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Posted on 8/29/26 at 4:48 pm to JoeyBiscuits
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That's pretty hyperbolic
How so? Where does the NCAA gain the authority to prevent it based on these rulings?
It seems apparent the only way anything gets fixed is if that bill passes, and who knows what's actually in it, or what will be put in it before it passes.
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This all started with money. While as a fan, college ball was better and more fun to watch prior to the NIL era in my opinion; However, as an objective viewer, there was no reason for these conferences and the NCAA to be profiting hundreds of millions of dollars while the athletes bringing in the money were tossed crumbs. (And yes, college tuition, books and room/board are crumbs compared to what the NCAA and these conferences were raking in).
But the NCAA doesn't make any profit. That's revenue, and the number is just the total of what the schools bring in, outside things like the NCAA basketball tournament where they distribute it to the conferences etc.
That money was spent on scholarships for other people and to pay for other sports.
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All the while, players get suspended for accepting a free $40 hair cut, or a free meal, etc... NCAA blundering as per usual.
Required to prevent people from going around the rules as they do with NIL now.
The real issue is consistency, although much of that is due to the NCAA being a private organization with no real legal authority to carry out its investigations, as well as sometimes missing the spirit of the rules.
That's not justification for completely destroying the sport.
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The current legal issues only apply to the class of 2022. Again, the NCAA stepping in it by not just letting these 16 players who wanted to stay in school but couldn't because they implemented the 5 for 5 rule a mere 3 weeks after the draft. They simply allow it, people gripe for a year, but all this legal bs goes away.
The NCAA has every right to do that. You don't got into a store and pay $200 for a TV, then see it go on sale 3 weeks later for $150 and then claim the store screwed you over.
This idea that these players are entitled to these things is part of the reason I said what I did above.
What exactly is the difference between the SEC allowing it to start with and the judges forcing it? Personally, I hope the SEC and NCAA fight it the way they did the Alabama basketball player.
And yet that sadly did not set the precedent because all it takes is 1 judge.
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Turning a blind eye to the Chambliss debacle is also a bad look for the SEC as a conference considering the stance they are taking on LSU. (which is also ironic, considering how many of the SEC programs were going after the same/similar players and will actually do so now that the courts have ruled).
This is my entire point. What these things are doing is just allowing things to continue in the same direction. And it will continue until we finally come to a ruling or conclusion that the NCAA has every right to govern as it see's fit.
Posted on 8/29/26 at 4:52 pm to Hester Carries
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Interesting how you are repeatedly avoiding the fact that you created an alter to bitch
Yes, I created this account just to come here and complain about a ruling that happened a month later.
It's also completely my fault that you took someone else's opinion on the current state of the sport personally. I knew you were super sensitive and I ignored it.
You got me, I am sorry.
This post was edited on 8/29/26 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 8/29/26 at 4:59 pm to Boom33
quote:Based on these rulings, the judges have ruled that the 2022 payers have been DAMAGED by the NCAA for not giving them the option for a 5th year like EVERY class before them (because of the free Covid year) and EVERY class after them (because of the new 5 for 5 rule).
How so? Where does the NCAA gain the authority to prevent it based on these rulings?
When someone is DAMAGED, the court orders RELIEF to make them whole.
Tell me how someone in your hyperbolic scenario has been DAMAGED?
Posted on 8/29/26 at 4:59 pm to LSUTIGAHS123
It just means more….
Posted on 8/29/26 at 5:04 pm to XbengalTiger
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Based on these rulings, the judges have ruled that the 2022 payers have been DAMAGED by the NCAA for not giving them the option for a 5th year like EVERY class before them (because of the free Covid year) and EVERY class after them (because of the new 5 for 5 rule).
When someone is DAMAGED, the court orders RELIEF to make them whole.
Tell me how someone in your hyperbolic scenario has been DAMAGED?
It doesn't matter, all that is needed is the claim and the judge.
The NCAA is damaging my earning potential by denying me eligibity. The coach and school want me to play, they want to give me money to play, but the NCAA is refusing to allow it because they are a cartel and they are breaking anti-trust laws by doing this.
This post was edited on 8/29/26 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 8/29/26 at 5:11 pm to Boom33
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No, they don't.
Compare claimed championships prior to the 1971 media to claimed championships after
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Name them.
So you are gonna tell me you never heard of Luther Davis? He got caught. Many others made claims after they left school.
This post was edited on 8/29/26 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 8/29/26 at 5:21 pm to Boom33
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I knew you were super sensitive
In what world are you not the sensitive one here? Lol.
Posted on 8/29/26 at 5:24 pm to UtahCajun
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Compare claimed championships prior to the 1971 media to claimed championships after
Do you mean the 5 claimed retroactively in 1982 after Bear died?
Is it a matter of Alabama only claiming them later while other schools claimed the same kinds full time?
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So you are gonna tell me you never heard of Luther Davis? He got caught. Many others made claims after they left school.
You mean the guy who claimed to be a bagman for NFL agents to secure contracts with players after they left Alabama?
Posted on 8/29/26 at 5:26 pm to Hester Carries
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In what world are you not the sensitive one here? Lol.
I don't take other people's opinions on the sport personally for starters.
Posted on 8/29/26 at 5:33 pm to Boom33
And I did? By pointing out that you responded multiple times to a poster but avoided what he was saying? Interesting haha
Posted on 8/29/26 at 5:37 pm to Hester Carries
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And I did? By pointing out that you responded multiple times to a poster but avoided what he was saying? Interesting haha
What's to say exactly? It's random people on a message board saying random shite.
