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re: UGA is officially a problem
Posted on 12/22/17 at 11:13 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Posted on 12/22/17 at 11:13 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Outside of Florida what makes you think those offenses will improve?
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Posted on 12/22/17 at 11:21 am to Porter Osborne Jr
they may get worse, lol. the east is a two horse race with uf behind uga right now. the only elite east teams this decade are uga 2013 and 2017. 2012 uf was good, but not elite.
we have to close the talent gap with uga and the western elites.
we have to close the talent gap with uga and the western elites.
Posted on 12/22/17 at 11:21 am to Porter Osborne Jr
Just so we don't let this go forgotten.
Did you know the East only has one defense better than 50 in the entire division? (Florida at 30)
Did you know the East only has one offense better than 100 in the entire division? (Missouri)
Kentucky is ranked 103.
Vanderbilt is ranked 104.
South Carolina is ranked 108.
Florida is ranked 111.
Tennessee is ranked 124.
Because there's no way that they can get worse.
It is literally the worst East since its inception.
Did you know the East only has one defense better than 50 in the entire division? (Florida at 30)
Did you know the East only has one offense better than 100 in the entire division? (Missouri)
Kentucky is ranked 103.
Vanderbilt is ranked 104.
South Carolina is ranked 108.
Florida is ranked 111.
Tennessee is ranked 124.
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Outside of Florida what makes you think those offenses will improve?
Because there's no way that they can get worse.
It is literally the worst East since its inception.Posted on 12/22/17 at 11:26 am to TJGator1215
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I didn't think Kirby would be this good. 6 5*s. Just wow. Heres to Mullen beating Kirby and locking down the state!!
He's doing well, but let's pump the brakes here...
Still a lot TBD. You can't build a Bama like dynasty in the span of 2 years.
He's on his way yes... But let's relax.
Posted on 12/22/17 at 11:27 am to SailorGator
Eh, Missouri is building itself up a little. Tennessee can't be worse than they were this year and Kentucky is slowly getting better and better. Muschamp seems comfortable at SC and will have a new OC soon (lol) and of course we're going to be over those suspensions next year and hopefully have a healthier team with more depth.
The off-season shuffle is anyone's guess, though.
The off-season shuffle is anyone's guess, though.
Posted on 12/22/17 at 11:31 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
No way they can get worse?
UT- whole new offense so it may take time
Mizzou- new OC and OL coaches that were the best on the staff
UK- losses Boom
USC- new OC so it may take time
They may not get worse but it’s likely they won’t get better.
UT- whole new offense so it may take time
Mizzou- new OC and OL coaches that were the best on the staff
UK- losses Boom
USC- new OC so it may take time
They may not get worse but it’s likely they won’t get better.
Posted on 12/22/17 at 11:50 am to Porter Osborne Jr
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UT- whole new offense so it may take time
I can say definitively that they will by chance be better than 124th in the country lol.
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Mizzou- new OC and OL coaches that were the best on the staff
If Lock goes they'll probably get a lot worse, but I wasn't talking about them because it's more likely definitely.
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UK- losses Boom
Kentucky is quietly recruiting very well for their program and have shown real progress every year.
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USC- new OC so it may take time
They will always be bad at offense as long as Muschamp is still their HC. So you may have gotten me there.
But, I will say: UT, Florida and Kentucky will get better.
3 out of the 5.Posted on 12/22/17 at 12:37 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Enough to make it interesting though? They can improve and still be terrible on offense.
Posted on 1/9/18 at 12:52 pm to TJGator1215
Some interesting quotes. BUMP LULZ.
Completely wrong.
So after watching the game, the 'scheme' point of the matter comes again. UGA was constantly in 3rd and long and was bailed out by Michel, who is head and shoulders better than any player on the team. Fromm had a decent game, but was wildly inaccurate due to pressure and showed me what I had suspected: He is an average quarterback playing in a great offense.
His receivers bailed him out almost all with his throws being off-target.
What also exposed itself is: Kirby is like Muschamp in the sense that he absolutely cannot adjust -- especially in big games.
In the second half of the NCG, Alabama scored 26 points with a freshman quarterback with their best receiver being a freshman and their best RB being a freshman.
It reminds me of Muschamp because the defense works against teams he absolutely out-classes talent wise, but collapses against mobile quarterbacks who can throw. I understand the game was close, but the fact is:
If Alabama had started Tua, the game would have been an absolute blowout.
Alabama had 46 total yards in the first half with zero points.
