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We all just need to calm down…
Posted on 10/3/21 at 4:19 pm
Posted on 10/3/21 at 4:19 pm
Yeah we lost in terrible Mullen fashion. But he is the coach we have at the moment and probably the 2nd best coach we’ve had since Spurrier left. What I think we should do is keep asking him the tough questions after games like this. If we continue to do so, he will do 1 of 2 things.
1) Wake up and completely change. Which would be great for us.
2) Continue to have his Kiffin sized ego and leave on his own accord. Then, hopefully he leaves at a time when we could upgrade.
He’s still a “young” coach if you compare him to Kirby or Dabo. But his head isn’t right. And it’s mainly his own fault. So, he could finally wake up and do what has to be done.
The “outcoached” question was a great question and you could tell it didn’t sit well with him. Let him get that question again against LSU in 2 weeks when we lose to O again in BR. That’ll really rustle his jimmies.
I don’t know if you heard it or not, but Mullen actually admitted to intentionally put Emory in tough situations against USF. Perhaps he did the same thing against Bama, UT, and UK. He could totally be “playing with his food”, i.e. experimenting, to see how this team responds. But that’s just me being optimistic.
1) Wake up and completely change. Which would be great for us.
2) Continue to have his Kiffin sized ego and leave on his own accord. Then, hopefully he leaves at a time when we could upgrade.
He’s still a “young” coach if you compare him to Kirby or Dabo. But his head isn’t right. And it’s mainly his own fault. So, he could finally wake up and do what has to be done.
The “outcoached” question was a great question and you could tell it didn’t sit well with him. Let him get that question again against LSU in 2 weeks when we lose to O again in BR. That’ll really rustle his jimmies.
I don’t know if you heard it or not, but Mullen actually admitted to intentionally put Emory in tough situations against USF. Perhaps he did the same thing against Bama, UT, and UK. He could totally be “playing with his food”, i.e. experimenting, to see how this team responds. But that’s just me being optimistic.
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Posted on 10/3/21 at 6:01 pm to finchmeister08
If that's the case of him wanting to put EJ5 in tough situations. Then why in the Frick with 3 timeouts and a little over 2 minutes did they not try to go down the field at the end of the first half and try to get some kind of score instead of sit on the ball and not run your 2 minute hurry up offense.
Posted on 10/3/21 at 6:09 pm to AlbinoGator
All he has done in reality is try to make things easy passing wise for Jones. That halftime run the clock out mess was crazy.
Posted on 10/3/21 at 9:19 pm to finchmeister08
The team was playing like shite. Was it 7 procedure calls or 8, I can't remember? When you have a situation like that you just try to figure out how to get out of there with a win and if we wouldn't have gotten the kick blocked we probably would have done so. I am not placing any blame.
Last year vs LSU it was because he held out his best player, but he did that last week vs Tennessee and we were fine. They were both back for Kentucky and we still lost.
Sometimes it isn't the fault of the coach or any one player. Kentucky had a great defensive plan and gave great effort. Congratulate them and move on. It's not the end of the world. We have a lot of football yet to be played and I am still excited watching this team. One bad game isn't going to spoil it for me.
Last year vs LSU it was because he held out his best player, but he did that last week vs Tennessee and we were fine. They were both back for Kentucky and we still lost.
Sometimes it isn't the fault of the coach or any one player. Kentucky had a great defensive plan and gave great effort. Congratulate them and move on. It's not the end of the world. We have a lot of football yet to be played and I am still excited watching this team. One bad game isn't going to spoil it for me.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 5:52 am to bigDgator
I agree that the end of the first half would've been the perfect time to test EJ and get him some critical 2 minute offense playing time. Bad decision by Mullen to not take advantage.
The fact that we had so many false starts and kept having them in critical times says a ton to me. Is it the kids jumping early, yes, but it's on Mullen to get that shite under control.
The fact that we had so many false starts and kept having them in critical times says a ton to me. Is it the kids jumping early, yes, but it's on Mullen to get that shite under control.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 7:18 am to finchmeister08
Rough night for sure. My thoughts
1) We are very limited at QB, stats look good between the 20s but not when we need to score.
2) Tackling still an issue. They should start having tackling drills every day, full speed until it improves.
3) Play calling is suspect at times. Mullen seems to be hard headed, (no shite, capt obvious)
4) Team is undisciplined, way too many penalties. Coaching?
5) Special teams is a liability
6)No killer instinct, could be a lack of leadership.
