re: UGA is officially a problem

The last 30 years doesnt mean anything. We're at a huge talent disadvantage. In fact I'd say we're closer to Mullens MSU teams talent wise than we are closer to UGA

If EJ balls out, we're back in it immediately.

I guess the only thing I can give at this moment because it's so early is that I have way more confidence in Mullen than I do Smart. If it comes to coaching capacity, of course, because I've seen Georgia's defense -- supposedly their strong suit, shite the bed multiple times this year and their offensive scheme fail miserably.

Georgia talked about how Oklahoma hadn't seen a front seven like theirs and Oklahoma proceeded to crush their senior-laden defense with 531 yards and 48 points. Alabama came out at half-time with a true freshman quarterback that had almost no big game experience and put up 325 yards of offense in one half.

Auburn put up 488 the first time around and what all this leads to me suspect is that he has a Muschamp like defense. This is, to say, that the defense has a ton of talent and experience but their scheme is very easy to figure out and exploit.

Those three teams and ND were the only real games that UGA had to play all year -- and they'll thump their chests over the rematch with Auburn but they're not even the SEC Champions this year since Alabama won (at least that's how I see it).

They got their defense torn up in spite of all the stars, experience and talent.

Even if you actually watch their scheme on offense during the Alabama game -- they were in 3rd and very long and only converted from some once in a lifetime effort from Michel.

We've definitely got some ground to make up talent wise, but I feel Mullen is the type of guy who can make it work.

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...just talkin shite about uga tj. think i made it pretty clear we're at a talent disadvantage. might try out those high school reading skills and stop browsing with a loaded gun all the time.

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I honestly think TJ secretly doesn't like Florida from time to time -- all we have from him on this board is him being really upset every time we talk shite about our rivals.

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I love UF.

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Debatable.

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Currently we're having trouble getting elite players to visit while FSU, UGA and even UT are hot on the trail right now and that's with a staff that has plenty of time in the SEC recruiting game.

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They got here in November, man, what were you expecting? We got two extremely high rated transfers at WR, our worst position on the team outside of QB. They're out visiting people right now and we have a whole host of guys coming on campus -- a lot of JUCO talent which is what could give us exactly the spark we've been needing.

Your problem is that you're so ready to be negative about Florida and so quick to defend other programs.

McElwain wins the East and you say ''no big deal, East was bad, who carse?'' Kirby has a freshman quarterback come out and shite on his defense's chest and you're like ''well I mean he's got no tape on Tua!!!!! How can he defend him if he has no tape on him!111!!''

We have more Enrollees than FSU has LOI's and Enrollees combined. You're so caught up in stars that you forget that we have a better ranked class than they do -- and a higher average.

Mac was the worst HC in UF history. Hands down. We went from having a roster with NFL talent to almost half that:

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how various programs ranked in terms of the Total number of 4* and 5* recruits signed during the 5 years from 2009-2013:

1. Alabama- 89
2. Texas- 81
3. Florida- 76
3. Ohio St.- 76
5. LSU- 74
6. USC- 70
7. Florida St.- 62
8. Georgia- 61
9. Michigan- 60
10. Oklahoma- 58
11. Auburn- 57
11. Notre Dame- 57
13. UCLA- 49
14. Tennessee- 44
15. Oregon- 43
16. Clemson- 42
17. Texas A&M- 41
18. Miami- 39
19. California- 36
20. S. Carolina- 35

Now here are the number of 4* and 5* kids signed by school during the 5 years from 2014-2018 (includes commitments in the current 2018 class not yet signed):

1. Alabama- 96
2. Ohio St.- 87
3. Georgia- 79
4. LSU- 75
5. Auburn- 74
6. USC- 69
6. Florida St.- 69
8. Texas- 62
9. Notre Dame- 61
10. Oklahoma- 59
11. Michigan- 58
12. Tennessee- 54
12. Clemson- 54
14. Penn St.- 50
15. Texas A&M- 49
16. UCLA- 46
16. Miami- 46
18. Florida- 41
19. Stanford- 36
20. Oregon- 35

