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Posted on 9/11/22 at 12:47 am to dbuchanon
Posted on 9/11/22 at 12:47 am to dbuchanon
That sucked.
I thought we could lose this game (even though I mostly felt good about it) but did not expect that loss to occur because AR would totally implode.
I didn't like the game plan from the start, and I'd prefer to see Johnson or ETN as the 1/2 or 1a/1b RB's moving forward. Nay'quan just doesn't seem to have "it" any more.
Most of Mullen's offensive recruits who were actually highly rated are not doing much: (N. Wright, X Henderson, Zipperer, and countless others). Not only did he suck at recruiting but it seems like he sucked at developing too.
But that's that. Yes there is a mess left behind from the previous staff, but Napier was brought in to clean it up. AR was bad and the play calling and game plan was also bad. As much as I hated Mullen, I can't blame him for the game plan and playcalling tonight. That's on Napier. It's his second game, so a learning curve is to be expected. Thankfully we get a tune up game next week before going to Knoxville.
Go Gators.
I thought we could lose this game (even though I mostly felt good about it) but did not expect that loss to occur because AR would totally implode.
I didn't like the game plan from the start, and I'd prefer to see Johnson or ETN as the 1/2 or 1a/1b RB's moving forward. Nay'quan just doesn't seem to have "it" any more.
Most of Mullen's offensive recruits who were actually highly rated are not doing much: (N. Wright, X Henderson, Zipperer, and countless others). Not only did he suck at recruiting but it seems like he sucked at developing too.
But that's that. Yes there is a mess left behind from the previous staff, but Napier was brought in to clean it up. AR was bad and the play calling and game plan was also bad. As much as I hated Mullen, I can't blame him for the game plan and playcalling tonight. That's on Napier. It's his second game, so a learning curve is to be expected. Thankfully we get a tune up game next week before going to Knoxville.
Go Gators.
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Posted on 9/11/22 at 1:11 am to Partha
Its game 2. I cant really knock the game plan because theirs only so much adjusting you can do when your system isnt completely installed. That goes for the defense as well.
AR screwed the pooch, plain n simple. The passes he was missing were inexcusable.
Ppl need to stop making excuses with the Aw, hes just too pumped up ect. Youre a starting QB in the SEC, you must make the easy throws
AR screwed the pooch, plain n simple. The passes he was missing were inexcusable.
Ppl need to stop making excuses with the Aw, hes just too pumped up ect. Youre a starting QB in the SEC, you must make the easy throws
Posted on 9/11/22 at 1:40 am to dbuchanon
They mentioned it at the start of the game. He likes the comparisons to Cam Newton and Lamar Jackson… yadda yadda yadda.
But he tries to model his game after Aaron Rodgers and apparently, Rodgers likes to throw 90mph fastballs over the middle.
I genuinely wonder if he has the ability to put any kind of touch on the ball. Can he drop it in the corner of the end zone?
It’s been 2 games and he doesn’t even have any touchdown passes, yet. And we’re supposed to be in Knoxville in two weeks. I don’t expect to leave there with a win.
But he tries to model his game after Aaron Rodgers and apparently, Rodgers likes to throw 90mph fastballs over the middle.
I genuinely wonder if he has the ability to put any kind of touch on the ball. Can he drop it in the corner of the end zone?
It’s been 2 games and he doesn’t even have any touchdown passes, yet. And we’re supposed to be in Knoxville in two weeks. I don’t expect to leave there with a win.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 1:46 am to finchmeister08
Im wondering when Miller is healthy, does that shorten his leash?
Posted on 9/11/22 at 5:12 am to dbuchanon
I'm not a blame the ref type of guy. But for sure they made some mistakes tonight.
I don't think florida wins if the calls were made but for sure helped Kentucky.
The Trey Dean Roughing the passer call was an abomination. The late hit on Etienne on the kick off return that was not called. The Kentucky O-lineman hands to the face that wasn't called on there 55 yard touchdown pass.
Plus more. Will rewatch the game later today (if I can Stomach it) and give you more examples but those are the ones right off the top.
