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Posted on 9/11/22 at 1:24 pm to Gator5220
Years of substandard recruiting by Mac n Mullen won’t be fixed it 2 games.
Areas of the team improved since game 1, as long as I see a steady arch in our performance I’m happy.
UK was beatable, the team played well enough to do that. Came down to 2 very bad throws that were the difference.
I like AR, I do. But he’s gotta man up n play better in situations like lastnight.
40% won’t cut it
Areas of the team improved since game 1, as long as I see a steady arch in our performance I’m happy.
UK was beatable, the team played well enough to do that. Came down to 2 very bad throws that were the difference.
I like AR, I do. But he’s gotta man up n play better in situations like lastnight.
40% won’t cut it
Posted on 9/11/22 at 2:12 pm to bigDgator
Do you think that he would have finished the game playing for Spurrier? Whether the back up was better or not, he would have had a shot.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 2:25 pm to UFMatt
I thought this myself. What would the OBC have done?
AR is last in the SEC in Comp % and Yards Per. Ouch!!
He has to get better or we gotta make a change.
Rewatching the game now. He was off bad lastnight. Even the passes caught were by WRs diving n catching the ball behind them where they were open for an easy catch on the run
AR is last in the SEC in Comp % and Yards Per. Ouch!!
He has to get better or we gotta make a change.
Rewatching the game now. He was off bad lastnight. Even the passes caught were by WRs diving n catching the ball behind them where they were open for an easy catch on the run
This post was edited on 9/11/22 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 9/11/22 at 9:26 pm to dbuchanon
Not sure what the deal was last night. Maybe it was an off night, or maybe some things got exposed. Either way, you can’t throw a pick 6 and another INT inside your own 20 and expect to win very often.
Kentucky won by the 10 points we gave them. As hard as it was to rewatch the game, I’m still at the conclusion that we beat ourselves. Credit to Kentucky for fighting the whole game. They seemed to be more mentally tough than we were. Their offense was nothing special and we had multiple chances to come back and take the game back over. It was reminiscent of a Mullen game where we out gained them in yards and still lost the game. There is a lot to fix between now and the Tennessee game. It’s going to be a rollercoaster of a season, but I think we all assumed that. Can’t expect a 1st year coach to completely turn it all around. It’s a rebuild - plain and simple. As long as we progress and get better the further into the season we get, there’s no reason to give up on AR or the rest of this team.
This team has the talent to win games now, it’s just going to come down to execution. On a positive note, Brenton Cox was throwing their RT around like a rag doll. That’s a bad man
Kentucky won by the 10 points we gave them. As hard as it was to rewatch the game, I’m still at the conclusion that we beat ourselves. Credit to Kentucky for fighting the whole game. They seemed to be more mentally tough than we were. Their offense was nothing special and we had multiple chances to come back and take the game back over. It was reminiscent of a Mullen game where we out gained them in yards and still lost the game. There is a lot to fix between now and the Tennessee game. It’s going to be a rollercoaster of a season, but I think we all assumed that. Can’t expect a 1st year coach to completely turn it all around. It’s a rebuild - plain and simple. As long as we progress and get better the further into the season we get, there’s no reason to give up on AR or the rest of this team.
This team has the talent to win games now, it’s just going to come down to execution. On a positive note, Brenton Cox was throwing their RT around like a rag doll. That’s a bad man
Posted on 9/11/22 at 9:57 pm to NWA_Gator
Like I said before, the team played well enough to win, the QB literally handed them the game.
Other than passing we outgained them in total yards and rushing ypc. Their QB only hit 54% of his passes, and most of his yards came on the 1 deep ball where the WR outfought our DB who was there for the ball in the EZ.
I liked what I saw from some of the young guys.
Boone at DE is gonna be good imo, his sack where he nearly murdered their QB was a thing of beauty.
Shemar had 7 tackles and a QB hurry.
I thought Barber at RT held his own pretty good when Tarquin went out.
Other than passing we outgained them in total yards and rushing ypc. Their QB only hit 54% of his passes, and most of his yards came on the 1 deep ball where the WR outfought our DB who was there for the ball in the EZ.
