #2?
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jatebe
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re: 2020 early preseason SP+ ranking according to this ESPN analyst
Wow, Bama plays 6 teams in the top 25. 2 of them in the first 3 games.



FearlessFreep
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re: 2020 early preseason SP+ ranking according to this ESPN analyst
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Wow, Bama plays 6 teams in the top 25. 2 of them in the first 3 games.
Eh, AU plays #1, #4, #6, #10, #17 and #28. No sympathy from us.


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TheeRealCarolina
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re: 2020 early preseason SP+ ranking according to this ESPN analyst
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From a 5-7 team...


Offense wasn’t their problem.


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CNB
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re: 2020 early preseason SP+ ranking according to this ESPN analyst
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Pretty sure Bill Connelly went to Missouri


Takes less than a minute to look this up but people would still rather just throw shite at the wall and hope it sticks

Amazing to me


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TrueLefty
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re: 2020 early preseason SP+ ranking according to this ESPN analyst
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I believe UGA Defense should be filthy this year... I just hope our offense can turn a corner




Arkansas fans says Chad Morris is legit!


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mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
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re: 2020 early preseason SP+ ranking according to this ESPN analyst
Welp the SP+ and ESPN Power ratings had LSU fourth even after beating all the team ahead of them.

There is no way that the Alabama offense with MAC Jones is the number 1 offense and 30 vs LSU 23.

The supposed great/filthy Georgia defense that LSU torched 36 to 16 and then 37 to 10 in back to back years is not twice as good as the next defense.

Based on Play on the field Florida is better than Clemson. Cannot imagine that Penn State is the 5th best team. Penn State has not beaten a top ten team in several years.

Georgia and Bama play early. Clemson plays no one again. Georgia and Bama play three tough games. Bama does open with USC not Bama fault they are mediocre. LSU and Auburn play 5.

Whatever.. do not care about these ratings ESPN and SP+ were pretty far off last year.


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