So the SEC Refs are definitely in mid season form already!!!
But I thought that the offensive game plan was terrible. All the way around and this is what gets me. 0 I mean ZERO adjustments at half time.
No misdirection at all like we ran against Utah Last week.
So there are alot of things for them too work on for sure. But the Defense played more then well enough to win this game!!!
I don't think florida wins if the calls were made but for sure helped Kentucky.
The Trey Dean Roughing the passer call was an abomination. The late hit on Etienne on the kick off return that was not called. The Kentucky O-lineman hands to the face that wasn't called on there 55 yard touchdown pass.
Plus more. Will rewatch the game later today (if I can Stomach it) and give you more examples but those are the ones right off the top.
So the SEC Refs are definitely in mid season form already!!!
But I thought that the offensive game plan was terrible. All the way around and this is what gets me. 0 I mean ZERO adjustments at half time.
No misdirection at all like we ran against Utah Last week.
So there are alot of things for them too work on for sure. But the Defense played more then well enough to win this game!!!
This post was edited on 9/11/22 at 7:26 am
Posted on 9/11/22 at 7:08 am to AlbinoGator
Well, all the weaknesses were exposed by a good Kentucky team. Unexperienced QB, new coaching staff, lack of quality depth on defense, no game breakers. Week 1 made me believe we could overcome these problems and still win a bunch of games but it was fools gold. Lots of work to do. That’s all I have for now. Go Gators!
Posted on 9/11/22 at 7:51 am to UFMatt
I don't even think this is a good KY team like their team last season.
As far as Richardson I don't know what the heck to think. Watching highlights of the game he looked like he was on the verge of tears almost after he came back in the game struggling after the pick 6.
As far as Richardson I don't know what the heck to think. Watching highlights of the game he looked like he was on the verge of tears almost after he came back in the game struggling after the pick 6.
This post was edited on 9/11/22 at 7:53 am
Posted on 9/11/22 at 7:57 am to dbuchanon
Hopefully we roll USF so Miller or someone can get some real game reps just in case things changed down the road.
This post was edited on 9/11/22 at 7:58 am
Posted on 9/11/22 at 8:15 am to Gator Fever
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Hopefully we roll USF so Miller or someone can get some real game reps just in case things changed down the road.
Yeah, I hope so too.
I actually like Miller a lot. I think he could be a decent game manager, maybe even really good with some time.
Not sure what to think about AR after yesterday.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 8:30 am to dbuchanon
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Its game 2. I cant really knock the game plan because theirs only so much adjusting you can do when your system isnt completely installed. That goes for the defense as well.
AR screwed the pooch, plain n simple. The passes he was missing were inexcusable.
Ppl need to stop making excuses with the Aw, hes just too pumped up ect. Youre a starting QB in the SEC, you must make the easy throws
I agree that AR screwed the pooch. Yeah it's a new staff with a new system, and we've had two tough tests to kick off the Napier Era. Hiccups are to be expected. I still thought the game plan didn't play to Richardson's strengths. Maybe that was by design to find out what he can, or can't, do in live game time.
Thankfully we have USF before going to Knoxville.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 9:08 am to Partha
Florida starting out the season with 2 straight ranked teams will only help ARs growth and development.
Not gonna bother addressing the Miller comment from another poster ITT... If you think Miller right now would be better for this team than AR.....
Not gonna bother addressing the Miller comment from another poster ITT... If you think Miller right now would be better for this team than AR.....
Posted on 9/11/22 at 9:13 am to boXerrumble
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Not gonna bother addressing the Miller comment from another poster ITT... If you think Miller right now would be better for this team than AR.....
I think some Miller talk is a bit of overreaction from a very bad outing from AR yesterday. It was a bit shocking to see him struggle so bad. I expected some struggles but that was something else. I also know of the good he's capable of, it's just right now, not sure what to think about AR, and will have concerns about which AR we'll see in gametime until he establishes more consistent play.
People who were comparing him to Cam have to remember that Cam had a whole year starting in a lower division before starting at Auburn. AR is learning each week. Thought that Mullen screwed that up big time last year, which should've been when AR would've been working out the issues in his game.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 9:14 am to Partha
Anyone else of the opinion that Napier knew we needed to run more but forced AR to keep throwing for his development?
