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Aggies truly are SEC now, claim 2 MNC, 2 Conference Titles since last Summer
Posted on 9/7/12 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 9/7/12 at 12:39 pm
Sorry if Germs
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You're looking at two photos of Texas A&M's Kyle Field, both via Rant Sports. The top was taken last season, the bottom snapped just this week. Pretend this is one of those "spot the differences" bar games, and see if you can tell what's new. Yep, the Aggies' history managed to get a lot more storied over the offseason.
Two "new" national titles, in 1919 and 1927. Two new Big 12 championships, in 1997 and 2010.
The reason is because the NCAA has never had an official D 1-A/FBS national champion. Even in the modern era, the winner is merely the "BCS Champion." (The NCAA does name a national champion, but it's the FCS winner, where there's actually a playoff in place. Yes, your defending college football national champions are the North Dakota State Bison.)
Competitive sport hates a void. So, over the years, there have been numerous attempt to decide a champion, relying on either pure math, or a poll of educated voters. Especially in the early days of college football, these systems were developed with regularity, and were eradicated just as quickly, and were often in direct competition with each other. At times in the 1920s, there were more than 10 competing systems. It wasn't weird for five or six different schools in any given year to have a claim to a title. Texas A&M isn't strictly inventing championships, but it's citing more obscure ones, that even in their time weren't taken that seriously.
• In 1919, either Harvard or Illinois won the title, depending on who you talked to. But the National Championship Foundation, which was formed in 1980, polled its voters to choose retroactive championships for every year dating back to 1869. For 1919, they declared a three-way tie between Harvard, Notre Dame, and Texas A&M.
The Billingsley Report, the creation of programmer Richard Billingsley, also retroactively declared champions beginning in 1996, including the undefeated 1919 Aggies. It is purely mathematical, arguably quite flawed, and has become an actual component of the BCS Standings.
• In 1927, Illinois was the closest thing to a consensus champion those confusing 1920s could offer. But the Sagarin Ratings, the computer formula devised in the 1980s by Jeff Sagarin and more familiarly used for basketball, declared the Aggies the national champs that year.
The conference titles are easier to sort out.
• In 1997, the Aggies finished first in the Big 12 South—though with the third best record in the entire conference. In the conference title game, they were blown out by Nebraska. They're still claiming that year as a conference championship.
• In 2010, there was a three-way tie in the Big 12 South, with Texas A&M coming in third by the tiebreaker of overall record. (There was also a tie in the North division, meaning that literally every team that finished above .500 can technically boast a conference championship that season.) The Aggies didn't even go to the conference title game, but still claim the conference title.
It's called the "mythical" national championship, but a better term for A&M's titles are technical. Sure, they had national championships, according to someone—but they're only valid if you're willing to accept all those other great national champions over the years, like the Centre College Praying Colonels in 1919, Tom Osborne's 9-3 Huskers in 1981, or Boise State in 2006. In other words: enjoy those fake titles, Aggies. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
Posted on 9/7/12 at 12:40 pm to Lee County Tiger
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Posted on 9/7/12 at 12:40 pm to Lee County Tiger
Crap like this is why we should go ahead and claim 1913 & 1914.
Posted on 9/7/12 at 12:40 pm to Lee County Tiger
You're shitting me right? Like, you didn't even page over all the way to Page 2?
This post was edited on 9/7/12 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 9/7/12 at 12:40 pm to JDM1992
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Must've been on your message board
What message board?
Posted on 9/7/12 at 12:41 pm to relapse98
Mine has an article about it.
Posted on 9/7/12 at 12:42 pm to relapse98
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You're shitting me right?
That's what we would like to know about it...
Posted on 9/7/12 at 12:42 pm to JDM1992
It sure does seem like a bunch of Aubies are upset about A&M/Mizzou coming here
coming across as jelly or scurred
coming across as jelly or scurred
Posted on 9/7/12 at 12:48 pm to TheSandman
are we claiming 2004 yet?
Posted on 9/7/12 at 12:50 pm to GeauxWarTigers
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are we claiming 2004 yet?
Auburn Tiger National Championships:
1913-1914-1957-1983-2004-2010
This post was edited on 9/7/12 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 9/7/12 at 12:50 pm to GeauxWarTigers
Like a boss MFers.......
We trying to add another from 1899.
We trying to add another from 1899.

Posted on 9/7/12 at 12:51 pm to TheSandman
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Auburn Tiger National Championships: 1910-1913-1914-1957-1983-2004-2010
take that Alabama.

Posted on 9/7/12 at 12:53 pm to Lee County Tiger
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• In 1997, the Aggies finished first in the Big 12 South—though with the third best record in the entire conference. In the conference title game, they were blown out by Nebraska. They're still claiming that year as a conference championship.
• In 2010, there was a three-way tie in the Big 12 South, with Texas A&M coming in third by the tiebreaker of overall record. (There was also a tie in the North division, meaning that literally every team that finished above .500 can technically boast a conference championship that season.) The Aggies didn't even go to the conference title game, but still claim the conference title.
Just fricking WOW
Posted on 9/7/12 at 12:54 pm to stapuffmarshy
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It sure does seem like a bunch of Aubies are upset about A&M/Mizzou coming here
coming across as jelly or scurred
Not sure if serious

Posted on 9/7/12 at 12:55 pm to Draconian Sanctions
They need to simply put "conference and division championships" on the damn wall and be done with it
Posted on 9/7/12 at 12:57 pm to TheSandman
I like it and since it is on the internet it has to be true.
AU 7 National Titles
AU 7 National Titles

This post was edited on 9/7/12 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 9/7/12 at 1:02 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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In 2010, there was a three-way tie in the Big 12 South, with Texas A&M coming in third by the tiebreaker of overall record. (There was also a tie in the North division, meaning that literally every team that finished above .500 can technically boast a conference championship that season.) The Aggies didn't even go to the conference title game, but still claim the conference title.
Way to go Aggies.
I didn't think anyone in the SEC would top Ole Miss's lame "2003 SEC West Co-Champs" banner.
shite, even Bama's mythical 1941 title where they finished #20 in the AP poll looks respectable in comparison to this.
This is a new low.

This post was edited on 9/7/12 at 1:06 pm
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