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re: Eliah Drinkwitz will be the next head football coach at Mizzou
Posted on 12/1/19 at 12:21 am to TrueLefty
Posted on 12/1/19 at 12:21 am to TrueLefty
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FSU and Arkansas to an extent are both better jobs that can pay more than we can. This is just what’s open now. Norvell will get a “better job” Being realistic about who will come here. I want somebody young that will bring some energy. I want an offensive coach who can put up points. Modern football is about offense. They average over 7 yards per play and run more than they throw. Only two teams in the country that can claim this. ULL and Ohio St. The fact that he has SEC roots and has coached under two great coaches are pluses. ReallY? Arkansas? What are you taking or smoking? Would a coach go to get killed and fired without any chance to build a foundation? Mizzou is in a lot better shape and are in an easier division than Arkansas! Look at Texas A&M! They are a much better team than Arkansas and are a better program as well. But they are not winning big as they should be getting better but are staying the same as 7-5 average. Missouri is in a lot better position in the SEC east and have beaten Arkansas for a while now. But we are going to get a better coach so we can compete in the SEC east division. Not settle for middle of the pack in the SEC. Any coach can see which school have a much better chance to compete for the division and win 8-11 wins in a season will point to Missouri over Arkansas!
What happening to you?! You do not see the bigger Picture? Missouri did the right way to fire Odom at the end and gave him time to fix it but failed. Arkansas? They are so bad and mishandled the hiring and firing Chad Morris. Now they have lost a lot of recruits and are in a bigger hole to filled it up with the next head coach. Also depth is a problem with some that transferred out.
This post was edited on 12/1/19 at 12:30 am
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Posted on 12/1/19 at 7:48 am to JesusQuintana
As I recall, one of your multifaceted defenses of Odom being fired was, if we hire a replacement that was successful, there was a high risk of him moving on to bigger and better things, and we would be back to square one with hiring another coach. That person you were leery of is Kiffin (history backs this) yet here you are fist pumping for him. Amusing...
Posted on 12/1/19 at 7:49 am to MIZ_COU
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I'm starting to get this weird feeling it might be Heupel, but I'm hoping it's just gas
What would be wrong with Heupel? I would be excited about that hire.
Posted on 12/1/19 at 8:04 am to zou_keeper
I would not.
I think Heupel would be better than Odom.
But still...
I think Heupel would be better than Odom.
But still...
Posted on 12/1/19 at 8:13 am to zou_keeper
His 10 million dollar buyout for 1.
Lane Kiffin isn’t leaving FAU and if by some chance he does it won’t be for Missouri.
Billy Napier isn’t coming either bc he wants southern SEC job. Probably wait for SC or miss State. Ole miss type.
Arkansas is going to pay Matt Campbell 6/million a year to lead that program. Jerry Jones is calling the shots.
Mizzou is the better job based on the East division and lower expectations. The new coach will follow BO and not GP.
Arkansas will pay more, has a more rabid fan base, better money support. Much harder division but all the coach has to be is Bobby P and folks will be happy.
Lane Kiffin isn’t leaving FAU and if by some chance he does it won’t be for Missouri.
Billy Napier isn’t coming either bc he wants southern SEC job. Probably wait for SC or miss State. Ole miss type.
Arkansas is going to pay Matt Campbell 6/million a year to lead that program. Jerry Jones is calling the shots.
Mizzou is the better job based on the East division and lower expectations. The new coach will follow BO and not GP.
Arkansas will pay more, has a more rabid fan base, better money support. Much harder division but all the coach has to be is Bobby P and folks will be happy.
Posted on 12/1/19 at 8:28 am to TrueLefty
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Arkansas? They are so bad and mishandled the hiring and firing Chad Morris. Now they have lost a lot of recruits and are in a bigger hole to filled it up with the next head coach. Also depth is a problem with some that transferred out.
We had to can him when we did. If you thought we lost some recruits after he got canned I can assure you that we were losing even more before he got fired. Not to mention the money we were losing due to poor attendance.
Also, to borrow a line from NFL and Pro Wrestling great Ernie Ladd, "the natives are getting restless." If we had not fired Morris after WKU came into our stadium and whipped us with a QB that transferred from Arkansas the big money boosters would have flipped out. See the Chad Morris fiasco for what happens when our boosters get involved in the coaching search.
The most interesting coach I see out there right now is Clark out of UAB. With what he's pulled off at UAB I'm wondering if he cures lepers and walks on water on his days off.
The only problem I can see with Clark is that he's an Alabama lifer. He's never coached outside the state from what I can tell. That could hamper him recruiting at someplace like Arkansas or Missouri.