Posted on 9/11/22 at 9:21 am to Gator5220
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Any one else of the opinion that Napier knew we needed to run more but forced AR to keep throwing for his development?
That thought has crossed my mind. Certainly hope that is the case.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 9:26 am to Partha
UK stacked the box in the first quarter but was laying off the WRs.
Once it became evident AR was off, they played press man coverage on all the WRs and mixed in some zone/man mixes in the 2nd half.
Once UK realized that UFs WRs couldn't get any separation at all, it was over.
Stoops basically played it perfectly.
Edit: Napier will have to talk to AR this week about using his legs. The threat of AR running will open things up, but for whatever reason, they didn't utilize it yesterday.
Tennessee is gonna play it the exact same way.
Granted Tennessee's LBs are nowhere near as good as UKs.
Once it became evident AR was off, they played press man coverage on all the WRs and mixed in some zone/man mixes in the 2nd half.
Once UK realized that UFs WRs couldn't get any separation at all, it was over.
Stoops basically played it perfectly.
Edit: Napier will have to talk to AR this week about using his legs. The threat of AR running will open things up, but for whatever reason, they didn't utilize it yesterday.
Tennessee is gonna play it the exact same way.
Granted Tennessee's LBs are nowhere near as good as UKs.
This post was edited on 9/11/22 at 9:29 am
Posted on 9/11/22 at 9:43 am to boXerrumble
We also have to remember too that this isn't the Kentucky program we beat 31 years in a row.
They were getting close to breaking the streak under Stoops, and broke it under Mullen.
It sucks losing to them, but they are a much better program than they were 5-8 years ago.
Got to get back to beating them regularly, but they are a top 15-20 team right now. Some perspective.
They were getting close to breaking the streak under Stoops, and broke it under Mullen.
It sucks losing to them, but they are a much better program than they were 5-8 years ago.
Got to get back to beating them regularly, but they are a top 15-20 team right now. Some perspective.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 10:18 am to Partha
Anthony Richardson was mentally weak last game plain and simple. Things weren’t going well and he folded. No leadership. No resilience.
That is really really bad. And Uf could lose a ton of games if Napier can’t get through to him. Obviously it surprised billy because the play calling reflected a coach with confidence in his qb and that confidence was repaid by a pic 6 that cost Uf the game.
That is really really bad. And Uf could lose a ton of games if Napier can’t get through to him. Obviously it surprised billy because the play calling reflected a coach with confidence in his qb and that confidence was repaid by a pic 6 that cost Uf the game.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 10:58 am to slayerxing
AR is gonna be just fine.
Y’all go ahead and jump off if you want to.
Y’all go ahead and jump off if you want to.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 11:19 am to boXerrumble
I hope you are right but I just reviewed the long highlight tapes of the Utah and KY games which had most of our passing plays and there literally is hardly anything on those tapes to suggest Richardson will be able to make things happen passing wise if his primary option isn't open. He maybe a few times did the obligatory look down the middle and then went to the primary target of the play called. I could only find one play out of both of those tapes where he completed a pass to someone that wasn't the primary target of the play called and it was the 2 point play where he had to juke someone and Fraziers was then standing uncovered in the end zone. Not going to lie and I hope Napier can work some magic here but in these 1st 2 games there is even less on tape showing an ability to be a good passer than there was with Emory Jones who couldn't get to a secondary receiver worth a damn either when the primary was covered good.
This post was edited on 9/11/22 at 11:22 am
Posted on 9/11/22 at 12:28 pm to boXerrumble
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Y’all go ahead and jump off if you want to.
I have been completely off the bandwagon since he threw the pick 6. He can't handle it mentally imo. Hope I am wrong, but you really don't see any great players have games this bad.
That said, I don't like our play calling very much either. We do way too much stuff around the LOS and throw too many passed behind the LOS.
It is the 2nd game and I really like Napier, so here's hoping they can get it figured out somehow. Go Gators!
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