re: How many years are we going to endure Luke ball?

Where is that board? I never heard "we never lose a party" in my time at Ole Miss! We won the game and the party was obviously going to be a win! Problem was most home games were in Jackson so we had to wait till we were home to party! Some did puke in my car though, on the way back!

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The disagreements people have with me I think are when to get rid of him. I want him gone at the end of this year but people think he "deserves" another year. Why wait another year though and dig the hole deeper?

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He doesn't "deserve" another year but he's going to get one. Next year is going to be much worse no matter who is the coach. We aren't bringing in any game changers on defense AND we lose 90% of our offense. Luke's entire purpose is to bridge the gap and get us back to ground zero for the next guy to come in.

Your defense of Freeze is pretty incredible and that's why most disagree with you. That and the fact that you act like we missed out on some incredible hire last year when clearly nobody worth a quarter frick was coming here.

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And to be honest, all I wanted was a fresh start regardless of who we hired. What we ended up with was the same staff and no new beginnings. We should be in year 1 of a rebuild. Instead, we are going to hit rock bottom with Luke and after wasting 3 years with him, we will have to bring in a new guy, that hopefully is a decent hire, and get to start the rebuild 3-5 years from now.

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I agree.

I'm definitely not on the "Hire Hugh Freeze back!" or "Hugh Freeze never should have been fired!" train.

However, after firing Hugh Freeze, I would have rather have had a hard reset. Instead we essentially retained the poor contributors and dead weight of his already downward trending program while just replacing the head coach (with one of the most criticized position coaches).

You could argue that potentially any of the above choices or Doeren wouldn't guarantee any success. However, with Luke at the reins, and the large contingent of local/booster support backing his tenure, I could see any potentially mildly successful season (5-7 to 7-5 for those people) be used as a reason to further extend his employment and any lackluster season (4-8 and below for that bunch) be deflected on previous staffs or other issues to protect him.

I think that the majority here support and back Henry Jones Jr and Landmass; I am one of them. The problem is that the most vocal of fans do not believe that we were capable of hiring a more qualified coach (we were) and/or they do not believe that we are capable of sustaining success (we are). Those are the fans that accept mediocrity and enjoy their place as second-class citizens in the conference. The only goal that they see as achievable is being better than State, and so they keep their expectations low and their contributions low. Not shooting for the stars and accepting being above average is the primary reason why we are being surpassed by State in every sport.

We can be national relevant. Say what you want about Hugh Freeze but he proved that. If anything Hugh Freeze showed us that you can be extremely inefficient and still be nationally relevant. If our program is humming at peak efficiency we can absolutely compete with the big boys. We might not be able to constantly reload to maintain ourselves at the top of the food chain like Alabama, Georgia, or LSU, but we can compete.

If we want to compete like the big boys though then we need to operate like the big boys. If that means ruffling feathers, then let’s ruffle them. If Bjork isn’t bringing us success (and he isn’t) then new leadership is needed. The powers that be need to be put on notice that mediocrity is no longer acceptable. Withhold your contributions, don’t go to games. Hit them in their pockets, where it hurts, and things will get done.

Push fans to the background that do accept mediocrity. I like winning. I like being able to go to church on Sunday and not having to avoid the inevitable “what happened to your rebels yesterday”. If you are a fan who isn’t helping us push forward then you are pulling us back. Choose a new team. We do not need you.

Am I the only one who doesn’t care where the guy comes from? I don’t care if he knows what it’s like to be a “Rebel”. I want the best candidate nothing more.

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Am I the only one who doesn’t care where the guy comes from? I don’t care if he knows what it’s like to be a “Rebel”. I want the best candidate nothing more.

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I certainly don't care.

Alabama went through the "one of our own" phase before Saban. They got Shula... and others that vastly underachieved. The fan base finally got tired of the one of our own mentality and wanted to win. They went on a mission to find the right guy. They thought that was Saban. He was in the NFL and did not want to come back to coaching college. He refused. They pushed. He refused. They did not give up. He finally accepted. They did what it took to hire a winner and that made them the strongest power that college football has ever had.

I don't need one of our own. I need a winner.

It doesn't change the point that I was making.

You go get the best guy for the job no matter where he is from.

Not interested in the "one of our own" thing. I want the best guy for the job. If he happens to be one of our own, fine, but that's way down the list of pluses for my head coach.

It makes sense to say the best candidate available. But what is the criteria for the best candidate? I mean, I'm sure Tennessee has been making their coaching hires under the same "best candidate available" guidelines and that's worked out so well. The odds of having long term success are diminished greatly by how often those coaching changes occur. This is why I don't foresee much success for the football program unless there is a strong tie to the university. We are way down the list in the SEC for a destination spot for well established or up and coming coaches wanting to make a name for themselves in the SEC. And like I said, the first 10 win season they are gone. Mullen left the best team ever at state to go rebuild at Florida. It took him 7 years and some patience, but he finally got the job he wanted and it wasn't in Mississippi.