Flickell might be a solid choice for y'all. He doesn't have a ton of ties to the South but lets face it, y'all are basically a Midwestern state. If you can match Flickell with some folks who do have recruiting ties to the area, and I'd keep whoever has specialized in poaching from Arkansas, than I think he can get you through the sanctions without too much pain.
Posted on 12/1/19 at 8:37 am to Arksulli
Yes. I think we’ll see more of that going forward. If you know it’s not the guy in the middle of year 2, stop the bleeding and move on. We should have fired Kim Anderson after one year.
Posted on 12/1/19 at 8:41 am to the808bass
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Yes. I think we’ll see more of that going forward. If you know it’s not the guy in the middle of year 2, stop the bleeding and move on. We should have fired Kim Anderson after one year.
Amen. You do yourself no favors keeping someone that you know can't do the job on the payroll. Plus, with the early signing period in football, pulling the trigger early to get a jump on the coaching search might become more common place.
Posted on 12/1/19 at 8:51 am to Mizzou4ever
I know it’s crazy that someone can actually change their opinion with new information! Wild stuff!
Odom working out would have been best. He didn’t. The energy around the program is at all time low levels. Safe, boring hire is not going to change that
Odom working out would have been best. He didn’t. The energy around the program is at all time low levels. Safe, boring hire is not going to change that
Posted on 12/1/19 at 8:55 am to zou_keeper
Heupel is slowly dismantling UCF after being handed the keys to a Ferrari.
Not to mention he is a a-hole and a no personality goober.
He’d be an awful hire to be sure.
Not to mention he is a a-hole and a no personality goober.
He’d be an awful hire to be sure.
Posted on 12/1/19 at 9:22 am to JesusQuintana
Yeah but that's a pretty radical change from worrying about a successful vagabond, to supporting one. 
Posted on 12/1/19 at 9:30 am to JesusQuintana
A safe and boring hire can absolutely change that. Winning cures all as opposed to endorsing a hire that may have all the bells and whistles.
Posted on 12/1/19 at 9:33 am to Mizzou4ever
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Winning cures all
This is what gets people in the stadium, as opposed to hiring a dip shite that loves being on twitter.
Posted on 12/1/19 at 9:47 am to Mizzou4ever
Well, you know...the bells and whistles hire can actually win games as well.
We don’t have to make a hire that will put the fanbase asleep to win games. In fact, it’s likely a deterrent. It’s definitely a deterrent in recruiting.
We don’t have to make a hire that will put the fanbase asleep to win games. In fact, it’s likely a deterrent. It’s definitely a deterrent in recruiting.
Posted on 12/1/19 at 9:57 am to JesusQuintana
Yeah we tried that approach in another sport with Quin. While I liked Quin then and now, how did that ultimately turn out? Unless Kiffin has shown he has matured (which his tweets prove he hasn't) the school that hires him is taking a big risk. In Mizzous situation, we should stay clear from that. Clawson would be a good hire, although I'm more intrigued with Norvell and Clark.
Posted on 12/1/19 at 10:02 am to navynuke
Us old guys call him a dipshit, but he does shite like that because that's what the recruits like to see. I will put up with his antics for 6, 4 star kids a year, even if it's only 3 years before he moves on.
Posted on 12/1/19 at 10:10 am to Mizzou4ever
Lol, Quin had us in the elite 8 and at one point ranked number 1 in the country. His drug habit did him in, not the fact that he was a flashy hire. Not sure how you can bash Quin, but advocate for booger sugar Norvell
ANY hire is a risk. ALL OF THEM. We are without any doubt rolling the dice. So why in the world wouldn’t you go for the highest ceiling possible.
If we hire Clawson (we won’t, listen to what Sterk says), then you might as well replace all the bleachers with beds so that the few fans that actually show up next year will at least be comfortable as they nap through the games
ANY hire is a risk. ALL OF THEM. We are without any doubt rolling the dice. So why in the world wouldn’t you go for the highest ceiling possible.
If we hire Clawson (we won’t, listen to what Sterk says), then you might as well replace all the bleachers with beds so that the few fans that actually show up next year will at least be comfortable as they nap through the games
Posted on 12/1/19 at 10:10 am to surgicalvenom
He is an undisciplined turd with a team that plays as such. They average just as many penalties per game as Missouri did and have trended up in that category every year he has been there. frick that. You can't gift the other team 60+ yards per game and win in the SEC.
Posted on 12/1/19 at 10:15 am to navynuke
Yet you want Norvell who the same thing can be said about
Posted on 12/1/19 at 10:25 am to JesusQuintana
Over Kiffen? Yes. Over Clawson? No.
Explain what is boring about Clawson's on the field product.
Explain what is boring about Clawson's on the field product.
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