I liked what I saw from some of the young guys.
Boone at DE is gonna be good imo, his sack where he nearly murdered their QB was a thing of beauty.
Shemar had 7 tackles and a QB hurry.
I thought Barber at RT held his own pretty good when Tarquin went out.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 10:49 pm to NWA_Gator
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It was reminiscent of a Mullen game where we out gained them in yards and still lost the game.
The only reason we had more yds than them is because the bad punt snap that went for a safety, otherwise, they would’ve had more yards than us.
ETA: that was a loss of 39 yds btw.
This post was edited on 9/11/22 at 10:52 pm
Posted on 9/11/22 at 11:11 pm to finchmeister08
This was nothing like a Mullen game.
This defense got off the field on 3rd down.
This defense got off the field on 3rd down.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 1:25 am to dbuchanon
Posted on 9/12/22 at 7:02 am to dbuchanon
So, I'm not one to criticize coaches but I would like the answer to 2 questions about Saturday.
1) It was obvious that Richardson was having a bad night. Did you consider benching him and if not, why?
HBC would have had him on the bench before the end of the first half. The backups are there for a reason.
2) With 3 timeouts left why did you go for fourth down twice basically giving Kentucky a field goal to put the game out of reach? He got away with this the first time because UK missed the field goal but the second put the game away.
Napier is a good coach and will get better but questions need to be asked just so he knows that people are paying attention. Go Gators.
1) It was obvious that Richardson was having a bad night. Did you consider benching him and if not, why?
HBC would have had him on the bench before the end of the first half. The backups are there for a reason.
2) With 3 timeouts left why did you go for fourth down twice basically giving Kentucky a field goal to put the game out of reach? He got away with this the first time because UK missed the field goal but the second put the game away.
Napier is a good coach and will get better but questions need to be asked just so he knows that people are paying attention. Go Gators.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:02 am to UFMatt
If u bench AR you got nobody behind him.. Wouldnt been a wise decision in my opinion. Not to mention what it would probably done to his mindset..
Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:40 am to shaneomac1
Spurrier benched Danny one game because he looked bad in warmups and said that he couldn't hold onto the wet ball because his hands were too small. LOL
The backups are there for a reason, if they are not ready when needed, that is on the coaches. What would happen, heaven forbid that he gets hurt?
He needed to be taken out, if only for a series or 2, IMO. It was obvious that he was shaken, confused or just having a bad day. Not questioning that he is our QB1 but anyone playing that poorly needs some bench time to think about it. Maybe Coach has a good reason, I think the question should be asked.
The backups are there for a reason, if they are not ready when needed, that is on the coaches. What would happen, heaven forbid that he gets hurt?
He needed to be taken out, if only for a series or 2, IMO. It was obvious that he was shaken, confused or just having a bad day. Not questioning that he is our QB1 but anyone playing that poorly needs some bench time to think about it. Maybe Coach has a good reason, I think the question should be asked.
This post was edited on 9/12/22 at 8:42 am
Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:55 am to shaneomac1
After having a couple of days to stew on it I've come to terms with some things but others still kind of bug me. Definitely don't like going for it on 4th late in the game like we did, I like being aggressive but that just seemed like Napier had given up.
Not sure how I feel about the idea of pulling AR either. I think he's a great athlete, obviously, but needs a lot of work in the passing game, reads, touch on the ball, etc. If teams put a spy on him every game I think we're in trouble.