They came out and put up 26 with 325 yards. That defense is losing all of their best players, and that offense is not going to replace Michel so easily.
UGA is officially not a problem.
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ND destroyed a really good USC team.
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Swift will ease the pain of losing Chubb and Michel. Losing Smith will be the hardest one to replace.
Completely wrong.
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Fromm will be seasoned and o line will be pretty darn good.
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but I'd be shocked if you guys took Alabama or Clemson. Then, Georgia is ''officially'' a problem, because it means that Kirby can gameplan around the raw talent that he has. - Meeee.
So after watching the game, the 'scheme' point of the matter comes again. UGA was constantly in 3rd and long and was bailed out by Michel, who is head and shoulders better than any player on the team. Fromm had a decent game, but was wildly inaccurate due to pressure and showed me what I had suspected: He is an average quarterback playing in a great offense.
His receivers bailed him out almost all with his throws being off-target.
What also exposed itself is: Kirby is like Muschamp in the sense that he absolutely cannot adjust -- especially in big games.
In the second half of the NCG, Alabama scored 26 points with a freshman quarterback with their best receiver being a freshman and their best RB being a freshman.
It reminds me of Muschamp because the defense works against teams he absolutely out-classes talent wise, but collapses against mobile quarterbacks who can throw. I understand the game was close, but the fact is:
If Alabama had started Tua, the game would have been an absolute blowout.
Alabama had 46 total yards in the first half with zero points.
They came out and put up 26 with 325 yards. That defense is losing all of their best players, and that offense is not going to replace Michel so easily.
UGA is officially not a problem.
Posted on 1/9/18 at 1:00 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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UGA is officially not a problem.
Blind Homerism not to see the potential beast that Kirby is building. They are bringing studs to replace the studs that are leaving.
UGA 2018 class
Posted on 1/9/18 at 1:09 pm to BloodSweat&Beers
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Blind Homerism not to see the potential beast that Kirby is building. They are bringing studs to replace the studs that are leaving.
Muschamp had the best class (points wise) of all time and in year three went 4 - 8.
The point is that you have to actually develop that talent -- Fromm did not look developed against defenses that actually had teeth.
ND kept him to 55%, Auburn (1st time) kept him to 46.4% and Alabama kept him to 50%. He looked scared and was wildly inaccurate.
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6. Fromm did not play well enough to win the game. Fromm completed just 50% of his passes: 16-32-232 yds with 2 INT's and 1 TD. He was off target on most of his passes; Ridley bailed him out several times on passes that were behind him.
Directly from the Georgia board so you can't call me a blind Homer, unless they're also wrong.
Michel bailed them out of strikingly terrible playcalling on 3rd and long -- dive plays that resulted in first downs that pretty much only worked because the defense didn't expect them to be that stupid.
In the end, you're going to be more Georgia than even Georgia fans (as evidenced), which is cool, but I saw flashes of Muschamp throughout the entire game last night. I saw a team that tried to hold onto a two touchdown lead in a second half that got absolutely boatraced.
Georgia has always recruited well, and now they're losing all of their senior talent on defense along with some great juniors (maybe only one).
On offense Fromm against a decent defense looks bad and Swift only had 15 yards total and had 6 against Oklahoma.
When Georgia shows me that it can develop players, I will be ''scared'', but everything I've seen from Kirby has led me to believe that he cannot:
1. Gameplan. (This is huge.)
2. Develop.
In year two the only good players against decent talent were either transfers or upper classmen. Swift has 0 touchdowns against good defenses, Fromm is 3 - 3.
It's great to be a Florida Gator.
Posted on 1/9/18 at 1:42 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I'll have what he is having.
You make it sound like Kirby is Lyle at UT and Fromm is Franks.
Freshman in his first season. Dude looked very good and did not hurt his team all season long. That first half against Bama was very impressive. Completely outplayed Hurts.
ND was his first game and ND is good on defense. Threw the game winning TD.
Auburn is a great defense
Bama is Bama. They have a history of making QBs look horrible.
I get saying that Kirby needs to show what he can do long term but to write off UGA completely is ridiculous. They have the potential to challenge Saban.
You make it sound like Kirby is Lyle at UT and Fromm is Franks.
Freshman in his first season. Dude looked very good and did not hurt his team all season long. That first half against Bama was very impressive. Completely outplayed Hurts.
ND was his first game and ND is good on defense. Threw the game winning TD.
Auburn is a great defense
Bama is Bama. They have a history of making QBs look horrible.
