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2015 Bama defense and QB
Posted on 7/28/15 at 9:16 am
Posted on 7/28/15 at 9:16 am
I'm curious about an honest assessment from Alabama fans/alumni concerning these two facets of your team this year.
I've heard rumblings that this could be one of Bama's all time greatest defenses they have put on the field with the front 7 being completely stacked. Obviously, if that's the case then you will be in every game and tough to beat. The QB is a question mark for sure, but you've shown you can overcome it recently, and Saban always has someone who can get the team into the right plays.
I find it hard to believe you'd field a D better than 2011. I think people are thinking Bama will be down more than they actually will be. What's the rumblings about that over there?
I've heard rumblings that this could be one of Bama's all time greatest defenses they have put on the field with the front 7 being completely stacked. Obviously, if that's the case then you will be in every game and tough to beat. The QB is a question mark for sure, but you've shown you can overcome it recently, and Saban always has someone who can get the team into the right plays.
I find it hard to believe you'd field a D better than 2011. I think people are thinking Bama will be down more than they actually will be. What's the rumblings about that over there?
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Posted on 7/28/15 at 9:24 am to 0jersey
No qb, d with holes to drive battleship through.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 9:25 am to 0jersey
Lol. No one has said such a thing about the defense.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 9:34 am to 0jersey
Alabama will be very good
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Posted on 7/28/15 at 9:41 am to 0jersey
Until I see actual improvement in our secondary, then I refuse to believe that our defense will be championship level.
QB worries me. We can't trot out a "game manager" like we did in 2008/2009 and expect to win any kind of title. The game has changed since then. If Coker hasn't separated himself by the time the season starts, then we'll should start Cornwell. Both of those guys could either be good or bad.
We also have to navigate a tough schedule in late September through October. There are a few games where some teams could catch us at the right time.
QB worries me. We can't trot out a "game manager" like we did in 2008/2009 and expect to win any kind of title. The game has changed since then. If Coker hasn't separated himself by the time the season starts, then we'll should start Cornwell. Both of those guys could either be good or bad.
We also have to navigate a tough schedule in late September through October. There are a few games where some teams could catch us at the right time.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 9:45 am to 0jersey
The front 7 will be the best in the country, and the deepest in the country. Our second team defensive line group starts at 90% of the teams in the country.
The quarterback and secondary are question marks. Could be great, could be terrible. We won't really know until the leaves start to change colors.
The quarterback and secondary are question marks. Could be great, could be terrible. We won't really know until the leaves start to change colors.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 10:08 am to 0jersey
I don't know about defense I thinkvthe DB's will be the biggest question mark. If they are solid the rest of the D should be good.
As far as QB, I think we will see Coker used more like McElroy was used, as a utility QB that will manage the game. Has a great arm but we just don't know how good he is until we see him play.
As far as QB, I think we will see Coker used more like McElroy was used, as a utility QB that will manage the game. Has a great arm but we just don't know how good he is until we see him play.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 10:16 am to BamaScoop
The qb situation has never worried me with Saban being that he has won multiple titles with inferior qbs before. The defense has to be more than good though. The front seven on this years defense is looking good, but the secondary is the problem as it has been for the past two years. Not having elite cbs in 2013 and 2014 cost Bama legitmate shots at championships. They have 3 5* corners now and some highly rated guys at the safety position. If the secondary can hold up, Bama will be in the title hunt again.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 10:24 am to 0jersey
Regarding the D:
We have 10 guys to rotate in on the DLine without a drop-off. We'll be much more athletic at linebacker, particularly inside, compared to last year. Front 7 will be nasty.
In the secondary, Cyrus Jones has simply continued to improve and is very good, albiet short, and apparently Tony Brown and Marlon Humphrey have taken the next step. Bradley Sylve, Maurice Smith, and Anthony Everett will be in the mix/shoring up numbers at CB/Star. Moving Eddie Jackson to Safety was genius, and he together with Geno Smith should make up the starting 2. Throw in Jabriel Washington, Lawrence Jones, and Ronnie Harrison, and the numbers are great.
The reason I mentioned nearly everyone in the secondary by name is that going into last year, our secondary was a pot-luck mix of unknowns and youth (particularly at Corner). This year, not so much. We'd love to be a smidge better on the numbers game, but the group is oozing with talent. Couple said talent with a revamped secondary coaching staff (Guy from the Bears), and we should see a marked improvement from last year.
