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re: 2001 Miami most overrated team in history.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 7:26 am to TheFourHorsemen
Posted on 8/13/21 at 7:26 am to TheFourHorsemen
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Miami fans claim there was 40 plus players drafted off that team. If they were so loaded why did they only won 1 title in 2001 why not 2000 or 2002.
To be fair, the 2000 Miami team was screwed by the BCS. They should have gotten in over Florida State, and they most likely would have beaten Oklahoma. The 01 and 02 teams were coached by Larry Coker, the fact they won every game up until the Ohio St game (which they should have won) shows just how talented those teams were.
The 2001 Miami was loaded with future NFL pro bowlers. Not just NFL draft picks, not just NFL starters, NFL pro bowlers. That team is the closest to an NFL team you will see in college football. They won in spite of their coach.
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Posted on 8/13/21 at 7:34 am to TheFourHorsemen
Y’all can just say you don’t remember the 2001 Miami team. It’s fine. If you watched them, you know they were fricking crazy.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 7:36 am to Brisketeer
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They had 4 top 10 teams in 1995.
Kansas, K-State, and Colorado were supposed to be the big fish in 1995. And Oklahoma's program was broken. The big 8 was a joke, as far as SOS is concerned. They were just playing themselves. Florida was built for that humiliation. Spurrier wanted to outscore the world in his fun and gun. All finesse not much power. He learned a valuable lesson in that game. To legitimately run the ball, it means more than running draws.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 7:37 am to Tackle74
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I hate and I mean hate Nebraska even worse then Kansas but damn dude they played 4 top 10 teams and won by an average of almost 31 points.
When Kansas, Kansas State and Colorado are the best teams you play in the regular season, I’m not impressed. A lot of historically great teams would have throttled ‘95 Nebraska’s schedule.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 7:47 am to Chimlim
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The 2001 Miami was loaded with future NFL pro bowlers. Not just NFL draft picks, not just NFL starters, NFL pro bowlers. That team is the closest to an NFL team you will see in college football. They won in spite of their coach.
The Legendary status of that particular team hasn't come from the 2001 season but from the NFL draft, NFL careers.
Take away the NFL careers, take away the big NFL names…you have a great team that took care of business vs a soft schedule!
Overrated SEASON: Yes
Overrated Team Talent / NFL careers: No
This post was edited on 8/13/21 at 8:45 am
Posted on 8/13/21 at 7:54 am to Globetrotter747
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When Kansas, Kansas State and Colorado are the best teams you play in the regular season, I’m not impressed. A lot of historically great teams would have throttled ‘95 Nebraska’s schedule.
They aren't even the best Nebraska team. The 1971 Cornhuskers were more accomplished and had more elite talent. Frazier couldn't throw the ball and Lawrence was not confusing anyone with the best of the best.
In 1971 they won the "game of the century" against Oklahoma in Norman. Oklahoma truly had a great program that year with Gregg Pruitt, a Heisman candidate, and QB Jack Mildren and coached by Chuck Fairbanks.
Nebraska was absolutely loaded with star players, with Jerry Tagge and Heisman winner, Johhny Rogers, and they went on to play an undefeated Alabama team in the Orange Bowl and destroyed them for the national championship. Oklahoma played auburn and destroyed them.
That was the year for the big 8 in all their glory. And that was the best Nebraska team coached by Bob Devaney.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 8:11 am to TheFourHorsemen
This thread will be a quick detour for Alabama and aggy fans on this board.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 10:14 am to Globetrotter747
Let’s just say 1995 may have had the biggest gap between the #1 team and the #2 team
And the #2 team tore up the SEC along with 1 loss Tennessee and powerful FSU of the ACC
And the #2 team tore up the SEC along with 1 loss Tennessee and powerful FSU of the ACC
Posted on 8/13/21 at 10:16 am to bamameister
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Kansas, K-State, and Colorado were supposed to be the big fish in 1995.
You clearly aren't that old because Colorado was one of the five best programs in the country in the mid-90s. They were national champions in 1990 and almost won the whole thing in 1989. They were a solid program until the rape scandal hit in the early-00s and led to a de-emphasis in sports as a result. Kansas State was at the beginning of their run of dominance under Dan Snyder and Kansas was just having a good year.
Who cares if these teams aren't hot shite in 2021? They were in 1995 and that's all that matters for the purposes of this discussion. The fact of the matter is, all four of these schools showed out against their opponents in their bowl games. Nebraska beat the piss out of #2 Florida in the Fiesta Bowl (62-24), Colorado crushed #12 Oregon in the Cotton Bowl (38-6), Kansas State destroyed Colorado State in the Holiday Bowl (54-21), and Kansas routed UCLA in the Aloha Bowl (51-30).
The Big 8 was the strongest conference in 1995. No questions asked.
This post was edited on 8/13/21 at 10:18 am
Posted on 8/13/21 at 10:22 am to TheFourHorsemen
2019 LSU had the most accomplished season ever.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 10:27 am to TheFourHorsemen
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2002 they got screwed but talent wise they should have beaten OSU by 24.