If you think I made an account a month prior to something that happened in order to complain about it later, then you are suggesting I can see the future, or you are just lashing out because you took what I said personally.
I also don't directly respond to people when they call me retarded or other names. I respond to what they said that had merit.
This post was edited on 8/29/26 at 5:39 pm
Posted on 8/29/26 at 5:49 pm to LSUTIGAHS123
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Wright said Ole Miss, South Carolina, and Virginia Tech were among the schools that showed interest in bringing him in.
They all would
Posted on 8/29/26 at 5:56 pm to Boom33
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But the NCAA doesn't make any profit. That's revenue, and the number is just the total of what the schools bring in, outside things like the NCAA basketball tournament where they distribute it to the conferences etc.
That money was spent on scholarships for other people and to pay for other sports.
You knew what I meant. Players are generating all of that money that is going to the universities and couldn't even get a small piece of the pie. If you don't think they should, then fine. But universities offer scholarships for a reason. It's because they know those players are going to generate hundreds of millions of dollars. Throwing them a scholly isn't appropriate compensation for that amount of revenue (happy?) that is going to be spend as profit by the universities.
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Required to prevent people from going around the rules as they do with NIL now.
The real issue is consistency, although much of that is due to the NCAA being a private organization with no real legal authority to carry out its investigations, as well as sometimes missing the spirit of the rules.
That's not justification for completely destroying the sport.
Yes and the rules have appropriately changed. The players deserved more than the scholarship they were receiving considering how much money they bringing in to the conferences and universities.
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The NCAA has every right to do that. You don't got into a store and pay $200 for a TV, then see it go on sale 3 weeks later for $150 and then claim the store screwed you over.
You're being wildly disingenuous if you think that is a comparable example. You're not ineligible from purchasing the TV just because you left the store. These players were after they were told they could no longer purchase the TV.
They were told they could no longer play even though they wanted to, then 3 weeks after they sign, the NCAA says, "Oh wait, nvm you would still be eligible, but too bad so sad".
It's a pretty obvious exception the NCAA should have made considering the circumstances, but as per usual the NCAA made the WRONG decision.
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This idea that these players are entitled to these things is part of the reason I said what I did above.
The class of 2022 is 100% entitled to want to come back. The NCAA screwed them by dragging their feet.
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This is my entire point. What these things are doing is just allowing things to continue in the same direction. And it will continue until we finally come to a ruling or conclusion that the NCAA has every right to govern as it see's fit.
The NCAA doesn't have the right as deemed by the courts, so you're wrong.
And as many terrible decisions as they make, I'm glad the courts are getting involved and calling them on their bull shite and CONSTANT bad decisions.
Small handful of players who wanted to stay and not go pro, just wanted retro active opportunity to return in the face of a situation that has never happened and won't happen again. And the only reason it happened is because the NCAA keeps tripping over itself with terrible decisions.
As I've stated many times before, all the NCAA had to do was let these 16 players use the 5th year of eligibility that they screwed them out of because they drug their feet on the new rule and this is an issue for a couple of weeks then it goes away. But AGAIN as per usual they sat around and agreed to make the worst decision possible.
Defending the NCAA....jfc
This post was edited on 8/29/26 at 5:57 pm
Posted on 8/29/26 at 6:29 pm to JoeyBiscuits
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(And yes, college tuition, books and room/board are crumbs compared to what the NCAA and these conferences were raking in)
Pretty impressive statement when only a handful of athletic departments even broke even.
You realize those huge revenues the schools pulled in paid for more scholarships in sports outside of the big 3, right?
Money that allowed more student athletes opportunities.
Sure,’some college coaches were getting paid absurd amounts of money, but to claim $400k worth of value (tuition, housing, food, free tutors, training facilities, healthcare and much more) is nothing.
College hasn’t been affordable in 20 years, but you are acting like these kids got peanuts.
Posted on 8/29/26 at 6:32 pm to XbengalTiger
Class of 2021 kids did not get an extra year. I really wish people would stop claiming they did. Class of 2020 kids did.
Should class of 2021 kids be allowed back to get their 5th year?
It sucks and I am fine giving these kids the extra year with how pathetic other players have hijacked corrupt courts to get 6th years like Chambliss, but let’s stop acting like they are sandwiched between people that got something they didn’t on their own.
Should class of 2021 kids be allowed back to get their 5th year?
It sucks and I am fine giving these kids the extra year with how pathetic other players have hijacked corrupt courts to get 6th years like Chambliss, but let’s stop acting like they are sandwiched between people that got something they didn’t on their own.
Posted on 8/29/26 at 6:32 pm to Boom33
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How many times do we need to see the same pattern before we recognize it?
Agreed...but this should have been addressed a long time ago. If there were adults at the NCAA or SEC, then they would have a plan to address this has surely they could or should have seen this coming. Instead, the bumble along and react poorly and slowly and think the rest of the world is going to let them mindlessly bumble along.
Posted on 8/29/26 at 6:34 pm to LSUTIGAHS123
If any school recruits them, including mine, they should be punished. Simply because it might benefit my school in the short term, doesn’t make it magically right.
Posted on 8/29/26 at 6:36 pm to Boom33
quote:so let me get this straight everyone gets 5 years besides one graduating class and thats ok but if this class gets 5 years youre done?
I hope Alabama doesn't take a single one of them. If they do, then the sport is basically adead to me.
Posted on 8/29/26 at 6:36 pm to Rip Torner
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If any school recruits them, including mine, they should be punished. Simply because it might benefit my school in the short term, doesn’t make it magically right.
Your coach already said he's open to adding them
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