There are now 30 countries with at least 500 COVID-19 fatalities

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The Netherlands now has nearly 600 more deaths from this than China.

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*reported deaths

Why are we doing business with a blatantly dishonest country?

China's Covid-19 data tells me one of two things:
1. China's data is not accurate and they suppressed their numbers mightily to mitigate a negative world image.
2. China's reported numbers are roughly as accurate as most nations in which case they prepared well because they knew the virus had been released early on yet allowed their citizens to travel all over the world to spread the virus.

I'm more inclined to believe the second scenario which explains why China, the largest producer of personal protective equipment, was buying massive quantities of PPE well before their puppet the World Health Organization publicly announced the Covid-19 pandemic.

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I would be shocked if China doesn't actually have at least ten times the number of reported deaths.

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I bet even more than that.

Look at New York City. Metro NYC has so far seen just over 32,000 fatalities.... by far the most fatalities and the most fatalities per capita of any major American city. So far, 1.62 out of every 1,000 New Yorkers has died from this.

The reason NYC has been hit so hard is its density and the fact that so many people commute on the subway system. Now compare New York to Wuhan:

Metro Population:
20.87 million in New York
8.96 million in Wuhan

Population Density:
4,404 people per square mile in New York
14,100 people per square mile in Wuhan

Subway Ridership (Average Day):
1 out of every 4.5 New York residents rides the subway each day.
1 out of every 2.7 Wuhan residents rides the subway each day.

Wuhan is far more densely populated and has an even greater dependency on Subway commuting. It has far fewer hospital beds and ventilators per capita as well. There is no way that Wuhan came out better in this than New York. In fact, it was likely exponentially worse.

Yet if you took New York's current fatality rate and applied that to Wuhan's population, then that would mean that at least 14,518 people would have died in Wuhan alone.... and that's just one city in China. Wuhan's airport has more than 67,000 daily passengers with regular fights to more than 40+ other cities in China..... there is no way the virus was mostly contained to Wuhan. It obviously spread from there, we just didn't hear about it because the Chinese government shut down information from getting out.

Yet China reports just 4,633 total fatalities. That's complete BS. The USA already has 76,000 and by August, we're likely to have anywhere from 120,000 to 140,000..... my guess is China saw at least 100,000 deaths from this. At least.

... didn't they also lock down at gunpoint.

Nor sugarcoat their intent with terms like social distancing or shelter in place. Masks were immediate for everyone. And I believe ya needed a hall pass to leave the room.

Communist hate'em all... but they do have a way with handling matters at the national level... don't diddly tally around suppressing discontent.... and yes they obviously get to add numbers any way they want.

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I would be shocked if China doesn't actually have at least ten times the number of reported deaths. Actually I'd be shocked if they aren't into six digits on their death toll.

Some folks here claim that we are over reporting deaths. I guarantee you the Chinese are under reporting them.

"He died from a build up of fluids in his lungs while in his kitchen. Obviously he was drinking water and it went down the wrong pipe. Happens to us all. Accidental death."

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China's numbers are probably more accurate than the US numbers.

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Yeah, it's called being cremated and they do it everywhere.

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I’ll only believe that when Fox News reports it as not being fake.

frick those commie bastards

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frick those commie bastards

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Is the correct answer to all socialist