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Posted on 11/21/19 at 1:37 pm to outlawjoseywales
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Success at Minnesota and Iowa State show our people that it can be done with a program like ours.
Did those two go cheap?
Posted on 11/21/19 at 1:58 pm to notsince98
Iowa State hired Campbell for 2.1 mil, Minnesota hired Fleck for 3.6 mil. A&M hired Jimbo for 75 mil. Simply shelling out money doesn't seem to guarantee much
Posted on 11/21/19 at 2:05 pm to notsince98
Minnesota hired Fleck for roughly what we’re paying Odom now.
Campbell was hired for about what we hired Barry for - his incentives took him over $2M but his base salary was only $265k.
Campbell was hired for about what we hired Barry for - his incentives took him over $2M but his base salary was only $265k.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 2:07 pm to MIZ_COU
A big name hire was never the way Mizzou operates and justifiably so. They just need to stop hiring alumni because they are in the conversation for the job.
This post was edited on 11/21/19 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 11/21/19 at 2:56 pm to notsince98
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Did those two go cheap?
Matt Campbell got a starting salary of 2.1 million then a raise to 3.5 million.
PJ Fleck got 3.5 million to start.
Both were the top young and upcoming coaches the year they were hired by their current employer. A bidding war the MU will not get in.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 3:45 pm to outlawjoseywales
I got a name Josh Heupel
Posted on 11/21/19 at 5:44 pm to Saltonking44
No, he's not proved he can successfully run a program yet.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 8:17 pm to Saltonking44
My only concern about Heupal is he can recruit a QB, but can he recruit all positions? I guess if he hired 2 recruiting mercenaries it would work.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 10:03 pm to MIZ_COU
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I’ll 2nd on Kiffin
Kiffen isn't the tiniest bit interested in moving north of Alabama
IF we are making a hire soon and IF he hasn’t already gotten a job by then you can bet he’d be interested in another SEC job
Posted on 11/21/19 at 10:05 pm to surgicalvenom
frick Heupel. Hell no. He’s in the process of destroying what Frost built at UCF as we speak. He’s a no personality dickhead too. The job he has now is the best one he’ll ever get
Posted on 11/21/19 at 10:06 pm to surgicalvenom
Huepel can’t recruit QBs though. That was a knock on him at Oklahoma and it’s part of Mizzou’s problems now. His QBs recruited to Mizzou are Powell and Wilson.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 10:22 pm to surgicalvenom
Kiffin would be interesting...$$ talk and he could triple his salary at a P5 program, but something about him strikes me as lazy, or unmotivated at times. I don't know that he's ever shown he can build a program...
BUT...can he recruit? SEC programs do not have luxury to build. Have to be able to recruit at a high level...finishing 12-14 every year in SEC will never cut it.
Urban Meyer (haha)...but maybe Luke Fickell
Bryan Harsin...maybe
Steve Sarkisian...
Other than that...idk, risk of more the same and just stick with BO.
BUT...can he recruit? SEC programs do not have luxury to build. Have to be able to recruit at a high level...finishing 12-14 every year in SEC will never cut it.
Urban Meyer (haha)...but maybe Luke Fickell
Bryan Harsin...maybe
Steve Sarkisian...
Other than that...idk, risk of more the same and just stick with BO.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 10:22 pm to JesusQuintana
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IF we are making a hire soon and IF he hasn’t already gotten a job by then you can bet he’d be interested in another SEC job
Arky fans have Kiffin on their list.
I notice SDS- Stay or Go Which SEC coaches go or stay. One fan posted to Keep BO and hire an OC. Another posted to hire Major Applewhite as OC.
This post was edited on 11/21/19 at 10:50 pm
Posted on 11/21/19 at 10:41 pm to MIZ58
Recruiting would be the major reason I’d want Kiffin.
I’m certain he’d recruit very well. He is at FAU. Now, that’s all relative of course but getting to between 8-10 in the SEC on a yearly basis would be a great job at Mizzou.
Now, that’s not a huge difference really and it still comes down to development but I think he could bring some energy and some spotlight
I’m certain he’d recruit very well. He is at FAU. Now, that’s all relative of course but getting to between 8-10 in the SEC on a yearly basis would be a great job at Mizzou.
Now, that’s not a huge difference really and it still comes down to development but I think he could bring some energy and some spotlight
Posted on 11/21/19 at 10:44 pm to JesusQuintana
Hell, I would have given Les Miles a strong look had we pulled the trigger on BO last year.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:55 pm to MIZ58
I remember way back in the Big 12 conference when Fans wanted the OC fired or Gary Pinkel fired. Gary Pinkel was very loyalty to the coaching staffs and would not fire anyone for a long time. It went up and down for a while. This seems to be pretty similar situation.
Posted on 11/22/19 at 8:59 am to TrueLefty
Heupel's offenses at MU put up big numbers against lesser opponents and did nothing against real defenses.
I would argue his offenses cost MU a few wins against some of those more talented teams. Too many 3-and-out in 30 seconds drives, over and over and over.
If you take away the one top season from each of their head coaching careers, Campbell and Fleck's record looks a lot like Odom's in lesser conferences. They are not a slam dunk solution for success.
And I don't think they would even consider a move to the SEC at a school that does not have some established recruiting advantages. Tenn, Auburn, A&M - maybe.
MU - Nope I'll stay in my comfy conference Thank you.
Both seem to be rising, yes. But that same argument was made for Odom after his success at Memphis and big first year as DC at MU.
And yes, the Pinkel comparisons from years in the Big 12 with rose-colored glasses grow wearisome.
I would argue his offenses cost MU a few wins against some of those more talented teams. Too many 3-and-out in 30 seconds drives, over and over and over.
If you take away the one top season from each of their head coaching careers, Campbell and Fleck's record looks a lot like Odom's in lesser conferences. They are not a slam dunk solution for success.
And I don't think they would even consider a move to the SEC at a school that does not have some established recruiting advantages. Tenn, Auburn, A&M - maybe.
MU - Nope I'll stay in my comfy conference Thank you.
Both seem to be rising, yes. But that same argument was made for Odom after his success at Memphis and big first year as DC at MU.
And yes, the Pinkel comparisons from years in the Big 12 with rose-colored glasses grow wearisome.
Posted on 11/22/19 at 9:44 am to Tiger97
If this person wanted to be a HC and MU would PAY him I would go after Brent Venables. Big 12 experience so he knows this part of the country. Cleaned up Clemson's defense as soon as he got there.
But he should be a HC by now. So he either does not want to be or he is waiting for Saban to retire so Dabo can go home and he can be Clemson's coach.
After typing this I have realized there is no way he would come here. But he would be a great hire.
But he should be a HC by now. So he either does not want to be or he is waiting for Saban to retire so Dabo can go home and he can be Clemson's coach.
After typing this I have realized there is no way he would come here. But he would be a great hire.
Posted on 11/22/19 at 3:06 pm to JesusQuintana
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Recruiting would be the major reason I’d want Kiffin.
IMO whoever comes in has to with an understanding to maintain Mizzou's Texas relationships.
We saw what happened when Pinkel shifted focus to GA and FL.
We can try to recruit nationally but Texas has always been productive territory for us.
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