If you compare the most recent 5-year period (2014-2018) to the previous 5-year period (2009-2013), these are the programs that have stepped up their game the most in terms of recruiting:

1. Georgia +18
1. Penn St.- +18
3. Auburn- +17
4. Clemson- +12
5. Ohio St.- +11
6. Tennessee- +10
7. Washington- +9
7. Kentucky- +9
9. Texas A&M- +8
9. TCU- +8

And here are the programs that have seen the greatest drop-off in incoming talent (Note: its not a good thing to be at the top):

1. Florida: -35
2. California: -27
3. Texas: -19
4. Nebraska: -13
5. Oregon: -8
6. Missouri: -7
7. Oklahoma St.: -6
7. Virginia Tech: -6
9. UCLA: -3

**Note: Alabama led the way with the most 4* and 5* recruits during both time periods. They actually signed 7 more during the most recent 5-year period compared to the previous 5-year period.

If you want to know why Florida is struggling these days, its because they don't have the talent. They're averaging 7 fewer 4* and 5* kids signing PER YEAR. Multiply that over 4 or 5 years and you have a team totally depleted of talent compared to how it used to be.

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Now we're touting transfers as part of classes? Man the spin is great. Mullen Will need top 5 classes just to catch up. You were just touting how they had 100+ years in the SEC. They shouldn't have a problem selling a top 5 SEC. Tennessee and fsu both hired coaches after us and are on fire on the recruiting trail. We're having problyems just trying to get our LB and DT targets just to visit. Are UT or Fsu having problems? No. That's after both had later hires. Mullen is a better seller than Mac so far. Btw they should burn that weight room rules board.

You don't seem to love UF. As for FSU...they are going to end up with a terrible overall star rating.

They also have far less experience, an Doug Nuss like OC, and only really three proven good hires. A lot of wait and see over there. Got rejected by every major coach besides Lock they went after. Crazy.

I agree with Mac being that bad.

FSU is not doing amazingly recruiting. Wtf are you smoking?

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Grab a napkin, homey. You just got served.

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We have to get these troll retards off the boards, man. This is not ''I just want to talk Gator football'' and even worse TJ just feeds into this with an argument that doesn't even make sense.

Muschamp took a championship level team and lost to an FCS in three years after several huge classes. It's not even close. He completely mismanaged the roster and left McElwain with two quarterbacks, one who tested positive for PEDs and never played again -- the other was Treon Harris who dominated Georgia several times in his career.

He didn't have enough offensive linemen to run practice, he had no real kicker and almost no depth on offense at any position.

McElwain stopped caring, but he won several games where he never should have (@LSU, Ole Miss). His recruiting was also doing much better -- he almost had to rebuild the entire team.

One coach took a championship team and lost to an FCS, the other took a team that lost to an FCS and won the East back to back.

Take your shite talking to the rant, homey, because you just got served.

Will muschamp was a mediocre HC, and terrible at hiring and recruiting offensive players.

Mac was terrible in every aspect of coaching. From hiring, coaching, adjustmentsand talent acquisition. He had worse recruiting classes, offenses and defenses than WM. He took a roster stacked with NFL talent and turned into loaded with 3*s and projects that will take Mullen two full classes if not more to try to fix. The only thing he won was a weak east. He took a roster with 76 blue chip recruits and turned into 41. That takes skill.

Mac is the worst HC I've ever seen coach at UF.

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HinesvilleThrill

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Again, why are you on the Gator board?

and a bigger question Why TF are you authorized to be on the Gator board?

Is anybody watching the gate?

Georgia suxs will always sux so go play with the other leg humpers on the UG board, please. Would someone in charge please get the non Gator fans off this board? If you are a Gator fan that agrees please upvote, if not I will STFU. TJ you are close to being included in this rant also!

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It's stupid that we have fans from other teams trolling us on our own board.

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I agree, the SEC Rant board is for discussions with other teams fans and trolling, the individual team boards should be for fans of that team.