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Posted on 10/13/22 at 12:50 pm to
Posted by Tiger_Claw
Little Rock, AR
Member since Nov 2013
5124 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 12:50 pm to
This makes me sad inside.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14919 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 1:31 pm to
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You are what your record says you are.

Nebraskans said the same thing last year.


Nebraska had hired an experienced HC. Drinkwitz wasn't an experienced HC when Sterk hired him. Next year will be his 4th year. That is when the team should be better.
This post was edited on 10/13/22 at 1:36 pm
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14919 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 1:49 pm to
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Vandy - W (maybe)
@USCe - L
UK - L
@UT - L (this will be very bad)
NMstate - W
Arky - L

Wakeup, Drink is a loser.

Losing a close game to UGA and you are saying all other SEC games will be a loss and only NM State will be the only win for the rest of the season. That is sad and you must really want Drinkwitz gone.
Posted by Mizzou Mule
St. Charles County, Missou-rah
Member since Sep 2014
3072 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 4:33 pm to
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That is sad and you must really want Drinkwitz gone.


Sad is Drinkwitz's record. He's a rookie like Odom. It's going to end the same way. Why prolong it?
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14919 posts
Posted on 10/14/22 at 2:39 am to
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That is sad and you must really want Drinkwitz gone.


Sad is Drinkwitz's record. He's a rookie like Odom. It's going to end the same way. Why prolong it?

You think he will never change? He didn't get the quarterback he wanted. Plus, the OL and receivers were not quite ready. I will give Drinkwitz another year to get the offense going. If he still struggling, then it will be time to make a change. No reason to fire him when recruiting and the defense is doing better. I remember years ago it takes time to get all the pieces. Look at Michigan. The HC was there for like 6 years. This year he is able to keep winning and play competitive football. You don't go out and fired people without given time. I guess Odom was a good example. He wasn't! Not the same thing. Odom couldn't recruit. Plus, he lost games when he shouldn't have in his 4th year against Wyoming. He beat that team 2 years before in a blowout fashion. He was going backwards. Also lost to Vandy in his last year. Drinkwitz is nowhere near that. I guess you need to let this go and wait for next year if you still think Drinkwitz is a bad HC. He might be able to win 5 more games. It depends on how the Vandy game goes. If he gets Cook going in the right direction or have Horn playing and makes it worthwhile. I am sorry you think Missouri roster should be loaded with 4* and 5* and high 3* talents. How is he going to do that in a short time? He is doing it the right way. Some like to go all out on portal and it is not good plus he did try get a quarterback from the portal and it didn't work out. Horn is his best chance for later this year or next year. I guess you not seeing the progress so far and Cook isn't the answer. What can he do right now throw in Horn and that might backfire.
Many was very upset with the way the defense played last year. I am pretty sure Drinkwitz must've spend a lot of time with the new DC to get the defense fix. I am not upset with that. The offense was going to take a step back due to not able to find a good quarterback from the transfer portal. He must've no choice to use Cook up to this point and not use Horn. I have no knowledge of why Horn was not given an opportunity to play so far. I do not know the situation and I will never know the reason.
Next year I believe Drinkwitz will ease up spending time with the DC since the defense has been lights out better.
He probably will spend a lot more time trying to get the offense fix. I am not sure if he will make a hire or two for the offense or whatever is needed to get the fix. This will be in year 4. That shall mean a much better team overall. Defense is now respectable, and the offense may surprise other teams next year since it shall be much improved offense and possible scheme change. I think this is what I predict will happen next year. That is why you give Drinkwitz another year.
This post was edited on 10/14/22 at 4:15 pm
Posted by Mizzou Mule
St. Charles County, Missou-rah
Member since Sep 2014
3072 posts
Posted on 10/14/22 at 10:22 am to
Lefty, that's a lot of words for "Oh, I hope and hope!" That's all you and Drinkwitz have. Stick with it.

13-16 is all that matters. That's called a trend. Most know that I now have little confidence in HC Drinkwitz turning this program around, while still hoping he does it very soon. We've all seen the rookie coach rerun before. I'll gladly eat the crow when I see a division or conference trophy. Two P5 road wins in three seasons doesn't cut it...two. SMH

Drinkwitz's good+ recruiting will soon start circling the drain without wins. Watch because it's starting.

This post was edited on 10/14/22 at 10:27 am
Posted by blueprint_one
Columbia, MO
Member since Oct 2015
1307 posts
Posted on 10/14/22 at 12:26 pm to
Absolutely no reason to retain him after another sub .500 season.

The "we are a QB away" is the biggest myth of Drinkwitz entire tenure here.

Brady is average nothing more, nothing less. We've won games 7+ games with a defense and running game this good with a service-able qb ala - James Franklin style.

You guys act like he's Corbin Berstresser.

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NAME PASS CMP ATT CMP% YDS/PA LONG PTD INT SACK QBR

7. Brady Cook, QB 1217 111 171 64.91 7.12 79 5 6 12 127.33
Posted by mizslu314
Dirty STL
Member since Sep 2013
15971 posts
Posted on 10/14/22 at 1:32 pm to
Brady isn't average, he's below average, and yes that's still better than Corbin.

That said, OL could help more obviously but ya we're an actual "average" QB away from a different season.

Also our amazing all star kicker botched a FG he makes 100/101 times, thats freaking unlucky. That said, if he makes that and we're 3 and 3 with close loses to UF and UGA everyone on here would be pretttttttty chill right now.

