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re: 1995 Nebraska > 2019 LSU

Posted on 3/22/20 at 11:03 am to
Posted by SlushPuppie
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 3/22/20 at 11:03 am to
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Ole Miss rushed for 400+ on lsu 2019

Imagine what 95 Nebraska would do




The gaps they had to run through were wider than the gaps between your teeth
Posted by cj2002
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/22/20 at 11:16 am to
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See...this a dumb argument and not what anyone who argues 1995 Nebraska > 2019 LSU are saying. If 2019 Alabama were to line up against 1995 Nebraska today, 2019 Alabama wins by 7-10 points. The game is just different now and players are both stronger and faster. Many of last year's top teams would have likely defeated '95 Nebraska due to this reason alone.

That's why when you compare teams from different eras, you have to look at how they played relative to their competition. 2019 LSU had an impressive run. Their resume is unmatched in college football. That being said, they had some squeakers. Texas, Alabama, Auburn, and to a certain extent Florida gave them everything they asked for and came close to beating LSU.

No one came close to beating Nebraska that year. No one. They absolutely drilled their competition and averaged over 53 points per game running the power option. Every single one of their running backs averaged over 7 yards per carry. Their offense was just as explosive on the ground as 2019 LSU's was through the air.



So LSU scored more points than any team in NCAA history. LSU would score I have no doubts about that vs 95 NEB.

When LSU would put 8 in the box 95 NEB would fall behind before half-time.

Now what? LSU only ran 46 plays this year vs a very good FLA defense and scored 42.

Could the game be within 10? Maybe, but that depends more on what part of the season we are talking about.

Play LSU at the end of the season, after the Ole Miss game and 95 Neb chances go down drastically.
Posted by 93and99
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Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 3/22/20 at 11:17 am to
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How many top10 teams did the huskers beat?



Are you scared ?
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64952 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 11:26 am to
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So LSU scored more points than any team in NCAA history.


Thanks to a 15-game schedule.

Nebraska only played 12 games in 1995 and averaged 53.1 points per game while doing it. LSU averaged 48.4 points per game.

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When LSU would put 8 in the box 95 NEB would fall behind before half-time.


This is exactly what I'm talking about. You're attempting to play a game that pits two teams from two different eras. Of course the more modern team wins that game every single time. As I stated before, most of the top teams from 2019 would likely beat '95 Nebraska by 7-10 points. The players of today are stronger, faster, and more well-conditioned than they were 25 years ago.
Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
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Posted on 3/22/20 at 11:31 am to
Apples Oranges
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 3/22/20 at 11:44 am to
You give me 2019 Alabama with a 100% healthy roster and I'll take my chances. That means the roster they should have started the year with and not those rookie LB's, LaBryan Ray to help rush the passer and the regular kicker.

Not to mention a 100% Tua. That team probably has as good a chance as anyone. Defensively Bama would have been much better and without that slow first half, that game may turn out different.
This post was edited on 3/22/20 at 11:49 am
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 3/22/20 at 12:04 pm to
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RollTide1987
Well reasoned and rationale. I question whether you really are a Bama fan.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93643 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 12:10 pm to
Between the past LSU football season and the Will Wade stuff, some of the Bama posters have been among the most rational people on the board.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58035 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 7:26 pm to
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And how would Nebraska's run game have held up in the NC game, since LSU shut down A&Ms, Georgia's, Oklahoma's, and Clemson's....."IN A ROW".????..


There wasn't a single one that had as good a run game as NU.

I'm not even sure why you're including A&M b/c ours was terrible last year. OU's stats were inflated as hell b/c there is now zero defense in the Big 12. Georgia and Clemson's offensive schemes weren't anything like NU's so again I'm not sure why you are comparing them with Nebraska.

Also, I must again point out that there are some fairly significant rule differences between 1995 and 2019 that would heavily influence what could happen during a game between the two teams.
This post was edited on 3/22/20 at 7:30 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52307 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 7:32 pm to
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You give me 2019 Alabama with a 100% healthy roster and I'll take my chances. That means the roster they should have started the year with and not those rookie LB's, LaBryan Ray to help rush the passer


Nobody is ever 100% healthy, LSU was also missing three defensive starters against Alabama.

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and the regular kicker. 


Your "regular" kicker was statistically worse.

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Not to mention a 100% Tua. 


Oh God, this excuse again. What more did you want him to do? He threw for 440 yards and 4 touchdowns and did not look significantly limited in any capacity.
This post was edited on 3/22/20 at 7:33 pm
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 7:42 pm to
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1995 Nebraska > 2019 LSU


1995 Nebraska set the modern standard for dominating opponents on a consistent basis and 2019 LSU was indomitable in defeating the highest quality of competition to achieve 15-0. 2019 LSU will continue to receive their due all-time great respect as the years progress but what 1995 Nebraska did is basically mythical, almost to the level of 1971 Nebraska, 1972 USC, the Army teams of the 1940s, and the Oklahoma teams of the 1950s. The absolute PINNACLE and PERFECTION of the triple-option. As great and legendary as 2019 LSU was, they won't overtake 1995 Nebraska's greatness, too insurmountable.
This post was edited on 3/22/20 at 7:45 pm
Posted by MC123
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
2028 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 7:47 pm to
Which team will have more successful NFL players?

