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Feleipe Franks is going to be a Top 10 NFL Draft Pick
Posted on 9/22/18 at 7:49 am
Posted on 9/22/18 at 7:49 am
No, seriously.
An NFL team is going to fall in love with him just like they did Josh Allen, and he will be a top draft pick. The highest quarterback we’ve had taken since Rex Grossman.
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Josh Allen: 6’6 235 lb
Feleipe Franks: 6’6 240 lb
Josh Allen: threw ball at combine 75 yards
Feleipe Franks: has game film throwing ball 75 yards
Josh Allen: not a winner in college
Feleipe Franks: not a winner (to this point) in college
But here is where the stats get a little eerie:
Josh Allen: career 56% completion percentage, 5000 career passing yards (only 1800 his last year at Wyoming), 44 touchdowns and 21 INT (16 and 6 his last year at Wyoming)
Feleipe Franks: career 54% completion percentage, 2000 career passing yards, 18 touchdowns and 10 INT.
And we all know Franks has progressed and will likely continue to progress under Mullen’s tutelage. Guys, Josh Allen and Feleipe Franks have very similar numbers, very similar strengths, very similar weaknesses, and the exact same height and weight, plus Franks is from a big time college. Josh Allen was the #7 overall pick in the draft. Franks will also be a top 10 pick when he leaves to go to the NFL
An NFL team is going to fall in love with him just like they did Josh Allen, and he will be a top draft pick. The highest quarterback we’ve had taken since Rex Grossman.
Follow me here:
Josh Allen: 6’6 235 lb
Feleipe Franks: 6’6 240 lb
Josh Allen: threw ball at combine 75 yards
Feleipe Franks: has game film throwing ball 75 yards
Josh Allen: not a winner in college
Feleipe Franks: not a winner (to this point) in college
But here is where the stats get a little eerie:
Josh Allen: career 56% completion percentage, 5000 career passing yards (only 1800 his last year at Wyoming), 44 touchdowns and 21 INT (16 and 6 his last year at Wyoming)
Feleipe Franks: career 54% completion percentage, 2000 career passing yards, 18 touchdowns and 10 INT.
And we all know Franks has progressed and will likely continue to progress under Mullen’s tutelage. Guys, Josh Allen and Feleipe Franks have very similar numbers, very similar strengths, very similar weaknesses, and the exact same height and weight, plus Franks is from a big time college. Josh Allen was the #7 overall pick in the draft. Franks will also be a top 10 pick when he leaves to go to the NFL
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Posted on 9/22/18 at 10:02 am to atlgator
Josh Allen scored a 37 on the wonderlic.
Franks will score a 3.
He’s too dumb to read defenses, he won’t make it in the NFL except for maybe the practice squad. He may make a great career in the CFL being a backup, or join the xfl and find a niche by being a badass.
Franks will score a 3.
He’s too dumb to read defenses, he won’t make it in the NFL except for maybe the practice squad. He may make a great career in the CFL being a backup, or join the xfl and find a niche by being a badass.
Posted on 9/22/18 at 10:13 am to ForeverGator
I don’t think he’ll be a great NFL quarterback.
I do think he’ll get drafted high by a team that falls in love with his measurables.
I do think he’ll get drafted high by a team that falls in love with his measurables.
Posted on 9/22/18 at 10:51 am to atlgator
He will I agree. Not top ten though. End of day he has what you can't teach. Put him under Bill and let Brady mold him..bet he becomes good.
Also the kid isn't an idiot. Y'all act like he is just dumb as rocks. He speaks well. He is just new to learning how to play the hardest position in sports. Takes time. If by end of year he is still really really bad..next year Jones should start
Also the kid isn't an idiot. Y'all act like he is just dumb as rocks. He speaks well. He is just new to learning how to play the hardest position in sports. Takes time. If by end of year he is still really really bad..next year Jones should start
Posted on 9/22/18 at 11:03 am to Gatorbait2008
I just posted under the Ben Troup crap that I felt even last year that he would eventually develop into a very high draft pick. The draft is littered with draft choices of tall large QBs who teams feel they can develop...you don't find QBs who are 6'6" growing on trees.
The thing to keep in mind is that he is still growing into his body and the difference between 2017 and now is very noticeable...he is now 240 and he can put on another 10 lbs of muscle with no problem with his size. Forever is the one who is dumb as a bag of rocks. Does he KNOW Franks personally? I doubt it.
He is an elite QB now? No. But he will develop each game and has a great coach to learn from...not just Xs + Os but how to relax and have fun. QBs need to be 110% confident. Franks has earned the right to have a chip on his shoulder with all the shite thrown at him from "fans" who don't know squat, but I don't see him display it but you know inside of him that he wants to prove em wrong and he will with time. Im sick n tired of the bashing, he is our QB, get used to it and support the team or get out of the way.