Simply put IMO, I don't know that we'll be on the level of 2011 (cause they're in the argument for best D ever assembled), but we should be very, very good on that side of the ball and straight nasty up front. All info from spring camp and off-season points to that.
Regarding the QB:
Just because the starter is unknown to fans at this juncture has no bearing on how well the eventual starter plays. Additionally, Bama's proven the ability to win championships with first year starters. Furthermore, Kiffin's system is very QB friendly, in that it's a lot of short passing stuff to get the ball to playmakers in space.
I fundamentally disagree with the earlier poster who claimed we needed more than a game manager. I think that's exactly what we need (although I think it's a misnomer at it's core). We need a QB to be a decent leader, make the right pre-snap reads, not turn it over, and distribute the rock to our playmakers. He will not have to win games by himself. We have lots of playmakers, and our OLine by all accounts will be much improved from last year, particularly in the run game, so look for the RB to be featured a bit more this year.
In short, I believe we have definitely 2 guys, and maybe a third guy who can do what we ask. And us not knowing who it is means nothing. Hell, Coker led the first O on multiple scoring drives on the first D in the Spring game and looked good. My money's on him. But Cornwell could emerge as well.
There's a difference between waiting to choose a starter among multiple capable candidates, and waiting to choose a starter from a group without talent. Bama is firmly in the former.
Roll Tide.
We have 10 guys to rotate in on the DLine without a drop-off. We'll be much more athletic at linebacker, particularly inside, compared to last year. Front 7 will be nasty.
In the secondary, Cyrus Jones has simply continued to improve and is very good, albiet short, and apparently Tony Brown and Marlon Humphrey have taken the next step. Bradley Sylve, Maurice Smith, and Anthony Everett will be in the mix/shoring up numbers at CB/Star. Moving Eddie Jackson to Safety was genius, and he together with Geno Smith should make up the starting 2. Throw in Jabriel Washington, Lawrence Jones, and Ronnie Harrison, and the numbers are great.
The reason I mentioned nearly everyone in the secondary by name is that going into last year, our secondary was a pot-luck mix of unknowns and youth (particularly at Corner). This year, not so much. We'd love to be a smidge better on the numbers game, but the group is oozing with talent. Couple said talent with a revamped secondary coaching staff (Guy from the Bears), and we should see a marked improvement from last year.
Simply put IMO, I don't know that we'll be on the level of 2011 (cause they're in the argument for best D ever assembled), but we should be very, very good on that side of the ball and straight nasty up front. All info from spring camp and off-season points to that.
Regarding the QB:
Just because the starter is unknown to fans at this juncture has no bearing on how well the eventual starter plays. Additionally, Bama's proven the ability to win championships with first year starters. Furthermore, Kiffin's system is very QB friendly, in that it's a lot of short passing stuff to get the ball to playmakers in space.
I fundamentally disagree with the earlier poster who claimed we needed more than a game manager. I think that's exactly what we need (although I think it's a misnomer at it's core). We need a QB to be a decent leader, make the right pre-snap reads, not turn it over, and distribute the rock to our playmakers. He will not have to win games by himself. We have lots of playmakers, and our OLine by all accounts will be much improved from last year, particularly in the run game, so look for the RB to be featured a bit more this year.
In short, I believe we have definitely 2 guys, and maybe a third guy who can do what we ask. And us not knowing who it is means nothing. Hell, Coker led the first O on multiple scoring drives on the first D in the Spring game and looked good. My money's on him. But Cornwell could emerge as well.
There's a difference between waiting to choose a starter among multiple capable candidates, and waiting to choose a starter from a group without talent. Bama is firmly in the former.
Roll Tide.
