How many years are we going to endure Luke ball?

You're taking football too seriously. Honestly, the better we were at football, the less fun it became.

I use to enjoy going to the grove with my buddies and just drinking, sometimes we wouldn't even go into the stadium. Heh, sometimes we wouldn't even watch the game on our flat screens at the tents while the game was going on, especially if Alabama or LSU were playing elsewhere.

And if we did go, we definitely didn't stay all game, it's not enjoyable when all those nufans keep standing up and blocking my view.

Let's face it, we're from Mississippi and being mediocre is an art form here. And that's okay, I'd want nothing more and I'm a little ashamed that you would.

Let's leave the football to programs like Alabama and LSU, be happy that we're not like those rednecks down in Starkville; and enjoy the things that make Oxford great, our ability to elevate unqualified people into relatively high-paying positions of prominence because of their last name or because they know [insert name] who owns [insert restaurant/bar] and they're a pretty good guy by all accounts.

Blaeke, your post exemplifies the mindset that keeps Ole Miss from being an elite program. I know it was sarcasm but it is absolutely spot on.

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Blaeke, your post exemplifies the mindset that keeps Ole Miss from being an elite program. I know it was sarcasm but it is absolutely spot on

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Honestly, if I never heard, "But we never lose the party," again, it would be too soon. I was living in Austin in 2005 when Texas won the natty. The Grove is fun, but once you've seen that kind of party, getting hammered under a tent really doesn't compare.

My impression of Ole Miss prior to coming to town (and I grew up in MS) was one where most of the fan base was satisfied with mediocrity so long as whatever network was covering the game that day talked about how great the Grove is while the other portion thought you should just do whatever it takes and enjoy whatever that got you when the NCAA shows up. I'm not sure if that is a Mississippi thing or some kind infection we caught from the Southwest Conference after fraternizing with Arkansas too much over the years. Either way, I don't think that impression was entirely baseless after living here awhile.

Personally, I think both are sad points of view. Ole Miss has a pretty decent national brand and more money around the program than a lot of people realize. Not LSU levels, but then, thankfully, alumni actually give a damn about giving money to academics as well as athletics here. A coaching staff with some vision could build something good here given a few years. Some of that starts with not looking at the seven, mini state fairs that happen in the Grove as an acceptable alternative to winning the west.

Fire them all. Clean house. There have been NO improvements on defense and the offense only works against the weak. After the "brilliant" idea of bringing all the top recruits to campus for the Bama game, recruiting is probably fricked. At least bring in a staff that offers some semblance of hope.

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I agree about Ross needing to go but if you blame Luke for our current problems in football and not Freeze you are too stupid to even talk to.

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Freeze has been gone for two seasons now. A good coach would have the program on the upswing, not treading water. Luke cannot bail us out. Freeze bailed us out of the Nutt bottom. That was MUCH worse than where we are now. I just don't want to see us go back there but that is exactly where we are heading.

And I was told I was the only one who thought like this. Glad someone else agrees.

The disagreements people have with me I think are when to get rid of him. I want him gone at the end of this year but people think he "deserves" another year. Why wait another year though and dig the hole deeper?

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We can do better than Freeze.

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The only coach that has been better was Vaught. So that's a pretty bold statement

We aren't firing a coach after two years. The probation is over after this year and he still can't recruit. I know its a long time till signing day but our class is almost already full and won't be in the top 25. Plus Luke, like Freeze, cannot recruit to need positions. He also can't coach or motivate the team. We need to can Bjork and McGriff at the end of the season and then fire Luke when he goes 4-8 next year.

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Blaeke, your post exemplifies the mindset that keeps Ole Miss from being an elite program. I know it was sarcasm but it is absolutely spot on.

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A couple of things that keep us from being an elite program:

The fact that Ole Miss isn't a top 20 revenue generating program is the first reason.

The SEC is going to keep the status quo for the premier programs in the conference, secondly.
This includes making sure upstart smaller revenue schools, don't rock the boat by grabbing too much of the elite talent.

Why you ask? They don't want Ole Miss, state, Kentucky, Arkansas, Missouri, Vandy and South Carolina watering down the talent pool for the top revenue schools such as bama, lsu, florida, georgia, auburn, ut and aTm. And yes, aTm was brought into the SEC to keep Arkansas, Missouri, LSU and Ole Miss from stealing yoo much talent from Texas and being an upset in the waiting for the big boys. So they bring in aTm and now they have a top 20 h revenue generating school pulling the Texas talent away from Arkansas, Missouri and Ole Miss. Plus they will accept aTm as an elite program because of their money. It's all about the money. Ole Miss doesn't have the alumni to support that kind of revenue. It would take state and Ole Miss combined alumni base to maybe, bump off Tennessee. It's not because of our attitude toward winning. It's about the size of the program. We are a small fish in a big SEC pond.