The thing to keep in mind is that he is still growing into his body and the difference between 2017 and now is very noticeable...he is now 240 and he can put on another 10 lbs of muscle with no problem with his size. Forever is the one who is dumb as a bag of rocks. Does he KNOW Franks personally? I doubt it.
He is an elite QB now? No. But he will develop each game and has a great coach to learn from...not just Xs + Os but how to relax and have fun. QBs need to be 110% confident. Franks has earned the right to have a chip on his shoulder with all the shite thrown at him from "fans" who don't know squat, but I don't see him display it but you know inside of him that he wants to prove em wrong and he will with time. Im sick n tired of the bashing, he is our QB, get used to it and support the team or get out of the way.
Posted on 9/22/18 at 12:38 pm to atlgator
Maybe in your NCAA game, but not in real life.
He can barely handle the speed of an SEC game, he's not going to suddenly overcome that even in two years. I'm not really certain processing speed can be completely overhauled from a player starting at zero.
He can barely handle the speed of an SEC game, he's not going to suddenly overcome that even in two years. I'm not really certain processing speed can be completely overhauled from a player starting at zero.
Posted on 9/22/18 at 12:59 pm to atlgator
He has the raw talent the NFL would like but he needs to improve a lot to get drafted high . We new he was raw when he commuted here and the last showed they could coach up anybody. So this is Franks first real year with a coaching staff coaching him up . He needs to get bigger and his feet need to get a little s quicker .
His stats this year are surprisingly good . He is 2nd in TD passes and 7th in passing yards and QBR .
His stats this year are surprisingly good . He is 2nd in TD passes and 7th in passing yards and QBR .
Posted on 9/22/18 at 4:12 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Actually that is coachable...he is already progressing reads better. Let the process work.
Posted on 9/22/18 at 4:30 pm to Gatorbait2008
Processing time? Reading defenses? Franks started at a negative number before this year. Even if he gets to 20% this year, 20% next year and another 20 in his last year of "understanding the QB job" he's still at 60%.
I don't think he's at 20% this year, and in fact, we have to see what he does against FBS teams to see if he hasn't regressed. Kentucky was one of the worst games he's had at Florida, and it just doesn't feel that bad because all of his potential interceptions weren't actually caught aside from one.
I don't think he's at 20% this year, and in fact, we have to see what he does against FBS teams to see if he hasn't regressed. Kentucky was one of the worst games he's had at Florida, and it just doesn't feel that bad because all of his potential interceptions weren't actually caught aside from one.
Posted on 9/22/18 at 4:36 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Kentucky was worse last year than this year..
He didn't progress reads at any point last year. He literally went first target. He is three games in a whole new system. It's not overnight. The kid has had bad or no coaching his entire football career. He needs to be taught...everything. He is running well for a bigger guy which is what Mullen likes anyways. He is making smart zone reads in the run which no one mentions as progress. He has to get quicker with his decision making, and have confidence to throw the ball. QB is very mental. Mentality can be built. He's been a vocal leader according to all source but who knows if true or not to be fair. Mullen thinks he has the bright future. So let's see it by years end. This year is a growing year, despite you kind of being delusional about that fact. If his growth isn't enough by years end. Well there's a five star sitting behind him to train up this off-season and a good staff to do it.
No QB looked good with Mac nor Muschamps besides Grier. Coaching has been truly awful. Now we know we have a competent staff when it comes to QBs. Just let them do it. Look at Nebraska and UCLa. Look at FSU. New coaching brings ugly first years..just accept reality. This is a year to install and grow into a system. Stop viewing it as we should be competing for a title. Will make your life much easier.
He didn't progress reads at any point last year. He literally went first target. He is three games in a whole new system. It's not overnight. The kid has had bad or no coaching his entire football career. He needs to be taught...everything. He is running well for a bigger guy which is what Mullen likes anyways. He is making smart zone reads in the run which no one mentions as progress. He has to get quicker with his decision making, and have confidence to throw the ball. QB is very mental. Mentality can be built. He's been a vocal leader according to all source but who knows if true or not to be fair. Mullen thinks he has the bright future. So let's see it by years end. This year is a growing year, despite you kind of being delusional about that fact. If his growth isn't enough by years end. Well there's a five star sitting behind him to train up this off-season and a good staff to do it.
No QB looked good with Mac nor Muschamps besides Grier. Coaching has been truly awful. Now we know we have a competent staff when it comes to QBs. Just let them do it. Look at Nebraska and UCLa. Look at FSU. New coaching brings ugly first years..just accept reality. This is a year to install and grow into a system. Stop viewing it as we should be competing for a title. Will make your life much easier.
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Posted on 9/22/18 at 4:45 pm to Gatorbait2008
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he kid has had bad or no coaching his entire football career. He needs to be taught...everything
I don't know why you guys insist that this is a good idea. It doesn't help your argument, it only makes it seem like we're stupid for wasting our time trying to teach a terrible Quarterback to be mediocre.
