re: Feleipe Franks is going to be a Top 10 NFL Draft Pick

Here, let me help you:

Tennessee is bad.

Franks scored 4 touchdowns because he started in enemy territory more often than he didn't.

Do you know how many drives he actually sustained with good play?

0 drives.

First Touchdown: 21 yards.
Second Touchdown: 7 yards.
Third Touchdown: 65 (this was actually Franks' best pass ever)
Field Goal: 8 plays, 65 yards. Want to guess Franks' passing stats? 0/3. He had a good run, but it definitely killed the drive with his passing.
Fourth Touchdown: 21 yards.

We then had 3 straight 3 and outs. Sacked and incomplete on the first. 0/2 on the second. Franks underthrows his third down. ENds three drives 1/4.

The last touchdown he scored Tennessee was out of the game.

We had 3 drives start inside their 21, multiple more at midfield. This idea that he had an amazing game has got to stop, he had an average game, and was the sole cause we had several three and outs and other sustained drives died.

Watch what happens when we can't drive against a team that doesn't turn it over like this.

Straws has a mental problem and needs help. He cant stand to be wrong and he predicted Trask all summer as the starter and that's why he is bashing Franks and looks to discredit him every chance he can. That's an illness.

Its a broken record Straws...why don't you talk about other subjects?

So much for my calls for a truce. Hide the women and children, it's gonna get ugly in here!!!

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ust wait until Franks as a really bad game lol.

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No...just wait til we lose a game and according to Straws the loss will be 110% the fault of Franks...with a pipe in from Box. There are eleven men on the field and each of them have to play hard and smart....but...but it will be Franks fault that the other team ran back a fumble for TD and a kickoff for another score...that damn Franks is braindead I tell you!

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47% is a terrible stat line. Two straight games with less than 10 completions is a terrible stat line. His reason for having 12 touchdowns is because of an FCS and the defense giving him the ball, regularly, on the opposing side of the field.

Why would I say Fromm is average because his team does really well around him but sit here and bullshite about Franks??

Look at Fromm's average completion rate.

So red zone offense isn't important? Tell that to the Falcons.

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It's very important, that's why when I see us go three and out and kick two field goals in the CSU game when we start on our opposing 11 and 29 yard line.

We have two yards on those two drives. There are countless other examples, but you don't want to listen -- in reality, you don't even want a dialogue.

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That was bad. He improved and corrected it by scoring touchdowns in the red zone all but one time against Tennessee. I think that’s the frustration we’re all having. We all know Franks isn’t perfect. We all know he’s missed some throws and hasn’t taken advantage of every single opportunity. But he has DEFINITELY improved. Even if it’s not in completion percentage, he has improved in playmaking ability, he has improved in managing the offense, he has improved into a competent, average to above average SEC QB in four games into the season. That’s more than any of us thought he could be this year. It’s been an incredible coaching job by Mullen and an incredible job by Franks. Give the credit where it’s due.

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That was bad. He improved and corrected it by scoring touchdowns in the red zone all but one time against Tennessee.

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Yeah, but let's think about this:

Tennessee isn't a very good team, nor was CSU. He has done good vs. bad teams, and did terrible vs. the one good team we played. MSST, UGA and LSU should be interesting.

To Debose: Trust me, I love my team, but watching our offense go three and out half of the game is really painful.

People talking about Franks in the same breath as Manziel, Tebow, Tagovailoa and Dak Prescott are just setting themselves up for huge disappointment.

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The point is he couldn’t do it against ANYBODY last year. Good or bad. UAB or UGA. Nobody.

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He went 15 - 30 vs. UAB last year with two touchdowns.

Take away the last touchdown against Tennessee's defense that gave up and he's 8 - 16 with two touchdowns.

It's literally the same thing.

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Come on. Nobody is doing this. The numbers may be comparable, but he’s not there right now. One day maybe, but not yet.

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NOBODY? Dude, Florida fans are posting that he'll be a Top 10 Draft Pick and he doesn't even have a better completion rate than he did last year.

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It does feel like you’re wanting him to suck against MSU, LSU, and UGA so you can be right though. I’m not saying you’re not a fan, but it sounds like you’re rooting against Franks and that’s so weird for you

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This is what pisses me the frick off about this entire conversation, and I love you but:

I have evidence. ABOUND. It's not like I haven't done my homework, it's not like I didn't predict things, it's not like I haven't backed up everything I said. This isn't out of left field. I've posted pictures, statistics, GAMEPLANS FOR BEATING HIM THAT WERE ENACTED BY KENTUCKY. I don't like him as a Quarterback and I have a lot of evidence to back it up. I hope to God he comes out and crushes these teams because if he does we'll be unstoppable.

I've even said very complimenting things of him, especially his short game. My problem, ultimately, is that he doesn't want to be that Quarterback. He wants to be the Quarterback who hurdles over his opponents and throw dimes and he's not even close to being that guy.

He isn't embracing his strengths, and while it hasn't hindered us since the Kentucky game, it will hinder us vs. teams where he has to win to throw.

This is the same thing in 2012. It's only a matter of time before we get exposed, and it has nothing to do with me rooting against him, hating him, or thinking he's bad. I like the QB position and go over the film, that's it. It's the same reason I criticize Fromm.

Here, man, I love you and this is all I want to know from you and the rest of the board, just so we can put this to rest:

Would you have the same opinion if he was at Florida State? Would you be worried about him, or telling us that there's a great Quarterback growing at Florida State?

I get that some people have measureables that can be looked at in the same light, but it's because he's usually missing a key part to those other players.

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No it’s not. We have a coach that’s proven able to coach quarterbacks. This is very different from that situation.

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We can agree on this, my contention has always been that we shouldn't reinvent the wheel with a Quarterback. I don't think Franks in his senior year will be able to beat out Emory Jones in his Junior year.

Heck, it'll be a huge battle next year. So for me, I feel like we're just wasting our time -- NOT that he can eventually be good.