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re: Census estimates 2014, SEC metros edition.

Posted on 4/7/15 at 8:54 am to
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 8:54 am to
The two things I'm most surprised by is that Knoxville is larger than Columbia, and that Columbia is only growing at 4.3 %. Every time I go back to Cola, there's nothing but change. The metro area is growing by leaps and bounds, or at least it looks that way from the outside, but the growth rate doesn't quite match my perception.
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
7996 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:20 am to
I don't know how far "metro" is considered, but I'd be real surprised if Columbia MO had 170k+ people. I know its been growing, but I'd put it at more like 140k
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:29 am to
For Columbia, Missouri, the MSA incudes all of Boone County.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36567 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:39 am to
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I could be mistaken, but I think Knoxville's MSA is like 9 counties which is really weird to me.


That is weird. When I was in Knoxville, it didn't really feel as big as Baton Rouge.

Though, to be fair, Baton Rouge's metropolitan area includes the better part of two other parishes. It doesn't really matter though, everyone in those parishes drives into Baton Rouge every day.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28944 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:41 am to
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Oxford movin on up.




Surprised to see Oxford and Starkville have that low of a population to house D1 schools, but then i looked at your 2010 census and saw that the only city above 100k was Jackson.

My FiL is from Biloxi and he made it sound like it was pretty podunk, but it's at 40k+.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:00 am to
Oxford is one of the fastest growing areas in Mississippi, but it is all relative. Not much else appears to be growing down there.

Nothing anywhere compares to Texas metro growth right now. NWA continues to grow at a clip of around 9-10k people per year. That's plenty for this little metro area, if you ask me. It has passed some regional peers like Springfield, MO and Shreveport, LA. NWA will eclipse the Jackson metro in population in less than a decade, if present trends continue.
This post was edited on 4/7/15 at 11:02 am
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28944 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:06 am to
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Nothing anywhere compares to Texas metro growth right now. NWA continues to grow at a clip of around 9-10k people per year. That's plenty for this little metro area, if you ask me.



yes. the Texas growth is pretty ridiculous. I went back home to San Angelo, TX this last Christmas and it was a completely different town with traffic jams, strip clubs, Twin Peaks, and about 10 new hotels in the last 3 years. i always loved growing up there because of the smallish town 80-90k where nobody was in a rush. not the case anymore.

where i live now was about 55k when i moved here 6 years ago and no traffic issues at all. now we're around 70k and it's a CF every day on i35.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:13 am to
Central Texas seems to have missed the boat on infrastructure. I know there's a strong anti-freeway lobby in Austin. I understand some of it, but they have created a traffic gridlock hell down there. More roads only attract more cars, though.

We are getting all citified up here with our freeway going to six lanes through the metro. Sounds funny, but I can also remember when it was called "the bypass" and dead-ended back into little two-lane roads once you got out of town. Now they are talking about a future "by-pass" of our main freeway. This area has grown steadily for the past 30 years though. I don't remember a time when NWA wasn't adding people at a strong pace.
Posted by Mizzeaux
Worshington
Member since Jun 2012
13894 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:18 am to
Pretty sure Columbia's metro always includes some of the smaller counties north of Columbia that really don't have much to do with CoMo. I'd always wondered why Columbia-Jeff City weren't included together since they share the same media market and other types of things like that.

All these counties included with Columbia also share the market, but it seems to me if Moberly is included in the Columbia area Jeff City should be too.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28944 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:19 am to
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Central Texas seems to have missed the boat on infrastructure. I know there's a strong anti-freeway lobby in Austin. I understand some of it, but they have created a traffic gridlock hell down there. More roads only attract more cars, though.



Austin is absolutely the worst city in the state to drive in or through. I hate it passionately.

that toll around is one of the most beautiful things on the entirety of I35 Laredo to Minnesota.

Where i live, they're working to make it 4 lanes each way, which is more than i can say for Austin. it's kinda brutal on weekends when they shut a lane down, but at least they're doing something. fortunately i missed the bridge collapse in Salado 2 weeks ago, because i normally go that route about 4-5x a month.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:21 am to
UK's growth is largely responsible for Lexington's population increase. Plans are to level off at about 37,000 students. The medical sciences are leading the growth. I wouldn't want to see more than that.

Lexington is having to accommodate more professionals and their families on a permanent basis and far more students for the academic year. UK President Capiluoto has worked hard to get more student housing on campus and the university now has 8,000 more dorm rooms than just five years ago. That has helped tremendously.

The other notable cause of population increases in Lexington is the southward movement of yankees. Most emigrate further south but some are settling in Kentucky. They're mainly from Michigan and Ohio.
This post was edited on 4/7/15 at 11:22 am
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:32 am to
Fayetteville's growth is a mix of a growing university and overall healthy business climate in the broader metro region. Lots of start-ups, and 3 Fortune 500 companies within 25 minutes doesn't hurt. I feel like the town itself is getting over-densified sometimes, though. Traffic is way up. The city has zoned lots of areas for "infill" and we're seeing big apartment blocks in the downtown area now. It always feels like there's about 20% too many people in Fayetteville, IMO. Until summer break....
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72216 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 5:56 pm to
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No, it's not arbitrary at all. It correlates to the number of persons in a county who commute to the metro.


Oh, I'm aware. But the lines between Tuscaloosa and Birmingam are likely to become blurred over the next 25-50 years. They're 50 miles apart.
Posted by TheDude321
Member since Sep 2005
3159 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 6:59 pm to
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They're 50 miles apart.


Weren't the city limits of Tuscaloosa extended all the way across the county to include the Mercedes plant? If so, then Tuscaloosa and Birmingham are now more like 25 miles apart.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18806 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:18 pm to
I'm praying that this doesn't happen in East TX. Between illegal immigration and godsamn carpet bagging Yankees I'm surprised it hasn't happened already.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14111 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:25 pm to
Not sure what they're including into the Oxford metro census, Batesville maybe. Starkville is next to Columbus and West Point, that's 60-70k right there.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28944 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:32 pm to
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I'm praying that this doesn't happen in East TX. Between illegal immigration and godsamn carpet bagging Yankees I'm surprised it hasn't happened already.



Don't find oil and you'll be safe.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18806 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:07 pm to
True dat. We've got just enough for a little bit of mailbox money and it don't bother me none.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68528 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:10 pm to
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Oxford is one of the fastest growing areas in Mississippi, but it is all relative. Not much else appears to be growing down there.

North Mississippi has been growing fast for the last decade or so. Olive Branch at one point was the fastest growing city in the country.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14111 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:21 pm to
Well it's DeSoto County that's growing so fast, Rankin is in second, or was a couple of years ago. I think it has slowed up. Other than that, there's nothing much to speak of.
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