Posted on 9/23/18 at 8:36 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
3 touchdown passes and a rushing touchdown on Rocky Top
Not a bad day in Franks progression
Not a bad day in Franks progression
Posted on 9/23/18 at 9:02 am to Gatorbait2008
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Also the kid isn't an idiot.
This. He's had months of "Isnt that neat?" instead of actual coaching from his last HC that has regressed him.
You guys must have missed the shot last night of the QBs Mullen has coached? Each dramatically improved from year 1 on. Franks has size and a howitzer on his shoulder, he will be drafted in the first 2-3 rounds imo. Subject to change next year if he improves like the others under Mullen.
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Posted on 9/23/18 at 9:16 am to atlgator
I love how after near 10 years of sideways passing games and DBs squatting on underneath routes, blowing up undersized receivers - fans have the absolute gall to bitch about a vertical passing game because deep shots have a lower completion %.
Have we thrown a single bubble screen all year? Somebody email Mullen to throw 10 a game - we might lose by 30, but Franks can complete 65% of his passes.
Have we thrown a single bubble screen all year? Somebody email Mullen to throw 10 a game - we might lose by 30, but Franks can complete 65% of his passes.
Posted on 9/23/18 at 9:23 am to Muthsera
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I love how after near 10 years of sideways passing games and DBs squatting on underneath routes, blowing up undersized receivers - fans have the absolute gall to bitch about a vertical passing game because deep shots have a lower completion %.
Have we thrown a single bubble screen all year? Somebody email Mullen to throw 10 a game - we might lose by 30, but Franks can complete 65% of his passes.
Good God, ALL this!
If we threw Bubbles every 5 passes ppl would say "Yeah he has 70% accuracy but its all bubbles. Smh.
Funny part to me is, the same ppl shite talkin Franks were riding joe Burrows penis last week.
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Posted on 9/23/18 at 9:26 am to Muthsera
I actually wish they would throw 2 or 3 of those to Toney a game.
But I get what you mean.
Also - and this is just one more reason why I'm willing to trust mullen on franks...
Dak Prescott Sophomore Year
58% completions, 10 TD, 7 INT, 176.4 yards per game
Dak Prescott Junior Year
62% completions, 27 TD, 11 INT, 265.3 yards per game
Mullen knows how to develop QBs.
I could post the same improvement year 1 - year 2 on Tyler Russel as well, but I'm too lazy.
But I get what you mean.
Also - and this is just one more reason why I'm willing to trust mullen on franks...
Dak Prescott Sophomore Year
58% completions, 10 TD, 7 INT, 176.4 yards per game
Dak Prescott Junior Year
62% completions, 27 TD, 11 INT, 265.3 yards per game
Mullen knows how to develop QBs.
I could post the same improvement year 1 - year 2 on Tyler Russel as well, but I'm too lazy.
Posted on 9/23/18 at 9:44 am to atlgator
Nah his current career trajectory will have him going 4th-6th. Allen benefitted from going to a small program and not having all of his flaws so publicly on display.
Posted on 9/23/18 at 2:23 pm to Muthsera
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I love how after near 10 years of sideways passing games and DBs squatting on underneath routes, blowing up undersized receivers - fans have the absolute gall to bitch about a vertical passing game because deep shots have a lower completion %.
Completing less than ten passes a game two weeks in a row is concerning.
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Have we thrown a single bubble screen all year?
Literally the first offensive play of the season.
First down (ten yards)
Literally Franks' first touchdown pass was a bubble screen.
I think a huge problem with most of the Franks/Offense support is that it's decided before the debate -- you support it and don't question it at all, which is fine. But to say that we haven't had successful bubble screens (which are extremely useful for opening up the verticle passing lanes) is kind of silly.
Offense is about balance and keeping the defense guessing, no one is afraid of Franks throwing the ball downfield except maybe Tennessee. No one is afraid of him running the ball except maybe Texas A&M.
When people neither fear your passing or rushing threats, it becomes very easy to keep the Quarterback pretty quiet in the game. Two games in a row of less than ten completions is a sign of substandard Quarterbacking.
Posted on 9/23/18 at 2:30 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Completing less than ten passes a game two weeks in a row is concerning.
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Threw less than 18 passes in both, yet both were 40 point explosions.. Dude!
Posted on 9/23/18 at 2:45 pm to dbuchanon
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Threw less than 18 passes in both, yet both were 40 point explosions.. Dude!
i see your point, but come on. we will have a game where we are not so fortunate on defense with turnovers or special teams with blocked kicks and return touchdowns.
franks will have to step up and prove that he has what it takes to drive down the team down the field for points. preferably touchdowns. he hasn't done that since the 99 yard drive against kentucky.
the 2 td passes he threw last night were during garbage time and the game was well in hand. do you think he has what it takes when we're down 3 points to georgia with 30 secs left on the clock and we're inside our own 20 yard line? can you confidently say he has the skill and knowledge to get us in field goal range?
that's the whole point against franks right now. he hasn't shown us he can do it yet when the game is on the line.
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