I hate that I sound like a Drink advocate, cause I'm pissed off at the guy right now too, but some here act like he's the worst hiring any program has ever made.

I'll have a firm opinion on drink come Nov 6th
Posted by mizslu314
Dirty STL
Member since Sep 2013
15971 posts
Posted on 10/14/22 at 1:33 pm to
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We've all seen the rookie coach rerun before.


He was never a rookie coach

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I'll gladly eat the crow when I see a division or conference trophy.


If this is your mark for any mizzou coach, you'll be miserable the rest of your life.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14919 posts
Posted on 10/14/22 at 4:35 pm to
You are quick to judge on Drinkwitz by lack of HC experience. I understand that part, but he is making improvements. Plus, the first year was a washup due to COVID -19. No Spring training and there were limit time and things he couldn't do without a normal season. He was in his first season at that time. It really did hurt him over the others who had already been hired at other schools the year before or for a while. That is huge disadvantage to Drinkwitz. Then there is the DC shuffle and now it is on the right track. I guess you know how to coach a college football team. Why aren't you applying for the job? No experience is needed, and you know what need to be done and it is easy to do at a place where it has been a struggled over the years. Even Gary Pinkel Struggled from time to time. He was lucky he wasn't fired very early in his career. I was one of the fans who wanted him gone. I was wrong. Don't be like me.
Posted by mizslu314
Dirty STL
Member since Sep 2013
15971 posts
Posted on 10/14/22 at 5:25 pm to
Also, drink HAS to get credit for the baker hire right? That looks like one heck of a find.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14919 posts
Posted on 10/14/22 at 5:32 pm to
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Also, drink HAS to get credit for the baker hire right? That looks like one heck of a find.


I think there is a good chance Drinkwitz would stay like Gary Pinkel did. Why go elsewhere when you got pretty much everything you need right here in Columbia. Kansas is going to lose the HC at the end of the year for sure. Drinkwitz on the other hand is similar to GP and that is a good thing and should get the team to be good next year or two. I mean a really good team.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111510 posts
Posted on 10/14/22 at 10:28 pm to
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Absolutely no reason to retain him after another sub .500 season.


This is retarded. Drink isn’t getting fired this year. And he shouldn’t be.
Posted by Tiger_Claw
Little Rock, AR
Member since Nov 2013
5124 posts
Posted on 10/15/22 at 8:43 am to
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This is retarded. Drink isn’t getting fired this year. And he shouldn’t be.


I agree. Though, I wish they would force his hand and push him to get an OC. I think he is much better at the management/recruiting side than he is calling offensive plays.
Posted by Mizsioux
Member since Feb 2017
748 posts
Posted on 10/15/22 at 9:21 am to
If drink gets fired at any point it’ll be the classic pride goeth before the fall. I think he’s proven he can be a manager with what he’s done on defense. It’ll come down to if he can swallow his pride and let go of the offense.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111510 posts
Posted on 10/15/22 at 9:31 am to
I’m not sure it’s to the point that force is required.

I’m sure the AD is going to (and is) making suggestions.

In the end, his record and fan engagement will drive his future at Mizzou.
Posted by blueprint_one
Columbia, MO
Member since Oct 2015
1307 posts
Posted on 10/15/22 at 2:38 pm to
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This is retarded.



Currently sitting at #26 on the hot seat tracker. It's only going to get worse.

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Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14919 posts
Posted on 10/15/22 at 4:49 pm to
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Currently sitting at #26 on the hot seat tracker. It's only going to get worse.

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Are you agreeing if Drinkwitz goes 6-6, 5-7, or 4-8 he should be fired? I do not. He is making some adjustments but didn't get everything set due to lack of experienced and only a short leach since the first year was a washup. That means he had only 2 years and the first year without Spring game and normal season without any restrictions. Got to give him another year and had to replace two DCs. It is now coming together on offense. No way you fired him when the defense is much improved and then now, he will need to focus a lot more on the offense and there is one quarterback that should be the starter next year if Cook isn't getting it done all the way to the end. Then there is OL that are coming in and others that aren't playing or redshirted. He is getting it moving in the right direction. If you are not seeing it. This year is the quarterback, OL, and wide receivers not getting it done. It doesn't mean it's not fixable. He has the pieces to get it done next year. That is why you will see the situation right now is play it out with what given this year on offense and wait until next year to fix those issues. I believe he is one or two years a way to having a solid team. Including depth and good backups. That is why you need to give him extra year. If the AD isn't agreeing to give him another year, then coaches will steer clear of wanting to replace Drinkwitz. It is that simple all HCs will want the time to get it fix. Drinkwitz wouldn't have had the time to get it fix. Most see it has a 4-year process.
Posted by Literalist
Minnesota
Member since Oct 2014
3477 posts
Posted on 10/15/22 at 4:57 pm to
“What men and women need is encouragement. Their natural resisting powers should be strengthened, not weakened ... Instead of always harping on a man's faults, tell him of his virtues. Try to pull him out of his rut ... Hold up to him his better self, his real self that can dare and do and win out!”
? Eleanor H. Porter, Pollyanna
Posted by Drydock
Osage County
Member since Oct 2013
6745 posts
Posted on 10/15/22 at 6:46 pm to
Looking at how the game is being called today, if only we had a quarterback who could throw downfield and get all those PI calls we're leaving on the field.
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