This post was edited on 7/28/15 at 10:28 am
Posted on 7/28/15 at 10:44 am to prevatt33
That is clearly an unbiased breakdown. 
not saying that you are wrong because i would give you the same optimist opinion of our LSU team at this point, i just thought it was funny.
i also think that your hopes for your secondary is equivalent to LSU fans hopeing that our Dline steps up. yes we have the talent at the position but until they actually prove they can play, crowning them as improved is pretty suspect.
just my 2 cents, and i do believe that bama will be as good next year as theyve been in years past so this isnt really a flame.
not saying that you are wrong because i would give you the same optimist opinion of our LSU team at this point, i just thought it was funny.
i also think that your hopes for your secondary is equivalent to LSU fans hopeing that our Dline steps up. yes we have the talent at the position but until they actually prove they can play, crowning them as improved is pretty suspect.
just my 2 cents, and i do believe that bama will be as good next year as theyve been in years past so this isnt really a flame.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 11:15 am to prevatt33
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prevatt33
Usually when you come across good punctuation on this site the post is rather informative and most of the times unbiased, but holy shite balls. STFU already
"10 guys to rotate...without a drop-off"
Posted on 7/28/15 at 11:31 am to 0jersey
I'd be willing to bet that Bama has the best defense in the SEC this year. Coker will surprise and the OL will be much better. We have skill positions that are on par with anyone's. Bama is gonna Bama again.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 11:45 am to Eric4Tide
I think Bama will be so tough up front it will make up for the secondary. I also think QB won't be an issue. I'm not buying the Auburn love. If LSU pans out (more of a stretch than Bama panning out) then it will be between us. I think auburn is a year away on defense. I do think Arkansas will be tough as well.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 1:05 pm to 0jersey
Agree. Between LSU and Bama the team with better QB production wins the west. And yes, Arkansas is gonna be a beast.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 1:23 pm to Broken Ear Glen
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Usually when you come across good punctuation on this site the post is rather informative and most of the times unbiased, but holy shite balls. STFU already
"10 guys to rotate...without a drop-off"
I am literally passing on what Saban said just a few days after SEC Media Days on ESPN. He literally said of the DLine, "I think we've got 10 guys there who can play." The "without a drop-off" is my paraphrasing due to lack of context.
Spin my post all you want, but it's straight from Saban's mouth.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 1:27 pm to 0jersey
One think Blake Sims did so well, and didn't get a lot of credit for, was throwing the deep ball where people could catch it. AJ would throw a couple of those passes a game and there wouldn't be anybody within 10 yards of the ball. If whoever we have at QB, can throw the deep ball accurately, and keep the safeties back because of it, will be successful. If the opposition can cover our deep threats one on one because we never hit the deep ball anyway, we will struggle.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 1:33 pm to ArabianKnight
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One think Blake Sims did so well, and didn't get a lot of credit for, was throwing the deep ball where people could catch it. AJ would throw a couple of those passes a game and there wouldn't be anybody within 10 yards of the ball. If whoever we have at QB, can throw the deep ball accurately, and keep the safeties back because of it, will be successful. If the opposition can cover our deep threats one on one because we never hit the deep ball anyway, we will struggle.
You could literally substitute LSU for Bama here (except for our AJ "did so well" part) and would be the same thing. Someone posted above that whoever gets the better QB play between us 2 will win the west. Also think Arky and Auburn have a shot too but is more a question on the defensive side.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 1:36 pm to JGTiger
I concur with many above who believe Arky to be legit and dangerous. Actually, I think Arky is a much more complete team than auburn, who is half a team once again.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 2:59 pm to 0jersey
I think our D is going to be nasty, and I think our secondary will be improved. Tony Brown will be a star at CB, and Cyrus Jones will probably be all-SEC. Moving Eddie Jackson to safety is huge, IMO. That is his natural position, and he should be a monster at the position. Ronnie Harrison is a true freshman who is poised to make an immediate impact. He showed out in our spring game, right out of high school. He will be a beast.
Nothing really even needs to be said about the front 7. They are going to be a force.
The QB is definitely a question mark, but I grow more confident as the season approaches. The guys we have have impressive arms, they just need to be able to run the show. They've all been in the system now for long enough to be able to grasp it, so we'll see.
Nothing really even needs to be said about the front 7. They are going to be a force.
The QB is definitely a question mark, but I grow more confident as the season approaches. The guys we have have impressive arms, they just need to be able to run the show. They've all been in the system now for long enough to be able to grasp it, so we'll see.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 3:20 pm to 0jersey
defense: above average
qb: who knows
what is known: if drake or henry get hurt, it could be disastrous
qb: who knows
what is known: if drake or henry get hurt, it could be disastrous
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