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8 yr old girl solves murder of heart transplant donor via memory transference
Posted on 12/11/19 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 12/11/19 at 3:07 pm
look at case #3
memory transference in organ transplant is a thing and in one case a 8 year old girl, who was a heart transplant recipients from a 10 year girl heart, solved her murder.
Short story, after the transplant She started having vivid nightmares of being murdered.
There are many cases where organ transplant patients take on habits, characteristic of their donor.
This is a really fascinating topic. Thoughts?
Did a higher power or the murdered girls spirit lead to the dreams or is it only memories that were stored within the DNA of transplanted heart?
memory transference in organ transplant is a thing and in one case a 8 year old girl, who was a heart transplant recipients from a 10 year girl heart, solved her murder.
Short story, after the transplant She started having vivid nightmares of being murdered.
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Case 3: murder mystery involving donor is solved by an organ recipient
An eight year-old girl, who received the heart of a murdered ten year-old girl, began having recurring vivid nightmares about the murder. Her mother arranged a consultation with a psychiatrist who after several sessions concluded that she was witnessing actual physical incidents. They decided to call the police who used the detailed descriptions of the murder (the time, the weapon, the place, the clothes he wore, what the little girl he killed had said to him) given by the little girl to find and convict the man in question (2).
There are many cases where organ transplant patients take on habits, characteristic of their donor.
This is a really fascinating topic. Thoughts?
Did a higher power or the murdered girls spirit lead to the dreams or is it only memories that were stored within the DNA of transplanted heart?
This post was edited on 12/11/19 at 3:15 pm
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 3:39 pm to spacewrangler
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Journal of New Approaches to Medicine and Health
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NAMAH is being published by the Sri Aurobindo International Institute for Integral Health and Research, a wing of Sri Aurobindo Society, Pondicherry.
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This post was edited on 12/11/19 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 12/11/19 at 9:04 pm to spacewrangler
Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:15 pm to Kentucker
another link about the topic... the first link was a whack website ..so might this one..references the same 8yr old murder solved
Still a lot of instances where recipients take on donors characteristics, habits and etc..
Still a lot of instances where recipients take on donors characteristics, habits and etc..
Posted on 12/12/19 at 8:25 am to spacewrangler
Um, using your train of thought, wouldn’t the donated organ be more likely to take on the characteristics of its host?
We know that your supposition is not possible because of the universal rejection of transplanted organs without immune suppressant drugs. Identical twins have the best chance of sharing organs but there is a small risk of rejection even with them.
We know that your supposition is not possible because of the universal rejection of transplanted organs without immune suppressant drugs. Identical twins have the best chance of sharing organs but there is a small risk of rejection even with them.
Posted on 12/12/19 at 10:00 am to Kentucker
All if this could be false, fake news and etc.
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Um, using your train of thought, wouldn’t the donated organ be more likely to take on the characteristics of its host?
Sure, but the main points is the cellular memory theories that are being discussed and that memories are also stored in DNA.
A recent bone marrow transplant recipient had DNA test completed and the DNA had changed to that of the donors in his blood and seemen. The question was if he had fathered a child would it be his or the donors due to the DNA ?
I'm not an expert on this and have not spent much time researching this topic. I heard it on news radio talk show in was listening to yesterday and the DNA change from bone marrow was a topic and cellular memory transference from transplants was discussed (8yr old girls murder case).
I found it interesting and thought I would share here... .
This post was edited on 12/12/19 at 10:02 am
Posted on 12/12/19 at 1:40 pm to spacewrangler
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Sure, but the main points is the cellular memory theories that are being discussed and that memories are also stored in DNA.
Don’t confuse genes with memory. They are very different mechanisms. Genes are programs that have come about via evolutionary influences such as environmental stressors and mutations. They are present in every cell, dictating how each one functions.
Memories, on the other hand are stored in the brain only. The hippocampus is the part of the brain that primarily regulates memory. There is no logic to and no mechanism for the storage of experiential memories in each cell.
This post was edited on 12/12/19 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 12/12/19 at 8:28 pm to spacewrangler
Posted on 12/12/19 at 10:16 pm to Kentucker
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Genes are programs that have come about via evolutionary influences
Posted on 12/13/19 at 11:03 am to spacewrangler
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Still a lot of instances where recipients take on donors characteristics, habits and etc..
All coming from the same source as the first website - Paul Pearsall. My guess is that he's a bullshite artist. And it doesn't matter how many suckers quote him, it's still only one source.
Posted on 12/13/19 at 11:30 am to spacewrangler
It doesn't seem far fetched to me that your nervous system throughout your body is capable of storing memories.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 1:24 pm to spacewrangler
If you had a heart transplant you would dream you were getting murdered too. It’s a gruesome surgery.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 1:57 pm to spacewrangler
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There are many cases where organ transplant patients take on habits, characteristic of their donor.
So a guy who died whacking off has his pecker donated and the recipient goes blind after the surgery?
Posted on 12/15/19 at 1:24 am to spacewrangler
This is some National Enquirer level stuff. Fun to think about but unreasonable to believe.
Posted on 12/15/19 at 2:22 pm to spacewrangler
Scientifically I don’t see how memories were transferred by a heart. Memories are stored in neurons of the brain.
I do believe in the spiritual world though and i think it’s possible in this aspect
I do believe in the spiritual world though and i think it’s possible in this aspect
Posted on 12/15/19 at 2:23 pm to STLDawg
Calling dibs on Dan Bilzerians organs so I can get his memories
Posted on 12/16/19 at 9:10 am to spacewrangler
Seems to me that someone posted a thread on here a couple months back linking to a study done by the prestigious MIT ( ) that seemed to indicate that, yes, DNA stores memories.
I remember this thread well too because I called Kentucker out for saying some shite like, "well since this is "MIT" we may need to take a more serious look at this."
Now here he is in this thread acting like none of that ever happened and this is something to laugh at.
frickin pathetic.
) that seemed to indicate that, yes, DNA stores memories. I remember this thread well too because I called Kentucker out for saying some shite like, "well since this is "MIT" we may need to take a more serious look at this."
Now here he is in this thread acting like none of that ever happened and this is something to laugh at.
frickin pathetic.
Posted on 12/18/19 at 3:26 pm to BoarEd
Calm down, BE. We need context. Search, find and link the subject thread before going all KSGamecock on me. The only “memories” that can be stored in DNA are genes. Genes are inherited instructions that affect the construction and maintenance of the body. They’re definitely not storehouses of experiential memories, though.
IIRC from the MIT thread, a claim has been made that changes in the expression of genes (epigenetics) can occur in individuals who can then pass this change on to their offspring.
The cell has been explored down to its atomic make-up and there aren’t any molecules whose functions are not known, especially in the DNA nucleus.
Everyday memories are stored in the brain because that’s where the neurons are. How they do it is still not clear but research continues.
Posted on 12/25/19 at 12:02 am to spacewrangler
The opposing lawyer must have been a moron to get something like that accepted as fact.
Posted on 12/28/19 at 10:20 pm to Kentucker
What about the soul?
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