I get saying that Kirby needs to show what he can do long term but to write off UGA completely is ridiculous. They have the potential to challenge Saban.
Posted on 1/9/18 at 2:39 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
1 great season with a bunch of upperclassmen and one great recruiting class doesn't insure future greatness.
Jury is still out on Kirby. Will Muschamp won 11 games his second year at UF under the same circumstances.
Ug is no Bama and we still own their asses.
Jury is still out on Kirby. Will Muschamp won 11 games his second year at UF under the same circumstances.
Ug is no Bama and we still own their asses.
Posted on 1/9/18 at 4:41 pm to BloodSweat&Beers
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You make it sound like Kirby is Lyle at UT and Fromm is Franks.
More like Muschamp, who you know, actually beat 5 ranked teams (at the end of the year) and went 5 - 2 in 2012. He had a loaded defensive class set up by his predecesor and had a great year.
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Freshman in his first season. Dude looked very good and did not hurt his team all season long. That first half against Bama was very impressive. Completely outplayed Hurts.
Hurts fricking sucks. Go look at what people are saying about him on Alabama's board. They've been calling for Tua for ages.
Oh, by the way, Tua outplayed Fromm and looked way better and more polished. He had one blemish the entire night and it was probably because of a coaching error since the receivers were blocking for a run while the line was blocking for a pass.
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ND was his first game and ND is good on defense. Threw the game winning TD.
Auburn is a great defense
Bama is Bama. They have a history of making QBs look horrible.
He has yet to have a game where he specifically had to win the game outside of maybe Missouri, but even then his running backs carried him.
I had been saying all year: Let's wait until the RBs are stopped and he has to throw and we saw it last night. 50% of his passes, 2 interceptions, off target all night. I'm not shitting on the kid, but he still has a lot of things to improve. He did well, but it's hard for anybody to do poorly when your backfield is that stacked.
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I get saying that Kirby needs to show what he can do long term but to write off UGA completely is ridiculous. They have the potential to challenge Saban.
Absolutely not writing off Kirby completely, but at this point he looks the Muschamp more than he does the Saban.
Much more. The gameplan solidified it last night. Why not run Michel who was averaging 7.1 yards? He didn't change his offensive gameplan and suddenly turtled, Alabama figured him out and he had no answer.
They then let a Freshman QB, RB and WR tear up their senior laden defense like it was tissue.
Next will determine Kirby's fate, and we could make a bet on if he ends up like Muschamp or Saban, but I love you and wouldn't want to take your money.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 2:09 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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UGA was constantly in 3rd and long and was bailed out by Michel, who is head and shoulders better than any player on the team.
I know, it sucks we just recruited the number 1 and number 5 running backs for 2018 and have D'Andre Swift on the roster. The drop off between Michel and any other back will be so huge we won't be able to recover. The same thing happened when Todd Gurley left.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 2:41 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
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I know, it sucks we just recruited the number 1 and number 5 running backs for 2018 and have D'Andre Swift on the roster. The drop off between Michel and any other back will be so huge we won't be able to recover. The same thing happened when Todd Gurley left.
Number 1 is legit. Cook is not as good as his brother. I would bet he transfers to FAU or some other in the next 2 years.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 2:46 pm to BloodSweat&Beers
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Cook is not as good as his brother. I would bet he transfers to FAU or some other in the next 2 years.
You might want to go watch and read the reports about the Under Armour game from this weekend against top talent. Cook scored 2 TD's and was elusive all week and could also be a stud WR. He's rated high on his own accord...not his brothers.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 7:01 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
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I know, it sucks we just recruited the number 1 and number 5 running backs for 2018 and have D'Andre Swift on the roster. The drop off between Michel and any other back will be so huge we won't be able to recover. The same thing happened when Todd Gurley left.
You guys really, really want to believe in that narrative but Kirby's scheming got completely exposed against Alabama. He ran the ball with Michel on third and forever and lucked out three times because the other team didn't think he was retarded enough to try it.
The same thing happened when Fournette left and Guice took over, right? No way that Georgia can have a lackluster year like Kirby's first after losing two five star senior running backs.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 8:23 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
LSU is a terrible comparison as they hired a shrimp boat captain posing as a football coach
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:43 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Next will determine Kirby's fate, and we could make a bet on if he ends up like Muschamp or Saban, but I love you and wouldn't want to take your money.
I’m willing to make a ban bet with you right now that Kirby beats Florida again next year.
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