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Posted on 11/6/19 at 1:42 pm to MsGarrison
Love it. Only change would be to put the quarterfinal bowl games closer to the top seeds in each quadrant. So LSU would play in the Sugar and Clemson in the Orange.
Posted on 11/6/19 at 1:42 pm to MsGarrison
The only way a 16-team playoff works is if the size of Division 1 is drastically downsized. With 130 teams, it makes 13-0 or 12-1 type records the norm.
If Major CFB reduces down to about 40 total programs, then I think you'd see much more parity which would make a larger playoff decent.
But with the way things are now, a 16-team playoff would render the regular season completely meaningless.
I also hate the idea of including the Bowl Games. The bowls are relics from the past that need not be involved in a Playoff.
The Championship Game should be on a neutral field, but until then all games should be played on campus.
If Major CFB reduces down to about 40 total programs, then I think you'd see much more parity which would make a larger playoff decent.
But with the way things are now, a 16-team playoff would render the regular season completely meaningless.
I also hate the idea of including the Bowl Games. The bowls are relics from the past that need not be involved in a Playoff.
The Championship Game should be on a neutral field, but until then all games should be played on campus.
Posted on 11/6/19 at 1:43 pm to TailbackU
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There are only 6 or 7 teams that have a shot at the playoffs. It's boring if you're not one of those teams.
This argument is at least semi-logical if you are talking about G5 teams like Memphis, UCF, etc.........but if you are in a Power 5 conference then tough shite.
You have EVERY opportunity to make a 4-team playoff. Expanding the field to 16 teams so you can lose 3 games and still go is stupid.
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 1:43 pm to PEPE
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Who cares, you're both in regardless.
First, that's just not true. Lots of teams who were in the top 10 this year wouldn't make that tourney, if it were held this year. Second, even if it is a top 5 match up of teams who don't have another loss on their schedule, the games still matter for seeding and conference championship purposes.
Posted on 11/6/19 at 1:44 pm to PEPE
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No regular season game would matter ever again.
It matters if you care about having home field advantage in the first round. It matters if you want to have the higher seed so you have an easier path to the Championship game. It matters if you care about the opponents your team plays.
College football's passion won't disappear if we expand the playoff. I'll still care about beating all our rivals and winning all our games. I imagine most fans will be the same.
Posted on 11/6/19 at 1:45 pm to DirtyDawg
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home field advantage in the first round.
Playoff games on the home field! Can you imagine what a blast that would be?!
Posted on 11/6/19 at 1:46 pm to DirtyDawg
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It matters if you care about having home field advantage in the first round. It matters if you want to have the higher seed so you have an easier path to the Championship game. It matters if you care about the opponents your team plays.
College football's passion won't disappear if we expand the playoff. I'll still care about beating all our rivals and winning all our games. I imagine most fans will be the same.
I do agree with this - the whole "the games won't matter!" thing is so silly.
Yes they would. You would still care very much, both for getting the most advantageous playoff position (seeding, home field, etc) and because you want to kill your rival with a rusty spoon.
Posted on 11/6/19 at 1:46 pm to MsGarrison
Here's the funny thing, people keep doing the same thing over and over hoping for different results.
People complained about the Poll era championships being based on biased, subjective opinions, so they called for a two team playoff.
People complained about the BCS era championships being based on biased, subjective opinions, so they called for a 4-team playoff.
Now people are complaining about the CFP era championships being based on biased, subjective opinions, so now they're calling for 8-team, 16-team, etc... playoffs.
Has anyone stopped to think that maybe it's not the number of teams, but the nature of basing a championship on biased, subjective opinion polls? I mean, we keep changing the number of teams, but the complaint about bias is still the same.
Maybe, JUST MAYBE, it's not about the number of teams in the playoffs, but how those teams are selected.
People complained about the Poll era championships being based on biased, subjective opinions, so they called for a two team playoff.
People complained about the BCS era championships being based on biased, subjective opinions, so they called for a 4-team playoff.
Now people are complaining about the CFP era championships being based on biased, subjective opinions, so now they're calling for 8-team, 16-team, etc... playoffs.
Has anyone stopped to think that maybe it's not the number of teams, but the nature of basing a championship on biased, subjective opinion polls? I mean, we keep changing the number of teams, but the complaint about bias is still the same.
Maybe, JUST MAYBE, it's not about the number of teams in the playoffs, but how those teams are selected.
Posted on 11/6/19 at 1:47 pm to MsGarrison
I personally wouldnt mind 8. Every Power 5 champion is an auto bid along with the next 3 highest ranked
Would not care to see it expand beyond that tho
Would not care to see it expand beyond that tho
Posted on 11/6/19 at 1:48 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Expanding the field to 16 teams so you can lose 3 games and still go is stupid.
Exactly. Want to be national champ? Have a legitimate argument at the end of conference championship weekend in favor of your team being the best in the country. Can't put one together? Enjoy your non-playoff bowl game.
Posted on 11/6/19 at 1:49 pm to MsGarrison
Give me eight. All Power 5 Conference champs + 3 at-large bids. If you win your conference you're in. If you don't, but you're damn good, you might catch a break and get in.
Sixteen is nonsense.
Sixteen is nonsense.
Posted on 11/6/19 at 1:49 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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and because you want to kill your rival with a rusty spoon
I prefer to put my rivals in a pit for months on end while they moisturize their skin for me.
Posted on 11/6/19 at 1:49 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Maybe, JUST MAYBE, it's not about the number of teams in the playoffs, but how those teams are selected.
There would still be argument but then you reach a point where the argument is about the bottom 2-3 teams that get in (like in basketball) and not that a true championship contender didn't get in.
Which then leads to a followup........why are these non-championship contender teams in this whole thing anyway?
I don't know, I think that 8 is probably a fair compromise that would be neat in it's own ways (home games perhaps in R1, a G5 team gets a shot every year there is one that is worthy, no real "worthy" team gets left out).
But, in the end, there will still be complaining......because we are humans.
Posted on 11/6/19 at 1:49 pm to DirtyDawg
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I prefer to put my rivals in a pit for months on end while they moisturize their skin for me.
Same, but instead of a pit the Krystal on Bourbon Street
Posted on 11/6/19 at 1:50 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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but instead of a pit the Krystal on Bourbon Street
frick that place. It made my a-hole shoot out dragon's breath the morning of the LSU game last year.
I felt like the last of the Targaryen's.
Posted on 11/6/19 at 1:51 pm to DirtyDawg
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It made my a-hole shoot out dragon's breath the morning of the LSU game last year.
Quite the punishment isn't it?
Posted on 11/6/19 at 1:52 pm to TarnishedWisdom90
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Every Power 5 champion is an auto bid
Good, objective criterion there.
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with the next 3 highest ranked
Oh, you just HAVE to add an element of subjective opinion to an otherwise objective system, right? You think that's going to solve the problem we have today which is a subjective selection system that's inherently prone to bias?
If you have to rely on opinion polls, why not just go back to poll era championships?
Posted on 11/6/19 at 1:52 pm to DirtyDawg
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frick that place. It made my a-hole shoot out dragon's breath the morning of the LSU game last year.
I felt like the last of the Targaryen's.
Some LSU fans I've heard of have bad memories of that Krystal as well...
Posted on 11/6/19 at 1:53 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Give me a computer algorithm to pick this shite please. DO IT.
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