Not sure how I feel about the idea of pulling AR either. I think he's a great athlete, obviously, but needs a lot of work in the passing game, reads, touch on the ball, etc. If teams put a spy on him every game I think we're in trouble.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:09 am to UFMatt
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2) With 3 timeouts left why did you go for fourth down twice basically giving Kentucky a field goal to put the game out of reach? He got away with this the first time because UK missed the field goal but the second put the game away.
i have no problem with this. there comes a time when you can only ask your defense for help before you try something different.
the defense answered the call every single time that night. if anthony and the offense couldn't get it going on those two drives with the 4th down attempt, they weren't going to get it done at all in my opinion.
napier put the game on anthony and the offense's shoulders at that point. the defense did all they could do.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:50 am to finchmeister08
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i have no problem with this. there comes a time when you can only ask your defense for help before you try something different
I would agree if giving up a field goal would not have put the game out of reach. Say we were up 4 or less. Giving the ball already in field goal range basically ended our chances unless they missed the field goal. Got away with it the first time but not the second. IMO opinion should have punted and used the time outs. Either way a first down would have won them the game, just by 7 instead of by 10, but a stop would have given us one more chance only trailing by 7.
I won't say anymore about this, I like Napier a lot and think he is the right hire but this just didn't make sense to me.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:23 am to UFMatt
matt at some point, you just have to go for it. anthony and the offense had been stopped the entire half. i don't know if you missed it, but we didn't score at all in the second half.
i would've have rather taken the chance of converting the 4th down instead of relying on the defense to not give up a first down. i want the ball in my hands where i'm in control. not the other team.
i've been thinking about this as well and it doesn't even relate to anything florida football.
down 7 and you score a touchdown with 0:00 left in the fourth. do you kick the PAT for the tie and play for OT or do you convert the 2-pts?
You're already at the 3 yd line with one play to win or lose. do you really want to give the other team a chance to win with the ball in their hands?
sometimes the most popular opinion choice isn't the "right" choice.
i would've have rather taken the chance of converting the 4th down instead of relying on the defense to not give up a first down. i want the ball in my hands where i'm in control. not the other team.
i've been thinking about this as well and it doesn't even relate to anything florida football.
down 7 and you score a touchdown with 0:00 left in the fourth. do you kick the PAT for the tie and play for OT or do you convert the 2-pts?
You're already at the 3 yd line with one play to win or lose. do you really want to give the other team a chance to win with the ball in their hands?
sometimes the most popular opinion choice isn't the "right" choice.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:34 am to finchmeister08
I think asking, "What would Spurrier have done?" is fun but ultimately letting nostalgia make a frustrating night even more frustrating. Spurrier was one in a million.
Most coaches who have won Nattys don't bench their quarterbacks willy-nilly. And most coaches who do don't win Nattys.
That's not to say you don't eventually start #2 if #1 clearly isn't cutting it. I'm not defending playing Franks over Trask when Trask was healthy.
But Spurrier is an outlier. He did a lot of things that only he could make work for whatever reason. I wouldn't expect to ever see another successful coach roll through QBs like toilet paper and draw plays up in the dust and accomplish what Spurs did.
Most coaches who have won Nattys don't bench their quarterbacks willy-nilly. And most coaches who do don't win Nattys.
That's not to say you don't eventually start #2 if #1 clearly isn't cutting it. I'm not defending playing Franks over Trask when Trask was healthy.
But Spurrier is an outlier. He did a lot of things that only he could make work for whatever reason. I wouldn't expect to ever see another successful coach roll through QBs like toilet paper and draw plays up in the dust and accomplish what Spurs did.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 11:21 am to finchmeister08
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anthony and the offense had been stopped the entire half. i don't know if you missed it, but we didn't score at all in the second half.
I was there so I didn't miss it. Sadly it was obvious that we were not going to win this game with Richardson. He was out of it, which led to my other question for Coach, Why was he still in the game? Don't get me wrong, I know he is QB1 but it wasn't his night and that wasn't going to change.
To answer your other question, the way the rules are now for overtime, I would always go for 2 and the win if I had the ball second and the other team kicked the extra point.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 11:27 am to UFMatt
Again, I don't want to come off as negative. My history has shown that I am the biggest homer on the board and support coaches and players more than most. I just thought those were 2 legitimate questions to ask the coach.
He may have great answer for both, but you don't why unless you ask. Go Gators.
He may have great answer for both, but you don't why unless you ask. Go Gators.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 12:52 pm to UFMatt
Etienne and Johnson averaged 6.8 ypc. Johnson's last carry was in the 3rd quarter. Etienne with about 8 mins left in the 4th.
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