Then by your own defintion they were a talented team.
They won 1 and should have 1 another if not for the referee calling the PI penalty.
So, 2 championships in 2001 and 2002 and they went 11-1 in 2000.
You must be a kid because in 2001 that team was one of the best ever.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 11:57 am to RollTide1987
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You clearly aren't that old because Colorado was one of the five best programs in the country in the mid-90s.
Hell, I played college football in the mid/late ‘90s.
I’m not impressed with Kansas, Kansas State and Colorado - who all beat Iowa State about ten times that year.
‘95 Nebraska was great. I’m not saying they weren’t, but they had a soft schedule. The Big 8 was a joke in the ‘90s after Switzer left OU.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 12:16 pm to Globetrotter747
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Hell, I played college football in the mid/late ‘90s.
I’m not impressed with Kansas, Kansas State and Colorado
Kansas State finished ranked in the top 20 8 straight years from 1993-2000, then again in 2002-2003. They finished in the top 10 in 1995, 1997-2000, and 2002. They were a really good program back then. Michael Bishop was a consensus all-american, won the Davey Obrien award, and was the runner-up for the Hiesman in 1998 to Ricky Willianms.
Colorado finished ranked in the top 20 8 straight seasons from 1989-1996 and finished in the top 5 in 1989-1990 and 1994-1995, finished 8th in 1996. They also won the national title in 1990
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The Big 8 was a joke in the ‘90s after Switzer left OU.
So three teams were generally in or right outside the top 10 in an 8 team conference, and you think the conference was a joke because Oklahoma took a step back? Oklahoma still finished ranked in 1990, 1991, and 1993.
So from 1989-1995 before the Big 12 was formed, the Big 8 had half it's teams ranked inside the top 20 almost every year. That's not a bad conference IMO. I think you're trying to take who the historically good programs are and/or who is good now and applying that to the relevant time period here.
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but they had a soft schedule
Played a Nick Saban coached Michigan State team that was getting pretty good OOC. Also played Arizona State OOC. they weren't great but bowl eligible. Tehn they played 3 top 10 teams in their conference and blew all of them out before completely embarrassing #2 Florida in the Fiesta Bowl. Having 4 top 10 teams on your schedule in a 12 game season isn't the hardest schedule of all time but it isn't soft either.
This post was edited on 8/13/21 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 8/13/21 at 12:37 pm to dstone12
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This thread will be a quick detour for Alabama and aggy fans on this board.
It's your fans that keep trying to imply 1995 Nebraska and 2001 Miami were shitty teams, not us.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 12:40 pm to lsufball19
Don't worry about the facts, globetrotter redshirted the 1997 season at Arkansas Tech and feels K-State, KU and Colorado weren't shite in 1995. So that's a wrap.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 12:43 pm to TheFourHorsemen
Their 3rd string churned out NFL list a mile long.
Not overrated.
Not overrated.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 2:12 pm to RoscoeHarper
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Don't worry about the facts, globetrotter redshirted the 1997 season at Arkansas Tech and feels K-State, KU and Colorado weren't shite in 1995. So that's a wrap.
Kansas, KSU and Colorado each beat Iowa State ten times in ‘95. None of those teams had to go anywhere like Tuscaloosa, Athens, Auburn, Gainesville, etc.
Nebraska probably goes undefeated through the SEC in 1995, but they would have had a tougher time with it in more hostile environments on a regular basis and more teams capable of beating them in an inspired effort.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 2:19 pm to Globetrotter747
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None of those teams had to go anywhere like Tuscaloosa, Athens, Auburn, Gainesville, etc.
Georgia was 6-6 in 1995. Auburn was 8-4. Alabama was 8-3. No one in the SEC had more than 8 wins in 1995 other than Florida and Tennessee. I think Nebraska would have been fine. You really need to stop trying to apply what programs are now to what they were in 1995. The SEC wasn't the best conference in football in 1995. It honestly was about on par, maybe even worse, than the Big 8. The big 8 had 4 10 win, top 10 teams in 1995. The SEC had 2. The big 8 played everyone in their conference, meaning teams couldn't dodge any of the other good teams
This post was edited on 8/13/21 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 8/13/21 at 2:31 pm to TheFourHorsemen
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Miami fans claim there was 40 plus players drafted off that team
All of their fans ????...that would be three....
Posted on 8/13/21 at 2:31 pm to MizzouTrue
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Let’s just say 1995 may have had the biggest gap between the #1 team and the #2 team
And the #2 team tore up the SEC along with 1 loss Tennessee and powerful FSU of the ACC
This.
#1 Nebraska crushed #2 Florida by the score of 62-24.
Tennessee finished ranked #3 with an 11-1 record. Their only loss was to Florida and Florida destroyed them by the score of 62-37. Florida State finished #4 and they got beat by Florida by the score of 35-24.
There wasn't a single team in college football who would have stayed within two scores of Nebraska that year.
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