At this point we need to swallow hard and accept another 8-4 season. Then there needs to be coaching changes, but not the Head Coach.
1) We are very limited at QB, stats look good between the 20s but not when we need to score.
2) Tackling still an issue. They should start having tackling drills every day, full speed until it improves.
3) Play calling is suspect at times. Mullen seems to be hard headed, (no shite, capt obvious)
4) Team is undisciplined, way too many penalties. Coaching?
5) Special teams is a liability
6)No killer instinct, could be a lack of leadership.
At this point we need to swallow hard and accept another 8-4 season. Then there needs to be coaching changes, but not the Head Coach.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 7:39 am to bigDgator
I think Mullen is too hard headed for his own good (see Franks/Trask). After watching him and Jones during a timeout there is almost zero chance I think he switches QBs without another loss.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 8:26 am to finchmeister08
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We all just need to calm down…
I'd say most people are calmed down now but most people also know what Mullen is.
Hes a 9-3/10-2 ceiling coach that doesn't recruit well enough to win championships, and also has 1-2 games every year where his teams flat out don't show up.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 8:27 am to bigDgator
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The team was playing like shite. Was it 7 procedure calls or 8, I can't remember? When you have a situation like that you just try to figure out how to get out of there with a win and if we wouldn't have gotten the kick blocked we probably would have done so. I am not placing any blame.
Last year vs LSU it was because he held out his best player, but he did that last week vs Tennessee and we were fine. They were both back for Kentucky and we still lost.
Sometimes it isn't the fault of the coach or any one player. Kentucky had a great defensive plan and gave great effort. Congratulate them and move on. It's not the end of the world. We have a lot of football yet to be played and I am still excited watching this team. One bad game isn't going to spoil it for me.
You are 100% right, yet also this is where our fanbase is.
We're perfectly accepting of this, and this is scary.
Of course I've became numb to this kind of shite and sort of half-expect it every week, so I supposed I'm part of the problem.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 1:29 pm to boXerrumble
I'm not accepting anything. He's an arrogant mediocre football coach.
He is 2-2 vs. Kentucky. And if Franks doesn't get injured in Lexington, he's probably 1-3.
He started the wrong QB (Franks), for a season and a half.
He's 3-5 in his last 8 games. The 3 wins are over FAU, USF and UT.... That's Muschamp territory.
Grantham basically mailed in the 2020 season with a defense that allowed 30.8 pts. per game. And kept his job.
Hevesy is a horrible football coach and lazy recruiter. Our O line play has been mediocre/bad for 3 seasons now. 8 false start penalties. 6 of them were on 3rd or 4th down, Saturday night. That is a unprepared, unfocused poorly coached O line.
He is 2-2 vs. Kentucky. And if Franks doesn't get injured in Lexington, he's probably 1-3.
He started the wrong QB (Franks), for a season and a half.
He's 3-5 in his last 8 games. The 3 wins are over FAU, USF and UT.... That's Muschamp territory.
Grantham basically mailed in the 2020 season with a defense that allowed 30.8 pts. per game. And kept his job.
Hevesy is a horrible football coach and lazy recruiter. Our O line play has been mediocre/bad for 3 seasons now. 8 false start penalties. 6 of them were on 3rd or 4th down, Saturday night. That is a unprepared, unfocused poorly coached O line.
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Posted on 10/4/21 at 4:08 pm to finchmeister08
Its hard to calm down when you’re watching the game with a High School FB Coach who was calling the weak spots before the ball was snapped. He could see the adjustments needed, why can’t Mullen and/or Grantham?
Posted on 10/4/21 at 4:42 pm to GaryGator
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He is 2-2 vs. Kentucky. And if Franks doesn't get injured in Lexington, he's probably 1-3.
Even with Franks going down we still should have lost in 2019. UK missed a chip shot FG to go ahead with a minute left. He should be 1-3 against UK.
Posted on 10/5/21 at 11:13 am to UFMatt
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1) We are very limited at QB, stats look good between the 20s but not when we need to score. 2) Tackling still an issue. They should start having tackling drills every day, full speed until it improves. 3) Play calling is suspect at times. Mullen seems to be hard headed, (no shite, capt obvious) 4) Team is undisciplined, way too many penalties. Coaching? 5) Special teams is a liability 6)No killer instinct, could be a lack of leadership.
Throw in the mediocre recruiting and it’s the perfect storm.
Looking a lot like 8-4. Maybe 9-3 if Mullen checks his ego and pulls his head out of his arse to see the light of day.