I wouldn’t trade offenses, defenses, special teams or coaching staffs w 95 Nebraska. And I honestly believe we would beat them by 20+
Posted by EXPLAYER
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 3/22/20 at 7:50 pm to
Fact you are a Welcher
Posted by EXPLAYER
Member since Jul 2017
10786 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 7:51 pm to
U can’t reason with that jackass
Posted by DrD
Houston
Member since Jan 2010
2609 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 7:51 pm to
Nice comeback! Let's take it an extra step and figure out the number of top-tier teams Nebraska played AND how many games they played. LSU played following top-10 to top-15 teams: FLA, AUB, ALA, GA, OK, and CLEMSON. The last 3 teams were back-to-back in post-season. 15-0 season. I'm sure 2019 LSU team would stack the box and leave our NFL-ready CB's on an island to slow down the Cornhusker's vaunted running attack. The score would probably be 34-31 or something like that. The game has changed so much over 35 years. If you can't throw it in this era you can't win.
Posted by Milk
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Member since May 2010
1042 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 7:58 pm to
quote:
1995 Nebraska - Most Dominant
2001 Miami - Great assembly of talent
2019 LSU - Offensive GOAT


LSU playing the Nebraska 1995 Schedule
#2 Clemson
#5 Oregon
#7 Oklahoma
#9 Penn St
Mississippi St would be the next best team

LSU playing the Miami 2001 Schedule
#8 Alabama
#14 Auburn
#15 Iowa
#18 Michigan
#19 Appalachian St
#21 Cincinnati
Texas A&M would be the next best team

Miami playing the LSU 2019 Schedule
#2 Orgeon
#4 Tennessee
#6 Oklahoma
#7 LSU
#8 Nebraska (this is the best team they played)
#14 Syracuse
#25 BYU
Next would be an 8-5 ATM type team

Nebraska playing the LSU 2019 Schedule
#2 Florida (played in the championship and demolished)
#4 Florida St
#6 Ohio St
#7 Kansas St (beat them regular season)
#8 Northwestern
#14 Texas
#25 Iowa
Next would be an 8-5 ATM type team which would have been their 4th best on the year.

It's easy to romanticize about the 1995 Nebraska or 2001 Miami teams, but when they are put in perspective I think the 2019 LSU team holds up.
Posted by Milk
central
Member since May 2010
1042 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 8:01 pm to
quote:
1995 Nebraska - Most Dominant
2001 Miami - Great assembly of talent
2019 LSU - Offensive GOAT


Nebraska 1995 Schedule
Oklahoma St 4-8
Michigan St 6-5-1
Arizona St 6-5
Pacific 3-8
Washington St 3-8
Missouri 3-8
#7 Kansas St 10-2
#5 Colorado 10-2
Iowa St 3-8
#9 Kansas 10-2
Oklahoma 5-5-1

Not exactly murders row. They only played 6 teams with a winning record.

To go one step further here are the ranked wins their opponents had

Michigan St beat #17 Michigan
Arizona St beat #18 Oregon
Kansas St beat #9 Kansas
Colorado beat #15 aTm, #7 Kansas St, #18 Oregon
Oklahoma tied #14 Texas

1995 Nebraska was a very dominant team, but they really didnt face a lot of competition during the year.

I already posted this stuff a few months ago Old SEC Rant topic
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64952 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 8:52 pm to
quote:

1995 Nebraska was a very dominant team, but they really didnt face a lot of competition during the year.


They faced four teams that finished in the AP Top 10. That's a third of their schedule that ended up finishing ranked among the nation's elite. Sure...they played some shite teams, but when they played the cream of the crop they freaking dominated them just as well.

That 1995 Florida team was an all-time great team themselves. No team had come within 11 points of beating them all season until Nebraska wiped the field with them in Tempe, Arizona.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52307 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 9:12 pm to
quote:

They faced four teams that finished in the AP Top 10.


2019 LSU faced 5 teams that finished in the AP Top 10 poll.

quote:

Sure...they played some shite teams, but when they played the cream of the crop they freaking dominated them just as well. 


2019 LSU beat the five Top 10 teams they faced by an average of 19.6 points and were taking knees in opposing territory against most of them to end the game.
This post was edited on 3/22/20 at 9:14 pm
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
4298 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 9:18 pm to
quote:

The absolute PINNACLE and PERFECTION of the triple-option.

'95 Nebraska didn't run the triple option.
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