Posted on 10/5/21 at 12:57 pm to finchmeister08
I predicted 8-4 at the beginning of the year with losses to Bama, Georgia, Missouri, and LSU.
Well it looks like Missouri is bad, and Kentucky much better than I thought. So that's a wash. UF will rush for 500 yards on Missouri.
LSU also looks beatable, and the rest of the schedule is GARBAGE.
So really, unless UF lays another turd like the UK game, they will probably overachieve my prediction and go 9-3, pending what should be a very evenly matched LSU game.
It is what it is. The way they have recruited, unless Mullen calls a perfect game, they are never really going to win more than 10-11 games a year, with 8-9 in the down years.
And there isn't a coach out there that is going to do better as long as Saban is in the conference.
So adjust your expectations, and just try to enjoy some football.
Well it looks like Missouri is bad, and Kentucky much better than I thought. So that's a wash. UF will rush for 500 yards on Missouri.
LSU also looks beatable, and the rest of the schedule is GARBAGE.
So really, unless UF lays another turd like the UK game, they will probably overachieve my prediction and go 9-3, pending what should be a very evenly matched LSU game.
It is what it is. The way they have recruited, unless Mullen calls a perfect game, they are never really going to win more than 10-11 games a year, with 8-9 in the down years.
And there isn't a coach out there that is going to do better as long as Saban is in the conference.
So adjust your expectations, and just try to enjoy some football.
Posted on 10/5/21 at 1:51 pm to slayerxing
i'm hoping 9-3 but thinking 8-4 unless something changes
Posted on 10/5/21 at 2:35 pm to slayerxing
We can't be playing 2nd fiddle to Georgia most years. 9-3 years will mean we are as long as Smart is recruiting like he is. Georgia went 11-1 pre SECCGs in 17,18 and 19. In 2020 they had 2 losses and one was Bama. We have to be 10-2+ with the head to head win to have any chance of winning the East with what is going on now.
Posted on 10/6/21 at 10:46 am to finchmeister08
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Yeah we lost in terrible Mullen fashion. But he is the coach we have at the moment and probably the 2nd best coach we’ve had since Spurrier left. What I think we should do is keep asking him the tough questions after games like this. If we continue to do so, he will do 1 of 2 things.
1) Wake up and completely change. Which would be great for us.
It is what it is at this point. I have spoken my piece on Mullen. I am a grown man and have no time for “I told you so’s”. I’d rather have solutions than identify the obvious problems with our current head coach.
Mullen is going to win 70% of his games here and consistently have us in the top 15 for the most part. He’s not a terrible coach he just isn’t a great coach. His overall profundity of offensive schemes has instilled a very stubborn in game philosophy of not adapting when things aren’t working.
He reminds me of Richt at UGA — the broad scope of their overall coaching resumes, not the fact that the two of them have the same coaching styles or flaws. They both have the exact same winning percentage, they both average very similar recruiting class numbers, they both average at least 1 “wtf” game every season, and they both seem to be good but not great head coaches. I just pray our Athletic department sacks up and pulls the trigger at the right time bc UGA is cheating their balls of and pulling some absolute studs onto that campus and if we wait too long they will go nuclear while we are stuck in neutral.
Posted on 10/6/21 at 10:50 am to FireDanMullen
Ok, who we hiring??
Posted on 10/6/21 at 12:02 pm to dbuchanon
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Ok, who we hiring??
I’d be open to wait it out until we find a sure thing home run. Going 9-3 and averaging 8-12 ranked recruiting classes isn’t the end of the world. It will leave the next head coach with a great foundation. I don’t want to be going 9-3 consistently at all - I believe we should be competing for national titles every single year. We’re the University of Florida, we are one of 5 schools in the last 40 years to win national titles in 2/3 years. Only us and Bama have won 3 titles in a 12 year span since 1960. We are sitting in the state of Florida - one of the hottest recruiting beds in the country - with Miami and FSU completely down right now. Not to mention the East is literally just us and UGA. I know we just loss to Kentucky but they aren’t competing for SEC titles anytime soon and neither is Tennessee. The time is ripe. But I’d be willing to wait it out instead of pulling the trigger and turning into Tennessee. It’s been a while since we’ve been an elite program now, I’d like to get back there.
Posted on 10/7/21 at 11:34 am to FireDanMullen
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I’d be open to wait it out until we find a sure thing home run.
Didn't everyone think this was Chip Kelly, Scott Frost, Jimbo Fisher and Tom Herman just a few years ago?
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